Baltimore gets bloodier as arrests drop post-Freddie Gray

[blackamerica]

They sound like the fucking hadjis in iraq.

Yall assholes live in this community, will rise against the police, POLICE the police but wont organize to run the filth out of your community.

Perpetual victims too afraid to do what it takes to take their streets back.

These are VERY poverty stricken communities. What you're seeing is low income neighborhoods, with poorly educated schools & high unemployment rates, placed on top of each other. Anytime you got poor ppl housed condensed in a tight space, you will have a high crime. Its deeper than "niggaz can do better". Its not about niggaz. Its about the poor & uneducated

 

[Stiff]

one thing i hate hearing is that .....

people who make it out is the exception and not the rule.

i always want to know why they cant be the rule.

like @playmaker88 says.....the mindset.

why look at yourself as lower because you are in a low cost area?

then you got niggas who love jail.....they do whatever they gotta do to be in jail. i call them communist niggas.....cause they want someone to give them everything and tell them what to do..

Well when you use phrases like "make it out" that kind of implies that you're not supposed to survive.

But okay you say the mind states of people are fucked up and I agree..how'd the mind states get tucked up though?

from the excuses.

if you keep making an excuse why you losing fights before the fight starts...why would you train harder?

when i say make it out....i mean.....you do better .....you make it out of poverty....you have the option of staying or the option of leaving. you make it out of the mindframe that keeps some many people down.

What are excuses being made for and why are they making excuses

 

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[desertrain10]

The violence and despair is the result of racial discrimination and failed government policy

Just a few years ago, Wells Fargo agreed to pay millions of dollars to Bmore and its residents to settle a landmark lawsuit brought by the city claiming the bank unfairly steered minorities who wanted to own homes into subprime mortgages

Before that, there was the crack epidemic of the 90s and the rise of mass incarceration

Than there was the decline of good industrial jobs in the 80s

Before all that, blk families were displaced in Baltimore to build new highways, schools and housing projects. Pieces of their neighborhoods including play grounds bulldozed

And there was redlining, a practice where banks refused to lend at all in blk neighborhoods

I seen it happen in Detroit

Inequality, created over the years by active decisions and government policies that have again and again dismantled the same communities, each time making them socially, economically, and politically weaker

The violence needs to end, but how can we ask young ppl many of whom are from impoverished broken homes to change this "fuck the world" mindset when its more than obvious they are not valued members of society...

That's putting the cart before the horse

 

[desertrain10]

Wouldn't be surprised if the police were cooking the books before the freddie gray incident either

 

[Dupac]

niggaz scared of their own neighbors yo.....that's what it is...they scared to go outsides and tell them niggaz take that shit somewhere else

 

[The Lonious Monk]

The violence and despair is the result of racial discrimination and failed government policy

Just a few years ago, Wells Fargo agreed to pay millions of dollars to Bmore and its residents to settle a landmark lawsuit brought by the city claiming the bank unfairly steered minorities who wanted to own homes into subprime mortgages

Before that, there was the crack epidemic of the 90s and the rise of mass incarceration

Than there was the decline of good industrial jobs in the 80s

Before all that, blk families were displaced in Baltimore to build new highways, schools and housing projects. Pieces of their neighborhoods including play grounds bulldozed

And there was redlining, a practice where banks refused to lend at all in blk neighborhoods

I seen it happen in Detroit

Inequality, created over the years by active decisions and government policies that have again and again dismantled the same communities, each time making them socially, economically, and politically weaker

The violence needs to end, but how can we ask young ppl many of whom are from impoverished broken homes to change this "fuck the world" mindset when its more than obvious they are not valued members of society...

That's putting the cart before the horse

With all due respect, this is bullshit to some degree. I say some degree because I don't think you're wrong outright, but at some point, we have to acknowledge we have bad seeds in our community and they need to be handled. There are plenty of poor communities all over America. They haven't all turned into Baltimore, Chicago, and Detroit. Blacks have caught a raw deal in this country, but ya'll have to stop acting like that explains or excuses madness like this. At some point, ya'll are going to have to admit that there is negative shit in our community that we are responsible for and we have to fix before we can ever take on the threats from outside.

When cats in Baltimore were destroying their own hood because they were supposedly angry with the police, ya'll were defending them. Now that the cops have fallen back, are those people showing the world that the cops were wrong to look at them the way they did? No, they are proving them right. All of this is on the people in that community. There comes a time when you have to stop point fingers at others and take a look at yourself.

 

[blackamerica]

Quit cutting excuses.

No one likes a bully, these folks can organize against the police but cant organize against the gamgs in there neighborhood.

Sound like they need a night of the machete.

Excuses? You sound ignorant & grossly uneducated

Crime in densely populated poor neighborhoods is not a black thing, as much as you wish it is. What ppl are protesting about in Baltimore & other cities is JUSTICE for unarmed black kids murdered by cops. Justice meaning jail time for the police abusing the system, and lack of racial equality within that system. When you talk crime, that means somebody goes to trial and is eventually convicted. Statistics show crime is prevalent in poor communities (regardless of race). You're a idiot if you assume black ppl can simply organize a neighborhood watch and cure black on black crime smh. Getting ppl out of poverty, providing jobs & educating them is a step in the right direction. Its requires a systematic change. Educate yourself before you critize others next time

 

[PapaDoc223]

All this does is feed the stereotyping that we are savages and animals. However we have to look at it this way. Where are these gangs getting their illegal guns from? Why hasnt the feds cracked down on the illegal gun traffickers that straw purchase guns by the bulk in surrounding states that have lax gun laws?

Also why havent we organized to police these grimy hoods since the decline of the BPP in the 70s. Here in sunset park in brooklyn china town you know what the chinks did when crime went up a little last year? They created their neoghborhood watch. The Jews in Boro park got they own police force. The NYPD barely goes into the Jewish hoods unless something serious happens.

We have to learn to stop being dependent on a white supremacist system. We need to stop asking and begging and learn to to be self sufficient by follow Powernomics by Dr. Claude Andersen. When the racist cops try to do a slow down we need have a neighborhood watch hell even militias to police these hoods. All in all in order to fix our problems we need to fix it ourselves.

 

[Huey_C]

They sound like the fucking hadjis in iraq.

Yall assholes live in this community, will rise against the police, POLICE the police but wont organize to run the filth out of your community.

Perpetual victims too afraid to do what it takes to take their streets back.

Preach!!! Alot of posters on this site have the perpetual victim mentality. Police must be held accountable but so do the double agent cancers destroying our neighborhoods.

 

[blackrain]

i feel like this is the time for the community to take control and show the cops are not needed ........this is the time to check the fukk shit.

this is when neighborhood watch and 100 black men can take control and regulate....

It's the time for that only problem is someone committing crimes don't give a fuck about the person trying to stop them and won't be more likely to stop just because 100 black men patrol the streets as opposed to 100 police officers. They still gonna try to do fucked up shit.

 

[playmaker88]

Self destructive individuals will be self destructive no matter what.

 

[D0wn]

Self destructive individuals will be self destructive no matter what.

The great thing is, the self destructive ppl are a minority.

In my opinion i think the cops are out there in b.more causing trouble in there as well.

 

[Huey_C]

Self destructive individuals will be self destructive no matter what.

Would be great if they only destroyed themselves but they dont

 

[Stiff]

i feel like this is the time for the community to take control and show the cops are not needed ........this is the time to check the fukk shit.

this is when neighborhood watch and 100 black men can take control and regulate....

It's the time for that only problem is someone committing crimes don't give a fuck about the person trying to stop them and won't be more likely to stop just because 100 black men patrol the streets as opposed to 100 police officers. They still gonna try to do fucked up shit.

MOTHERFUCKING THIS.

I've been beating around the bush but let me say this…all of that "the white man isn't holding us back. We're holding ourselves back" y'all trying to kick is bullshit.

Most people aren't born criminals. There's no criminal gene. What turns people towards destructive behavior other than conditioning? Who/what is doing the conditioning? That's low key some inferiority shit y'all preach. You think young Blacks are out here shooting and killing each other because that's what they were born to do? Nah it's because some of them don't have the same opportunities as everybody else..and just as importantly some of them just feel like they don't have the same opportunities.

If a person doesn't feel like they have anything to lose…then they don't give a fuck about losing it all. Period.

When you have neighborhoods full of people who feel like they have nothing to lose…you have high murder rates.

 

[stackmaster 313]

Listen man this shit is going on across the whole country. Not just Baltimore, the problem is the system not BLACK people. Violence is instilled in US all. Some people get out some people get caught up. But since us BLACKS are at the bottom of the totem pole to begin with many are in Survival mode. Which is a shame because it's extremely hard to overcome. When you have no Justice no Liberty, Over policed , Over prosecuted, Over Sentenced, Over worked and Underpaid. Under Educated. So many factors your not considering for some reason. Some individuals cant overcome it and fall Victim to it. So you have to understand the System has failed the inner city. You have to know that. We have a trillion dollars $$$ to fight the war on terrror. But nothing for the Inner City (Blacks). I remember not having school books not having paper to print the homework. No tissue no school supplies, No parks, No jobs, No street lights. No father figures (victims of the system) No role models Whats to come of the forgotten and fucked over? What does that say do we matter to them. When we fall victim to the SYSTEM trap they created for us....Does Our Lives Matter to white America. The answer should be obvious.

 

[1CK1S]

Police on some passive aggressive sh-t

 

[texas409]

messed up situation on all sides. You have these animals out here taking advantage of folks in their own communities because they know the cops are laxed. Shooting up folks and murdering folks and probably were the same folks screaming for justice. Then you got these cops that say " they wont let us kill niggas in peace well forget them we aint gonna do our job" But it all boils down to US! Why cant we just follow the law and live in peace without law enforcement hovering over our communities 24/7?

 

[PapaDoc223]

i feel like this is the time for the community to take control and show the cops are not needed ........this is the time to check the fukk shit.

this is when neighborhood watch and 100 black men can take control and regulate....

Exactly. You need real leaders and the youth news to abide and learn critical thinking.

Most of these shooting are poor conflict resolutions. In the opening scene of Strapped two young niggas who are friends are fighting in an apartment hallway because one called anothers older brother pussy. One of these young niggas pulled a gun out and shot his friend. This is a movie but this is happening in NYC,Baltimore, Detroit, LA and many more across the city. We have to teach the young kids gudance that is why im volunteering at Boys and Girls club cuz enough talking and more action.

 

[S2J]

The violence and despair is the result of racial discrimination and failed government policy

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The violence needs to end, but how can we ask young ppl many of whom are from impoverished broken homes to change this "fuck the world" mindset when its more than obvious they are not valued members of society...

That's putting the cart before the horse

I truncated your post bc i think, your point lies in those 2 paragraphs

Cs dude above me. Thats just bullshyt

And tbh its embarassing. Theres a lot of things you can preface and 'excuse' by citing economic injustice and discrimination (rioting being one) but murder? Cold blooded murder? Thats just so cringeworthy. Terrible. Like we're subhuman and cant expect to have any governing. That whoa is me shit needs to die.