Baltimore gets bloodier as arrests drop post-Freddie Gray

[LPast]

Let me get this clear... Nothing will change until white people start funding programs and creating jobs in the city?

No. They can start by letting all the black fathers they either wrongly convicted or unfairly sentenced out of jail. They can do a major overhaul of the judicial system and allow more black ppl in high places, so we can get rid of some of these laws DESIGNED to keep us in poverty. If ppl think by us simply "looking in the mirror" 400 years of oppression will disappear then its probably pointless to argue with you

Listen I'm not the most informed... But are you saying most of the men being sent to prison have not committed any crimes and they are being wrongfully convicted?

 

[The Hue]

Let me get this clear... Nothing will change until white people start funding programs and creating jobs in the city?

No. They can start by letting all the black fathers they either wrongly convicted or unfairly sentenced out of jail. They can do a major overhaul of the judicial system and allow more black ppl in high places, so we can get rid of some of these laws DESIGNED to keep us in poverty. If ppl think by us simply "looking in the mirror" 400 years of oppression will disappear then its probably pointless to argue with you

Listen I'm not the most informed... But are you saying most of the men being sent to prison have not committed any crimes and they are being wrongfully convicted?

They probably were rightfully convicted, but they probably got 10 more years added to their sentence for doing the same shit as a white man.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

the hood is filled with people who self sabotage and dream kill.

not enough dream conquerors and self motivators.

 

[blacktux]

@manofmorehouse brother thank you for speaking on behalf of us that still have pride despite the conditions we face.

Some of yall should be ashamed of yourself to really believe a white hand has to move for change or reform to happen within our communities.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

i am starting to think.....niggas dont want to do better because it comes with acting better.

if you dont do shit or want shit than you can have an excuse to act like shit.

seems like it take more energy and thinking to be responsible than wreckless.

taking the easier route .....so they think. the route is actually harder and making your life harder.

for black people to be where we are with all that we face.....if we ever become a unit...this world is done.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

you can knock over one domino,

you can even knock over a few dominoes,

you can even still knock over one domino that will take other dominoes down with it..

but if those dominoes are close with out anything between them....you know have a solid force that cant be knocked over...only pushed. and it will resemble a weapon someone doesnt want upside their head.

 

[fuc_i_look_like]

The violence and despair is the result of racial discrimination and failed government policy

Just a few years ago, Wells Fargo agreed to pay millions of dollars to Bmore and its residents to settle a landmark lawsuit brought by the city claiming the bank unfairly steered minorities who wanted to own homes into subprime mortgages

Before that, there was the crack epidemic of the 90s and the rise of mass incarceration

Than there was the decline of good industrial jobs in the 80s

Before all that, blk families were displaced in Baltimore to build new highways, schools and housing projects. Pieces of their neighborhoods including play grounds bulldozed

And there was redlining, a practice where banks refused to lend at all in blk neighborhoods

I seen it happen in Detroit

Inequality, created over the years by active decisions and government policies that have again and again dismantled the same communities, each time making them socially, economically, and politically weaker

The violence needs to end, but how can we ask young ppl many of whom are from impoverished broken homes to change this "fuck the world" mindset when its more than obvious they are not valued members of society...

That's putting the cart before the horse

With all due respect, this is bullshit to some degree. I say some degree because I don't think you're wrong outright, but at some point, we have to acknowledge we have bad seeds in our community and they need to be handled. There are plenty of poor communities all over America. They haven't all turned into Baltimore, Chicago, and Detroit. Blacks have caught a raw deal in this country, but ya'll have to stop acting like that explains or excuses madness like this. At some point, ya'll are going to have to admit that there is negative shit in our community that we are responsible for and we have to fix before we can ever take on the threats from outside.

When cats in Baltimore were destroying their own hood because they were supposedly angry with the police, ya'll were defending them. Now that the cops have fallen back, are those people showing the world that the cops were wrong to look at them the way they did? No, they are proving them right. All of this is on the people in that community. There comes a time when you have to stop point fingers at others and take a look at yourself.

Bruh

There's a difference between making excuses and acknowledging the environment which breeds this toxic behavior

Unless a person already a bigot, the violence perpetrated by im sure a small number of citizens compared to that of the law abiding citizens of west bmore and beyond, doesn't come close to justifying how the police have terrorized blk bmore residents

The city has a long and storied history of police misconduct and the subsequent pay outs paid with millions in tax payer money

Again as i already stated the violence must stop...but its not as simple as a change in mindset ... and it has to begin with addressing poverty

If we give the youth purpose and opportunities to make money with afterschool initiatives, for example, maybe they wouldn't join a gang or sell drugs to fill those voids

And what about building more rehabilitation clinics for addicts

We lower poverty rates, drug abuse and gang activity that would cut the murder rate in half...maybe even more

Nobody is saying that those things can't be done, but why can there never be a discussion about anything that black people do wrong without trying to act like 100% of the blame lies outside of the community. There are things you can do to improve the situation in Baltimore, but that doesn't mean that things will automatically turn around. There are bad eggs there and they aren't going to suddenly start being good eggs because people are doing nice things in the community. Hell, if those nice things impeded on their interests, they would likely resist the changes. That has happened too.

Like I said before, I'm not saying you were wrong with your first post. And you're not wrong with this post. It's just annoying how every time there is a discussion about some bad behavior within the community, someone always runs in trying to act like blacks are incapable of being accountable for their own actions. Regardless of what white people do to us, we make our own choices. Blacks have always been shitted on in this country, but we weren't always killing each other by the dozen every weekend.

With the exception of slavery, never have blacks

lived in such tight quarters either... once upon a time most blks lived in rural areas

You're gonna see more violent crime in cities and urban areas for obvious reasons

Couple that with gangs fighting for drug territory, poverty, high unemployment rate and you have a powder keg

Its no coincidence with the crack epidemic we seen a spike violence in major cities across america

And respectability politics in all its forms is nothing new..

From the W.E.B. Du Bois and Bill Cosbys of the world, the message of self accountability, having a high moral character, and self reliance has always had a big following

Its as popular today as it ever was

Take for instance how most mainstream media, politicians, public figures framed the riots as the result of misbehaving children, and a general lack of discipline stemming from disorderly families... the majority of posters here shared the same sentiments

Little to no mention of reports from teachers and other community members who say the police were the main instigators

There is a conversation to be had about our role in the destruction of our neighborhoods, but my problem with what ur saying and respectability politics as a whole is too often "black culture" is used as a scape goat ...

That and i don't believe most drug dealers, gang members, etc were born bad ppl...which has essentially been my argument

There is a multitude of reasons why they behave the way that they do

Flowers generally don't bloom for the concrete...same concept

So niggas are commiting violent crimes because we live in close living quarters. Gotcha. Lol

Not reading anything further in your post just based off that.

 

[zzombie]

The violence and despair is the result of racial discrimination and failed government policy

Just a few years ago, Wells Fargo agreed to pay millions of dollars to Bmore and its residents to settle a landmark lawsuit brought by the city claiming the bank unfairly steered minorities who wanted to own homes into subprime mortgages

Before that, there was the crack epidemic of the 90s and the rise of mass incarceration

Than there was the decline of good industrial jobs in the 80s

Before all that, blk families were displaced in Baltimore to build new highways, schools and housing projects. Pieces of their neighborhoods including play grounds bulldozed

And there was redlining, a practice where banks refused to lend at all in blk neighborhoods

I seen it happen in Detroit

Inequality, created over the years by active decisions and government policies that have again and again dismantled the same communities, each time making them socially, economically, and politically weaker

The violence needs to end, but how can we ask young ppl many of whom are from impoverished broken homes to change this "fuck the world" mindset when its more than obvious they are not valued members of society...

That's putting the cart before the horse

With all due respect, this is bullshit to some degree. I say some degree because I don't think you're wrong outright, but at some point, we have to acknowledge we have bad seeds in our community and they need to be handled. There are plenty of poor communities all over America. They haven't all turned into Baltimore, Chicago, and Detroit. Blacks have caught a raw deal in this country, but ya'll have to stop acting like that explains or excuses madness like this. At some point, ya'll are going to have to admit that there is negative shit in our community that we are responsible for and we have to fix before we can ever take on the threats from outside.

When cats in Baltimore were destroying their own hood because they were supposedly angry with the police, ya'll were defending them. Now that the cops have fallen back, are those people showing the world that the cops were wrong to look at them the way they did? No, they are proving them right. All of this is on the people in that community. There comes a time when you have to stop point fingers at others and take a look at yourself.

Bruh

There's a difference between making excuses and acknowledging the environment which breeds this toxic behavior

Unless a person already a bigot, the violence perpetrated by im sure a small number of citizens compared to that of the law abiding citizens of west bmore and beyond, doesn't come close to justifying how the police have terrorized blk bmore residents

The city has a long and storied history of police misconduct and the subsequent pay outs paid with millions in tax payer money

Again as i already stated the violence must stop...but its not as simple as a change in mindset ... and it has to begin with addressing poverty

If we give the youth purpose and opportunities to make money with afterschool initiatives, for example, maybe they wouldn't join a gang or sell drugs to fill those voids

And what about building more rehabilitation clinics for addicts

We lower poverty rates, drug abuse and gang activity that would cut the murder rate in half...maybe even more

Nobody is saying that those things can't be done, but why can there never be a discussion about anything that black people do wrong without trying to act like 100% of the blame lies outside of the community. There are things you can do to improve the situation in Baltimore, but that doesn't mean that things will automatically turn around. There are bad eggs there and they aren't going to suddenly start being good eggs because people are doing nice things in the community. Hell, if those nice things impeded on their interests, they would likely resist the changes. That has happened too.

Like I said before, I'm not saying you were wrong with your first post. And you're not wrong with this post. It's just annoying how every time there is a discussion about some bad behavior within the community, someone always runs in trying to act like blacks are incapable of being accountable for their own actions. Regardless of what white people do to us, we make our own choices. Blacks have always been shitted on in this country, but we weren't always killing each other by the dozen every weekend.

With the exception of slavery, never have blacks

lived in such tight quarters either... once upon a time most blks lived in rural areas

You're gonna see more violent crime in cities and urban areas for obvious reasons

Couple that with gangs fighting for drug territory, poverty, high unemployment rate and you have a powder keg

Its no coincidence with the crack epidemic we seen a spike violence in major cities across america

And respectability politics in all its forms is nothing new..

From the W.E.B. Du Bois and Bill Cosbys of the world, the message of self accountability, having a high moral character, and self reliance has always had a big following

Its as popular today as it ever was

Take for instance how most mainstream media, politicians, public figures framed the riots as the result of misbehaving children, and a general lack of discipline stemming from disorderly families... the majority of posters here shared the same sentiments

Little to no mention of reports from teachers and other community members who say the police were the main instigators

There is a conversation to be had about our role in the destruction of our neighborhoods, but my problem with what ur saying and respectability politics as a whole is too often "black culture" is used as a scape goat ...

That and i don't believe most drug dealers, gang members, etc were born bad ppl...which has essentially been my argument

There is a multitude of reasons why they behave the way that they do

Flowers generally don't bloom for the concrete...same concept

So niggas are commiting violent crimes because we live in close living quarters. Gotcha. Lol

Not reading anything further in your post just based off that.

It's just the liberal feminist tripe of blaming others for your problems unnecessarily

 

[rabbitfood]

Never become compliant with complacency.

 

[PapaDoc223]

So, based on the arguments of some of yall, all we need is jobs and drug legalization to stop crime and killing s in the hood, right?? Smh This mentality is exactly why shit will never change. We've become a bunch of irresponsible children who do shit, then when trouble comes, claim that it's not our fault. Society did this to us. Society forces us into gangs. Society has us pick up guns and kill people that look like us. Society has us killing people with drugs that look like us in our own communities. Here's my question: what part of your life and your life decisions are U responsible for?? Niggas in here singing the same damn song and wondering why their life prospects haven't changed. Good luck with that. Lmao @ comparing personal responsibility with shit Limbaugh or Hannity say. Yall niggas are truly lost

On the job part We need to create our own jobs and our own businesses. This is why the civil rights generation and generation x failed us. They were focused on integration not building a separate economic base like the Asians, Arabs or Hispanics do. White folks dont care about us at all.

 

[Stiff]

So, based on the arguments of some of yall, all we need is jobs and drug legalization to stop crime and killing s in the hood, right?? Smh This mentality is exactly why shit will never change. We've become a bunch of irresponsible children who do shit, then when trouble comes, claim that it's not our fault. Society did this to us. Society forces us into gangs. Society has us pick up guns and kill people that look like us. Society has us killing people with drugs that look like us in our own communities. Here's my question: what part of your life and your life decisions are U responsible for?? Niggas in here singing the same damn song and wondering why their life prospects haven't changed. Good luck with that. Lmao @ comparing personal responsibility with shit Limbaugh or Hannity say. Yall niggas are truly lost

So you believe that if Blacks had equal access to opportunities and resources as Whites or other minorities, the murder rate would still be just as high?

The bolded is ironic because "personal responsibility" is pretty much the manifesto of limbaugh, hannity, and o'reilly in a nutshell. The whole pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps no matter what, thing.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

So, based on the arguments of some of yall, all we need is jobs and drug legalization to stop crime and killing s in the hood, right?? Smh This mentality is exactly why shit will never change. We've become a bunch of irresponsible children who do shit, then when trouble comes, claim that it's not our fault. Society did this to us. Society forces us into gangs. Society has us pick up guns and kill people that look like us. Society has us killing people with drugs that look like us in our own communities. Here's my question: what part of your life and your life decisions are U responsible for?? Niggas in here singing the same damn song and wondering why their life prospects haven't changed. Good luck with that. Lmao @ comparing personal responsibility with shit Limbaugh or Hannity say. Yall niggas are truly lost

Umm.... yes, that would be a start. People commit crimes FOR A REASON. If everyone had a job, a cash flow, and something to live for, they would be less likely to commit a crime. When's the last time you robbed someone, or shot at somebody? Why is that?

And your ignorance is on one hundred right now, acting as if systematic racism doesn't play a significant part. First off, where did the guns and drugs come from smart one? Why are we sentenced to much longer prison time for the same crimes? Why are so many black men, the leader of the black family, locked up? You can't be serious. We were just "granted" the right to vote 50 years ago. The United States of America is a capitalist society, and a lot of us came from slavery or $0 to our name, so what does that tell you? The situation a lot of black people are in is filled with desperation and finding a way to survive and put food on the table, which is by design. Stop acting like it's not a dog eat dog world out here.

The system we're in is heavily stacked against us, and you either get it or you don't. The hiring managers are racist, the police are racist, the judge is racist, black people are racist against each other (people like you), people are gullible enough to believe the media as fact (people like you SMH).

I also would like to add that black people are making huge strides, but they, as in the media and the statisticians will NEVER let you know the truth, because they do not want a positive morale push. They're attacking the mind of you gullible fucks who will continue to bask in negativity, because you don't know any better.

 

[PapaDoc223]

So, based on the arguments of some of yall, all we need is jobs and drug legalization to stop crime and killing s in the hood, right?? Smh This mentality is exactly why shit will never change. We've become a bunch of irresponsible children who do shit, then when trouble comes, claim that it's not our fault. Society did this to us. Society forces us into gangs. Society has us pick up guns and kill people that look like us. Society has us killing people with drugs that look like us in our own communities. Here's my question: what part of your life and your life decisions are U responsible for?? Niggas in here singing the same damn song and wondering why their life prospects haven't changed. Good luck with that. Lmao @ comparing personal responsibility with shit Limbaugh or Hannity say. Yall niggas are truly lost

Umm.... yes, that would be a start. People commit crimes FOR A REASON. If everyone had a job, a cash flow, and something to live for, they would be less likely to commit a crime. When's the last time you robbed someone, or shot at somebody? Why is that?

And your ignorance is on one hundred right now, acting as if systematic racism doesn't play a significant part. First off, where did the guns and drugs come from smart one? Why are we sentenced to much longer prison time for the same crimes? Why are so many black men, the leader of the black family, locked up? You can't be serious. We were just "granted" the right to vote 50 years ago. The United States of America is a capitalist society, and a lot of us came from slavery or $0 to our name, so what does that tell you? The situation a lot of black people are in is filled with desperation and finding a way to survive and put food on the table, which is by design. Stop acting like it's not a dog eat dog world out here.

The system we're in is heavily stacked against us, and you either get it or you don't. The hiring managers are racist, the police are racist, the judge is racist, black people are racist against each other (people like you), people are gullible enough to believe the media as fact (people like you SMH).

I also would like to add that black people are making huge strides, but they, as in the media and the statisticians will NEVER let you know the truth, because they do not want a positive morale push. They're attacking the mind of you gullible fucks who will continue to bask in negativity, because you don't know any better.

On the drugs and guns part nobody ever looks at where they come from? The DEA weeks ago found out it had agents in sex parties hosted by south american drug cartels. Its widley known that the DEA has agents who are bought off by Mexican drug cartels to allow drugs into the ghetto. Iran Contra anybody? The Mexican govt has close ties to drug cartels and only persecute their rivals in their behalf.

Also the guns is an issue not discussed. Here in NYC we have the strictest gun laws and yet shooting and shooting murders has gone up 15% this year from all of last year. 90% of guns used in crime come from out of state. Interstate gun traffickers are not persecuted and are hard to catch since there is so many loopholes. Most these traffickers straw purchase guns in bulk in 2 or 3 states and sell them to gangs and drug dealers. The feds are unwilling to stop them. So we have to do it ourselves.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

So, based on the arguments of some of yall, all we need is jobs and drug legalization to stop crime and killing s in the hood, right?? Smh This mentality is exactly why shit will never change. We've become a bunch of irresponsible children who do shit, then when trouble comes, claim that it's not our fault. Society did this to us. Society forces us into gangs. Society has us pick up guns and kill people that look like us. Society has us killing people with drugs that look like us in our own communities. Here's my question: what part of your life and your life decisions are U responsible for?? Niggas in here singing the same damn song and wondering why their life prospects haven't changed. Good luck with that. Lmao @ comparing personal responsibility with shit Limbaugh or Hannity say. Yall niggas are truly lost

Umm.... yes, that would be a start. People commit crimes FOR A REASON. If everyone had a job, a cash flow, and something to live for, they would be less likely to commit a crime. When's the last time you robbed someone, or shot at somebody? Why is that?

And your ignorance is on one hundred right now, acting as if systematic racism doesn't play a significant part. First off, where did the guns and drugs come from smart one? Why are we sentenced to much longer prison time for the same crimes? Why are so many black men, the leader of the black family, locked up? You can't be serious. We were just "granted" the right to vote 50 years ago. The United States of America is a capitalist society, and a lot of us came from slavery or $0 to our name, so what does that tell you? The situation a lot of black people are in is filled with desperation and finding a way to survive and put food on the table, which is by design. Stop acting like it's not a dog eat dog world out here.

The system we're in is heavily stacked against us, and you either get it or you don't. The hiring managers are racist, the police are racist, the judge is racist, black people are racist against each other (people like you), people are gullible enough to believe the media as fact (people like you SMH).

I also would like to add that black people are making huge strides, but they, as in the media and the statisticians will NEVER let you know the truth, because they do not want a positive morale push. They're attacking the mind of you gullible fucks who will continue to bask in negativity, because you don't know any better.

On the drugs and guns part nobody ever looks at where they come from? The DEA weeks ago found out it had agents in sex parties hosted by south american drug cartels. Its widley known that the DEA has agents who are bought off by Mexican drug cartels to allow drugs into the ghetto. Iran Contra anybody? The Mexican govt has close ties to drug cartels and only persecute their rivals in their behalf.

Also the guns is an issue not discussed. Here in NYC we have the strictest gun laws and yet shooting and shooting murders has gone up 15% this year from all of last year. 90% of guns used in crime come from out of state. Interstate gun traffickers are not persecuted and are hard to catch since there is so many loopholes. Most these traffickers straw purchase guns in bulk in 2 or 3 states and sell them to gangs and drug dealers. The feds are unwilling to stop them. So we have to do it ourselves.

having a gun .....hmmm

we can go back to personal responsibility.

i have a gun. used to carry it with me.

but i wasnt a want nothing type dude...so i left it home. truth be told...i wasnt gonna kill nobody that wasnt coming into my home.

if i took an L ...i took that L.

if anything more happened...i needed to look at how i got into that situation.

if it was random...it goes back to taking that L.

having a gun to feel more powerful..well thats weak shit.

simply because its not being used in the right manner.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Nigga where the fuck did I say that we shouldn't be responsible for our actions? What trips me out is how niggas like you that shit on Fox News for speaking on black on black crime when a pig kills one of us then turn right around and say the same shit. The truth is that if you're going to be killed by somebody, it's gonna be somebody that looks just like you.

ok....so why let criminal run rampant in our hoods.....

why is the no snitching thing have such a grip on our hoods?

What is this, us vs. them mentality between our own people? The criminal in this country is anyone with brown skin, and the criminals in our hoods are our misguided cousins, friends, and nephews. You sound like white people.

And lol @ attacking "no snitching". Why don't you ask the police force and the corporations the same thing? No one snitches on their own group of people, and someone with my overview of the system is not sending a young misguided individual to prison/slavery over doing what he deems necessary to feed his family.

 

[Stiff]

Nigga where the fuck did I say that we shouldn't be responsible for our actions? What trips me out is how niggas like you that shit on Fox News for speaking on black on black crime when a pig kills one of us then turn right around and say the same shit. The truth is that if you're going to be killed by somebody, it's gonna be somebody that looks just like you.

ok....so why let criminal run rampant in our hoods.....

why is the no snitching thing have such a grip on our hoods?

What is this, us vs. them mentality between our own people? The criminal in this country is anyone with brown skin, and the criminals in our hoods are our misguided cousins, friends, and nephews. You sound like white people.

And lol @ attacking "no snitching". Why don't you ask the police force and the corporations the same thing? No one snitches on their own group of people, and someone with my overview of the system is not sending a young misguided individual to prison/slavery over doing what he deems necessary to feed his family.

and this is the thing that gets me that people keep saying in this thread…they keep talking as if these "criminals" are some outside invading force that landed in the neighborhoods and and are wreaking havoc…

these are still human beings…people that we grew up with…people that we share bloodlines with…same cousin that used to be over at auntie house on Sunday..

it's indicative of the same problem that society as a whole has…failure to recognize the humanity in entire groups of people.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

So, based on the arguments of some of yall, all we need is jobs and drug legalization to stop crime and killing s in the hood, right?? Smh This mentality is exactly why shit will never change. We've become a bunch of irresponsible children who do shit, then when trouble comes, claim that it's not our fault. Society did this to us. Society forces us into gangs. Society has us pick up guns and kill people that look like us. Society has us killing people with drugs that look like us in our own communities. Here's my question: what part of your life and your life decisions are U responsible for?? Niggas in here singing the same damn song and wondering why their life prospects haven't changed. Good luck with that. Lmao @ comparing personal responsibility with shit Limbaugh or Hannity say. Yall niggas are truly lost

On the job part We need to create our own jobs and our own businesses. This is why the civil rights generation and generation x failed us. They were focused on integration not building a separate economic base like the Asians, Arabs or Hispanics do. White folks dont care about us at all.

Truth, but you know the hard-headed always got to see it/feel it to believe it. Now our generation seems to think that economic independence within the same country that has their foot on our throats is the answer, but I believe that will also fail if it is not supported by an outside entity, which is what happened with Black Wallstreet. The problem is, people lack foresight, so once again, they will have to see it happen before they move onto another solution.

I don't see why the rule they have in place wouldn't simply shut it down, like they did in the past. All they have to do is use the same media outlets that has the people in this thread talking crazy, to justify shutting it down. And then we will be back to square zero.

Nonetheless, it's a step forward.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Nigga where the fuck did I say that we shouldn't be responsible for our actions? What trips me out is how niggas like you that shit on Fox News for speaking on black on black crime when a pig kills one of us then turn right around and say the same shit. The truth is that if you're going to be killed by somebody, it's gonna be somebody that looks just like you.

ok....so why let criminal run rampant in our hoods.....

why is the no snitching thing have such a grip on our hoods?

What is this, us vs. them mentality between our own people? The criminal in this country is anyone with brown skin, and the criminals in our hoods are our misguided cousins, friends, and nephews. You sound like white people.

And lol @ attacking "no snitching". Why don't you ask the police force and the corporations the same thing? No one snitches on their own group of people, and someone with my overview of the system is not sending a young misguided individual to prison/slavery over doing what he deems necessary to feed his family.

and this is the thing that gets me that people keep saying in this thread…they keep talking as if these "criminals" are some outside invading force that landed in the neighborhoods and and are wreaking havoc…

these are still human beings…people that we grew up with…people that we share bloodlines with…same cousin that used to be over at auntie house on Sunday..

it's indicative of the same problem that society as a whole has…failure to recognize the humanity in entire groups of people.

those criminal cousins and shit need to either be cut off or dealt with with a long stick.

just because they are family dont mean shit.

bruh...i learned the hard way about family......

you need to raise you own family first....you need to self preserve first.

those cousins and shit have nothing to lose...and they inturn part of the problem.

we need to lose a few to gain a future...so be it.

you cant take everyone along for the ride.....otherwise you will never get anywhere.

an why should they come for the ride...they only gonna fukk it up an bring down the progress.

 

[Stiff]

Nigga where the fuck did I say that we shouldn't be responsible for our actions? What trips me out is how niggas like you that shit on Fox News for speaking on black on black crime when a pig kills one of us then turn right around and say the same shit. The truth is that if you're going to be killed by somebody, it's gonna be somebody that looks just like you.

ok....so why let criminal run rampant in our hoods.....

why is the no snitching thing have such a grip on our hoods?

What is this, us vs. them mentality between our own people? The criminal in this country is anyone with brown skin, and the criminals in our hoods are our misguided cousins, friends, and nephews. You sound like white people.

And lol @ attacking "no snitching". Why don't you ask the police force and the corporations the same thing? No one snitches on their own group of people, and someone with my overview of the system is not sending a young misguided individual to prison/slavery over doing what he deems necessary to feed his family.

and this is the thing that gets me that people keep saying in this thread…they keep talking as if these "criminals" are some outside invading force that landed in the neighborhoods and and are wreaking havoc…

these are still human beings…people that we grew up with…people that we share bloodlines with…same cousin that used to be over at auntie house on Sunday..

it's indicative of the same problem that society as a whole has…failure to recognize the humanity in entire groups of people.

those criminal cousins and shit need to either be cut off or dealt with with a long stick.

just because they are family dont mean shit.

bruh...i learned the hard way about family......

you need to raise you own family first....you need to self preserve first.

those cousins and shit have nothing to lose...and they inturn part of the problem.

we need to lose a few to gain a future...so be it.

you cant take everyone along for the ride.....otherwise you will never get anywhere.

an why should they come for the ride...they only gonna fukk it up an bring down the progress.

So what's the cut-off then..cut off 14 year olds and up? 13 ? Or as soon as junior gets suspended from school in the 3rd grade for the first time just drive him out to the woods and leave him?

 

[damobb2deep]

@manofmorehouse brother thank you for speaking on behalf of us that still have pride despite the conditions we face.

Some of yall should be ashamed of yourself to really believe a white hand has to move for change or reform to happen within our communities.

threads like this never seem to amaze me... both sides have valid points but niggas on the "blacks gotta do better" side will not admit that the system is set up to go against us... yet the people on the other side will not take responsibility for their actions... both sides are too stubborn to meet in the middle... and that's the real reason our community is the way it is...