Aye Y'all Know Hillary Clinton is Trash Right?

[xxCivicxx]

I personally havent seen anything from Hillary thats so bad. I dont agree with her on everything. She simply appears to be the better option. Its not even close. Its laughable that they would even put dude up as a candidate and the other option. Like does someone think people are complete and utter spectacular idiots?I mean come on. Dude blatantly insults people tell people to go fck themselves wants stop and frisk for people of color nationwide even though crime is at historic lows. The markets tank at any hint of him rising in the slightest way in any poll because everybody knows he is a disaster. This isnt brain surgery.

@Stiff, Posting all those facts about crooked Hillary, then saying you'll still PROBABLY vote for her is a microcosm of why NEITHER party takes us seriously. You have all the facts in order to make an INFORMED decision. Yet fear, emotion, and irrational assumptions about "doomsday scenarios", IN YOUR MIND about the other candidate make you, and the vast majority of black people to swallow the blue pill.

Throw in some fear, mixed with low-brow pandering ads (Barbershop video) go speak in a black church in the black community. That's the template to herd the black vote like cattle.

Switch up your cadence so your inflection in tone has a tinge of Ebonics in it. Propose shit that you know want get passed (20 billion dollars for HBCU'S) as low-hanging fruit niggas can latch on too.

There's no way I could, in good conscious, vote for a person that did HALF the shit you posted. I wouldn't be able to look my Haitian brothers in the eye. A vote for her is a ringing endorsement of EVERYTHING she's done in her 30 years of public service.

Are you okay with that?

I can see past the thinly-veiled argument of "I'm voting for Hillary, to stop Trump." By that logic, I'm advocating for more cops in inner-city communities to stop black on black crime. Who gives a rat's ass if it leads to MORE pigs killing unarmed black men.

I'm choosing between the lesser of "two evils." More cops=more police shootings, less cops=more black on black crime........

Pick your poison. Isn't that the justification you guys use?

My questions is.......Why even attempt to drink the poison. Common sense says when you have two bad choices, you don't pick any.

Don't vote.

#SitThisOneOut

No drawn out "justifications" are needed. If you make the personal choice not to vote thats your business. Reasons for voting are simple. To actually do something instead of passively doing noting to prevent who you don't want to be in office. Doing nothing would increasing the likelyhood of an outcome that is not in your best interest. Its not brain surgery.Not voting is a non starter. People can try to justify it but its useless. Dont know why people who are not involved in the process think they have anything to say about it. Actually they dont. Not being in the game is nothing. Your not in it. But its all personal preference and choice.

Yes the powers that be do think and know the majority of people is the country are spectacular idiots.

Wouldn't you when both democrat and republican voters go through the same song and dance every election cycle talking change this and change that but end the end always doing the same exact shit but expecting different results.

Which is the definition of insanity. So why wouldn't they think the majority are spectacular fucking idiots?

It could be construed that way if a. I didnt think there was a stark and obvious choice between the candidates (I see clear differences) and b. I expected something different from politicians or Presidents than what they are. I dont expect anyone to save me. Nor do I expect to agree with any of them on everything. Usually I dont vote but this time the choice is so ludicrously clear. The President effects economics and world affairs among other things. It makes a difference who it is thats simply the truth. But thats probably enough political talk from me for the day. Its more of an action thing for me at this point. Anyway we'll see tomorrow...

What are the differences?

 

[xxCivicxx]

@Stiff, Posting all those facts about crooked Hillary, then saying you'll still PROBABLY vote for her is a microcosm of why NEITHER party takes us seriously. You have all the facts in order to make an INFORMED decision. Yet fear, emotion, and irrational assumptions about "doomsday scenarios", IN YOUR MIND about the other candidate make you, and the vast majority of black people to swallow the blue pill.

Throw in some fear, mixed with low-brow pandering ads (Barbershop video) go speak in a black church in the black community. That's the template to herd the black vote like cattle.

Switch up your cadence so your inflection in tone has a tinge of Ebonics in it. Propose shit that you know want get passed (20 billion dollars for HBCU'S) as low-hanging fruit niggas can latch on too.

There's no way I could, in good conscious, vote for a person that did HALF the shit you posted. I wouldn't be able to look my Haitian brothers in the eye. A vote for her is a ringing endorsement of EVERYTHING she's done in her 30 years of public service.

Are you okay with that?

I can see past the thinly-veiled argument of "I'm voting for Hillary, to stop Trump." By that logic, I'm advocating for more cops in inner-city communities to stop black on black crime. Who gives a rat's ass if it leads to MORE pigs killing unarmed black men.

I'm choosing between the lesser of "two evils." More cops=more police shootings, less cops=more black on black crime........

Pick your poison. Isn't that the justification you guys use?

My questions is.......Why even attempt to drink the poison. Common sense says when you have two bad choices, you don't pick any.

Don't vote.

#SitThisOneOut

I didn't even vote for Obama even though I wanted him to win... reasons being 1. I was too lazy and 2. I'm in Cali he was gon win that shit here anyway here.

So realistically after a 10 hour work day I'm sure in the fuck not about to get in line to do it this year either

So granted I'm not the best spokesman for the "get out and vote" crowd.

But encouraging people to "sit this one out" is just as dumb in its own way. This election ain't coming to a halt just because you dont vote.

Yeah they both suck. But one of these crackas is gettin in, regardless. One of these crackas is CLEARLY worse/dumber than the other.

So yeah if any of our people are so inclined to vote, then yeah I do prefer they go with the lesser evil.

Y'all gotta get over this notion that a president is gonna really single out black people for preferential treatment in a country that was built on white supremacy. It will never happen, but there is candidate who is most certainly more detrimental to us as a people than the other.

I ain't gon begrudge my people who want to get out and vote at least for the 3rd party candidate even tho we all know there's no chance there either

Some of these people just dont want her to win and want Trump. Everybody here aint black of course obviously too. Yeah they cant make not voting make sense the attempts to supress the vote for Hillary are useless and insult people's intelligence. We'll see tomorrow. Nonvoters are irrelevant so why talk about and be so interested in something you are not involved in? Doesnt make any sense. They are actually very interested it seems.

@the bold: Remember, you're now complicit in everything that happens in this country for the next 4 years

 

[blackrain]

I've yet to see any viable alternatives as to what exactly not voting will accomplish...and anyone who thinks a Trump presidency wouldn't do far more harm than Hilary is very misinformed. I've yet to see anyone say Hilary is perfect and her flaws are very well known but to pretend as if it will make no difference between her running the country vs Trump is where you expose your own ignorance

 

[D. Morgan]

I've yet to see any viable alternatives as to what exactly not voting will accomplish...and anyone who thinks a Trump presidency wouldn't do far more harm than Hilary is very misinformed. I've yet to see anyone say Hilary is perfect and her flaws are very well known but to pretend as if it will make no difference between her running the country vs Trump is where you expose your own ignorance

What sense does it make to keep going for the status quo?

 

[blackrain]

I've yet to see any viable alternatives as to what exactly not voting will accomplish...and anyone who thinks a Trump presidency wouldn't do far more harm than Hilary is very misinformed. I've yet to see anyone say Hilary is perfect and her flaws are very well known but to pretend as if it will make no difference between her running the country vs Trump is where you expose your own ignorance

What sense does it make to keep going for the status quo?

In any other instance I'm all for challenging the status quo...but when the alternative is 4 years under Trump many find that risk not with taking

 

[D. Morgan]

I've yet to see any viable alternatives as to what exactly not voting will accomplish...and anyone who thinks a Trump presidency wouldn't do far more harm than Hilary is very misinformed. I've yet to see anyone say Hilary is perfect and her flaws are very well known but to pretend as if it will make no difference between her running the country vs Trump is where you expose your own ignorance

What sense does it make to keep going for the status quo?

In any other instance I'm all for challenging the status quo...but when the alternative is 4 years under Trump many find that risk not with taking

Everything doesn't boil back down to Trump.

You or anybody else does have the option to say fuck both parties and vote Jill Stein.

Also sometimes taking a fucked up lose or hit on the chin actually makes shit better when you step back regroup and attack with a better plan.

The bold happens every 4 years which why we the people especially black people keep getting shit all the fucking time.

 

[xxCivicxx]

I've yet to see any viable alternatives as to what exactly not voting will accomplish...and anyone who thinks a Trump presidency wouldn't do far more harm than Hilary is very misinformed. I've yet to see anyone say Hilary is perfect and her flaws are very well known but to pretend as if it will make no difference between her running the country vs Trump is where you expose your own ignorance

What sense does it make to keep going for the status quo?

In any other instance I'm all for challenging the status quo...but when the alternative is 4 years under Trump many find that risk not with taking

Again, your entire argument in favor of hillary has nothing to do with her or her policies

You've been programmed to think trump whenever someone mentions hillary's past

You are literally brainwashed

 

[blackrain]

I've yet to see any viable alternatives as to what exactly not voting will accomplish...and anyone who thinks a Trump presidency wouldn't do far more harm than Hilary is very misinformed. I've yet to see anyone say Hilary is perfect and her flaws are very well known but to pretend as if it will make no difference between her running the country vs Trump is where you expose your own ignorance

What sense does it make to keep going for the status quo?

In any other instance I'm all for challenging the status quo...but when the alternative is 4 years under Trump many find that risk not with taking

Everything doesn't boil back down to Trump.

You or anybody else does have the option to say fuck both parties and vote Jill Stein.

Also sometimes taking a fucked up lose or hit on the chin actually makes shit better when you step back regroup and attack with a better plan.

The bold happens every 4 years which why we the people especially black people keep getting shit all the fucking time.

You're right...there is a third party option and I've long been of the mindset that America's two party system is trash which is why I'm not registered as either democrat or republican but I also know most people don't think like that and for them it's a choice between Clinton or Trump...and if you're asking people to sacrifice 4 years of a shitty president then there needs to be some guarantee that shit will change sooner rather than later which truthfully no presidential candidate can deliver on

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

Vote for someone with no possibility to win man not votin' is mad pointless

 

[Guy Gardner]

people gotta get past this mindset that you have to "like" or even "trust" these elected officials....

i highly doubt we ever get a president we truly like and trust, but we still have a duty to elect one

 

[xxCivicxx]

people gotta get past this mindset that you have to "like" or even "trust" these elected officials....

i highly doubt we ever get a president we truly like and trust, but we still have a duty to elect one

This is a horribly defeatist mindset, the polar opposite of patriotism

 

[Guy Gardner]

people gotta get past this mindset that you have to "like" or even "trust" these elected officials....

i highly doubt we ever get a president we truly like and trust, but we still have a duty to elect one

This is a horribly defeatist mindset, the polar opposite of patriotism

better than being naive and gullible enough to believe the lies they feed you and getting all optimistic about the change they're going to supposedly usher in

 

[blackrain]

I've yet to see any viable alternatives as to what exactly not voting will accomplish...and anyone who thinks a Trump presidency wouldn't do far more harm than Hilary is very misinformed. I've yet to see anyone say Hilary is perfect and her flaws are very well known but to pretend as if it will make no difference between her running the country vs Trump is where you expose your own ignorance

What sense does it make to keep going for the status quo?

In any other instance I'm all for challenging the status quo...but when the alternative is 4 years under Trump many find that risk not with taking

Again, your entire argument in favor of hillary has nothing to do with her or her policies

You've been programmed to think trump whenever someone mentions hillary's past

You are literally brainwashed

You took that one post as my entire argument? That's not very smart of you to do. I haven't laid out any argument actually. Just stated for many sacfricing 4 years under Trump ain't worth it...and people automatically default to Trump because if Hilary doesn't win he will and you're foolish to think otherwise. You're living in a fantasy world if you think Hilary losing means Jill Stein is going to win this late in the game

 

[thegreatunknown]

I've been saying Fuck Hilary Clinton for awhile, I'm glad others realize she's full of shit. Her and Trump are the worst candidates ever...

 

[NoCompetition]

I've yet to see any viable alternatives as to what exactly not voting will accomplish...and anyone who thinks a Trump presidency wouldn't do far more harm than Hilary is very misinformed. I've yet to see anyone say Hilary is perfect and her flaws are very well known but to pretend as if it will make no difference between her running the country vs Trump is where you expose your own ignorance

They have no answer that makes sense. All the reaching and nonsense conjecture will never change the fact that people vote for the option that appears to be in their best interest and against the one thats not. This is an especially easy and clear and impactful choice this time. They always are but this time is amplified. I dont know why nonvoters are even speaking on this. Your irrelevant nobody cares about your opinion. Your nothing to this your like a powerless joke. Your not stopping anyone from doing anything...It doesnt look like these "dont vote" tryhards will be so happy tomorrow. But we'll see then...

 

[NoCompetition]

Anyway ima try to stay out of these discussions as much as I can till tomorrow at least. haha gotta go do some things that oughta pass time.

 

[xxCivicxx]

I've yet to see any viable alternatives as to what exactly not voting will accomplish...and anyone who thinks a Trump presidency wouldn't do far more harm than Hilary is very misinformed. I've yet to see anyone say Hilary is perfect and her flaws are very well known but to pretend as if it will make no difference between her running the country vs Trump is where you expose your own ignorance

What sense does it make to keep going for the status quo?

In any other instance I'm all for challenging the status quo...but when the alternative is 4 years under Trump many find that risk not with taking

Again, your entire argument in favor of hillary has nothing to do with her or her policies

You've been programmed to think trump whenever someone mentions hillary's past

You are literally brainwashed

You took that one post as my entire argument? That's not very smart of you to do. I haven't laid out any argument actually. Just stated for many sacfricing 4 years under Trump ain't worth it...and people automatically default to Trump because if Hilary doesn't win he will and you're foolish to think otherwise. You're living in a fantasy world if you think Hilary losing means Jill Stein is going to win this late in the game

I've asked you across 4 threads now why you blindly support hillary and you haven't answered a single time

So yes, you have been brainwashed into believing trump is the bigger boogeyman when he is not

Again, you've seen many different historical facts concerning hillary's behavior and you ignored it all because again, you have been programmed into a hillary extremist

 

[xxCivicxx]

people gotta get past this mindset that you have to "like" or even "trust" these elected officials....

i highly doubt we ever get a president we truly like and trust, but we still have a duty to elect one

This is a horribly defeatist mindset, the polar opposite of patriotism

better than being naive and gullible enough to believe the lies they feed you and getting all optimistic about the change they're going to supposedly usher in

But you are naive and gullible though, because you think politicians are supposed to be corrupt liars

They are they way because the people allow it

 

[the dukester]

Don't usually agree with Stephan A. Smith on much, but he's spot on with this.

 

[NoCompetition]

I've yet to see any viable alternatives as to what exactly not voting will accomplish...and anyone who thinks a Trump presidency wouldn't do far more harm than Hilary is very misinformed. I've yet to see anyone say Hilary is perfect and her flaws are very well known but to pretend as if it will make no difference between her running the country vs Trump is where you expose your own ignorance

What sense does it make to keep going for the status quo?

In any other instance I'm all for challenging the status quo...but when the alternative is 4 years under Trump many find that risk not with taking

Again, your entire argument in favor of hillary has nothing to do with her or her policies

You've been programmed to think trump whenever someone mentions hillary's past

You are literally brainwashed

You took that one post as my entire argument? That's not very smart of you to do. I haven't laid out any argument actually. Just stated for many sacfricing 4 years under Trump ain't worth it...and people automatically default to Trump because if Hilary doesn't win he will and you're foolish to think otherwise. You're living in a fantasy world if you think Hilary losing means Jill Stein is going to win this late in the game

I've asked you across 4 threads now why you blindly support hillary and you haven't answered a single time

So yes, you have been brainwashed into believing trump is the bigger boogeyman when he is not

Again, you've seen many different historical facts concerning hillary's behavior and you ignored it all because again, you have been programmed into a hillary extremist

He's explicitly said people arent blindly supporting her. In clear terms. They just see her as the better option considering there are 2 choices. Lets be real thats the reality of the situation. Of the 2 choices there are people who, for good reason, believe she will be better. Its as simple as that. You dont have to agree with someone on everything to think they are better for the job. Anyway im out for the time being...