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It Would be realistic if Punisher was a hired employee of some government agency hes not he kills people on his own. So again why aren't the cops after Punisher like they are Batman who doesn't kill (Unrealistic)..

Batman still has some belief in legit Law & Order Punisher doesn't. Frank was a grown man and already a killer when his family died..

Batman was a kid he vowed never to kill so no other kid would go thru what he did.

Fact that Batman is officially wanted would be why he wouldn't be allow to build a prison.
 
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Batman was killed before...[/quote]

No, he was sent back to the past. Unless you are talking about earth 2 Batman. I'm not counting the times where he died and was brought back to life in the same book
 
nujerz84;4176282 said:
It Would be realistic if Punisher was a hired employee of some government agency hes not he kills people on his own. So again why aren't the cops after Punisher like they are Batman who doesn't kill (Unrealistic)..

Batman still has some belief in legit Law & Order Punisher doesn't. Frank was a grown man and already a killer when his family died..

Batman was a kid he vowed never to kill so no other kid would go thru what he did.

Fact that Batman is officially wanted would be why he wouldn't be allow to build a prison.

The cops do go after Punisher. Other marvel heroes have gone after the Punisher. The Batman is on the JLA, his best friend is the police commissioner. Again, Batman's vow not to kill has only made more kids go through what he did and worse. Look at Jason Todd. Even if he couldn't build a prison, he could give plans to help the prison or arkham keep the criminals in jail. He could even recommend that the Joker be put to death, which is legit and legal, unless the DC universe is against the death penalty.

 
Either way whatsthe point of being called the World Greatest Detective if he shouldn't be allowed to use those skills to find weaknesses in his enemies and allies.

He doesn't like to admit it be not ashamed for asking for help when needed.
 
U can make that argument (Not killing) for lots of other heroes as well.

U coming off as someone upset people hold Batman with high regard. Its not Batman fault aside from hardcore comic geeks not two fucks are given about Punisher..

Contact DC with those questions they would know. I nor anyone else can truly say why or why not a character doesn't do this or that because we cant read the mind of the writers.
 
nujerz84;4176439 said:
U can make that argument (Not killing) for lots of other heroes as well.

U coming off as someone upset people hold Batman with high regard. Its not Batman fault aside from hardcore comic geeks not two fucks are given about Punisher..

Contact DC with those questions they would know. I nor anyone else can truly say why or why not a character doesn't do this or that because we cant read the mind of the writers.

I'm not upset at all. It's just comics talk to me. I'm married with a child so I have so many other things to get upset about. This is just fun to talk about, I'm not heated whatsoever. I don't want you to think I hate Batman, he is without question in my top three character list. Spider-Man is my favorite followed by Wolverine. I know those two can't beat everybody they come across and they have powers so it's crazy to me how people can say that Batman can beat anybody with no powers. Make that three fucks, cause I don't like the Punisher either.
 
yeah i rap so don't ;4168979 said:
DarkRaiden;4168801 said:
Hulk. And the comic doesn't count, Batman would break his leg on Hulk's stomach if he kicked him and Hulk is now immune to gas IIRC. Also Thor, Loki, Doom, Magneto, Storm, Nova, and more SHOULD beat Batman, depends on the writer though. They have him do stupid retarded shit to win. Also Flash, he can't possibly lose logically.

I love how you always say shit doesn't count lmmfao. Batman ends up beating them all, I do not know how, but he will. Writers love him. DC and Marvel the company does not matter. Most if not all have a special place in their heart for him.

No seriously the Hulk one doesn't count, it was fan voted or some stupid shit, was illogical, and crossovers don't actually count in the canon continuum of the story, so it literally doesn't count.

And Flash logically should win since he's so fast he outran death, is defined as technically omnipresent, and one of the flashes ran so fast he brought himself back to life not to mention they travel through time and transform into energy(that gave themselves their own powers) through sheer speed alone. There's no real way for him to lose logically.
 
nujerz84;4175381 said:
Again Im talking Batman and only Batman something that u dont comprehend.

His mere origin and how he became to be Batman is more realistic than any other well known hero in the world of comics.

No alien or spaceshit, super serum, radioactive spiders, no majically or surgical enhanced shit, no green lantern ring etc... Just marital arts training, money/resources and intelligence.

Batman has lost plenty of times...Got addicted to Drugs when he tried to get stronger when he failed to resuce a child..One of the Best Batman stories written.

Batman the GOAT character period.

Yea but the shit that's unrealistic is that Batman would've physically broken down by now. Dude is so obsessed he'll regularly go days without sleeping, on top of taking physical damage from fights.

His will can run him for a while but even Bane broke him so batman has a limit.

Batman should've turned into the punisher by ow straight merc'n cats because he tired of seeing their faces *Belle Reeve and Arkham are revolving doors.

 
PublicEnemigo1;4177470 said:
nujerz84;4175381 said:
Again Im talking Batman and only Batman something that u dont comprehend.

His mere origin and how he became to be Batman is more realistic than any other well known hero in the world of comics.

No alien or spaceshit, super serum, radioactive spiders, no majically or surgical enhanced shit, no green lantern ring etc... Just marital arts training, money/resources and intelligence.

Batman has lost plenty of times...Got addicted to Drugs when he tried to get stronger when he failed to resuce a child..One of the Best Batman stories written.

Batman the GOAT character period.

Yea but the shit that's unrealistic is that Batman would've physically broken down by now. Dude is so obsessed he'll regularly go days without sleeping, on top of taking physical damage from fights.

His will can run him for a while but even Bane broke him so batman has a limit.

Batman should've turned into the punisher by ow straight merc'n cats because he tired of seeing their faces *Belle Reeve and Arkham are revolving doors.

I was reading somewhere that this is where the next Batman movie should go. Batman should have a complete break down and either go evil or give the Bat Uniform for good...
 
PublicEnemigo1;4177470 said:
nujerz84;4175381 said:
Again Im talking Batman and only Batman something that u dont comprehend.

His mere origin and how he became to be Batman is more realistic than any other well known hero in the world of comics.

No alien or spaceshit, super serum, radioactive spiders, no majically or surgical enhanced shit, no green lantern ring etc... Just marital arts training, money/resources and intelligence.

Batman has lost plenty of times...Got addicted to Drugs when he tried to get stronger when he failed to resuce a child..One of the Best Batman stories written.

Batman the GOAT character period.

Yea but the shit that's unrealistic is that Batman would've physically broken down by now. Dude is so obsessed he'll regularly go days without sleeping, on top of taking physical damage from fights.

His will can run him for a while but even Bane broke him so batman has a limit.

Batman should've turned into the punisher by ow straight merc'n cats because he tired of seeing their faces *Belle Reeve and Arkham are revolving doors.

Again I mentioned before you can say the samething about many other heroes as the constantly fight same supervillians over and over.

There been stories as to why Batman hasnt killed shit Under THe Red Hood is perfect example as has many stories about whether his mere presence is the reason why the villians exists in the first place... Batman vow not to kill and his mental will and toughness is too strong.. or

Plenty of times Batman got fucked up beyond belief and took weeks and months to recover.
 
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I Am Him;4176024 said:
copperkid27;4175433 said:
word...nujerz...dudes in here actuall catchin feelings....batman has been beatin to a pulp plenty of times in the comics...hell bane broke his back over his knee, slade stabbed him with a sword and spawn whipped on him with those magic green hands

where the hell yall been?

most recently in the new 52 justice league...superman choked him out

Who's catchin feelings, I know about Bane, Slade, and Spawn but why is it everytime somebody says Batman vs whoever it is always the same response. With prep time..... How many fights have you been in where you let somebody leave in the middle of a fight to come up with something to beat you with? Batman is the product of since he does not have any powers he has to be shown as the best at everything to explain how he is not dead. It's just like the Flash and Superman. The Flash is faster than Superman because that is his only power.

when has the bolded ever happened in the comic

and what does "batman is the product of since" even mean?
 
copperkid27;4179226 said:
I Am Him;4176024 said:
copperkid27;4175433 said:
word...nujerz...dudes in here actuall catchin feelings....batman has been beatin to a pulp plenty of times in the comics...hell bane broke his back over his knee, slade stabbed him with a sword and spawn whipped on him with those magic green hands

where the hell yall been?

most recently in the new 52 justice league...superman choked him out

Who's catchin feelings, I know about Bane, Slade, and Spawn but why is it everytime somebody says Batman vs whoever it is always the same response. With prep time..... How many fights have you been in where you let somebody leave in the middle of a fight to come up with something to beat you with? Batman is the product of since he does not have any powers he has to be shown as the best at everything to explain how he is not dead. It's just like the Flash and Superman. The Flash is faster than Superman because that is his only power.

when has the bolded ever happened in the comic

and what does "batman is the product of since" even mean?

The topic was never about what happened in the comics. I just wanted to know who people thought could beat Batman cause everytime somebody bring up Batman vs, the first sentence is if he had prep time he would win. You'll never see Batman vs Chuck Norris or Goku in the comics but I bet people would say Batman could beat both of them. As a matter of fact, I saw somebody post that Batman could beat Goku by starving him. Batman is the product of since means I was thinking faster than I was typing. I think I wanted to say he is the product of bad writing.
 
nujerz84;4178002 said:
PublicEnemigo1;4177470 said:
nujerz84;4175381 said:
Again Im talking Batman and only Batman something that u dont comprehend.

His mere origin and how he became to be Batman is more realistic than any other well known hero in the world of comics.

No alien or spaceshit, super serum, radioactive spiders, no majically or surgical enhanced shit, no green lantern ring etc... Just marital arts training, money/resources and intelligence.

Batman has lost plenty of times...Got addicted to Drugs when he tried to get stronger when he failed to resuce a child..One of the Best Batman stories written.

Batman the GOAT character period.

Yea but the shit that's unrealistic is that Batman would've physically broken down by now. Dude is so obsessed he'll regularly go days without sleeping, on top of taking physical damage from fights.

His will can run him for a while but even Bane broke him so batman has a limit.

Batman should've turned into the punisher by ow straight merc'n cats because he tired of seeing their faces *Belle Reeve and Arkham are revolving doors.

Again I mentioned before you can say the samething about many other heroes as the constantly fight same supervillians over and over.

There been stories as to why Batman hasnt killed shit Under THe Red Hood is perfect example as has many stories about whether his mere presence is the reason why the villians exists in the first place... Batman vow not to kill and his mental will and toughness is too strong.. or

Plenty of times Batman got fucked up beyond belief and took weeks and months to recover.

I don't know if you can say the same thing about many other heroes because they have super powers. Superman, Wonder Woman, Wolverine... They could all lasts days longer than Batman.
 
Chuck Norris???? WTF u all over the place I ll play along if Batman was real (this is retarded) he beat the breaks off him...

This thread perfect example of the shit said on internet is out of the real world...with Batman bad writing shit ...if anything hes has the best writing of any comic character
 
nujerz84;4183270 said:
Chuck Norris???? WTF u all over the place I ll play along if Batman was real (this is retarded) he beat the breaks off him...

This thread perfect example of the shit said on internet is out of the real world...with Batman bad writing shit ...if anything hes has the best writing of any comic character

Again if you read the topic title it says Batman Vs...., which means it can be anybody from anytime from anywhere. It could be Batman Vs. you, I just wanted to know who could beat Batman even if he had time to plan? Batman does not have to be real, it's not hard to draw Chuck Norris(Superman faced Muhammad Ali). As far as the bad writing on Batman, if you look at all the best Batman stories it's him going against somebody that is on a level playing field as him. When writers try to have him fighting Darkseid or whoever, then it gets stupid because there is no logical way he is going to win that fight.

 
I Am Him;4183827 said:
Again if you read the topic title it says Batman Vs...., which means it can be anybody from anytime from anywhere. It could be Batman Vs. you, I just wanted to know who could beat Batman even if he had time to plan? Batman does not have to be real, it's not hard to draw Chuck Norris(Superman faced Muhammad Ali). As far as the bad writing on Batman, if you look at all the best Batman stories it's him going against somebody that is on a level playing field as him. When writers try to have him fighting Darkseid or whoever, then it gets stupid because there is no logical way he is going to win that fight.

Key word is "could". With prep time with resources he has and the master strategist he is, Batman could come up with ways to defeat anyone that doesn't mean he would. Batman would welcome help from other heroes if he needed it.

Like team sports u can the perfect gameplan to win but if u don't execute ur team loses. This applies to Batman vs whoever..

 
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