Aside from Eminem, why don't other white rappers sell good?

[Treize117]

Eminem sells because he's white, has elite (as in top 5) level skills, and a style that is different from everyone else in hip hop. Mentioning some no name ass white rappers is a moot point...if no one knows who they are then that is reason enough to say they are lacking something significant. That goes for any rapper, or artist in general.

 

[Ant4523]

Because they can't write songs like him why is this thread even still open??.........

 

[mattee c]

Paul Wall might as well be Black, him and Cham' were joined at the hip for years up untill their beef, and then he was rollin with Swisha-house everyday after that, he didnt shit on Black women he got MARRIED to a black woman. He's what I call a white-soul-brother, he just naturally exudes the soul of our culture without trying to. Emenim dosent have that, but he compensates for it with comedy.

You never heard Fat Joe or BiG Pun whining about being latin rappers in a Black mans industry because they are so immersed in Black culture that most people view them as being insiders and not outsiders. Fat Joe is a nigga, D.J. Khaled is a nigga...its how you carry yourself and represent.

I'll cosign the part about Paul Wall. When you put it that way, it makes sense as to why he doesn't address race in his music. He himself admits his music is all about cars, money, hoes, jewelry, etc., nothing political. So I guess it's kinda irrelevant to mention race in his music. Same could be said for Lil Wyte. As for the Fat Joe / Big Pun / DJ Khaled comparison, that's completely different. Latinos have been involved with hip-hop since it's creation in The Bronx. So it really wouldn't be historically correct to say their experience was the same as whites. What I mean is, only people who don't know their history would ever consider Latinos "outsiders" as far as rap goes. But you couldn't say the same for whites, because the credibility of white rappers, though still shakey, has only been recently restored because of people like Eminem, Paul Wall, Bubba Sparxxx, Lil Wyte, Mike Dean, etc. For years after Vanilla Ice, labels would not touch a white rapper. He basically cancelled out everything the Beastie Boys had accomplished. I do agree that ultimately, the way you carry yourself has more to do with how much respect you receive than your race does.

 

[UK_FTW]

paul wall might as well be black, him and cham' were joined at the hip for years up untill their beef, and then he was rollin with swisha-house everyday after that, he didnt shit on black women he got married to a black woman. He's what i call a white-soul-brother, he just naturally exudes the soul of our culture without trying to. emenim dosent have that, but he compensates for it with comedy.

You never heard fat joe or big pun whining about being latin rappers in a black mans industry because they are so immersed in black culture that most people view them as being insiders and not outsiders. fat joe is a nigga, d.j. Khaled is a nigga...its how you carry yourself and represent.

well said tbh

 

[b@squ1@t redux]

theres this white guy i know from brooklyn who finished a manslaughter bid and is actually gangsta. has a few "F's" on his report card. imma teach that niggah how to rap be his manager and everybody would cop his shit cuz hes white and street. Once we was in the pj's to visite his baby mom with his brother and he got mad that his baby mother was not home and was out with her new bf. he kept cursing saying imma kill this nigga this and that. his brother said he gotta tone done keep saying nigga so much cause there were black people around the pj park. he just said "i dont give a fuck". no one did shit. imma teach that nigga how to rap and get it rollin

i just felt like quotin a trill ass post

so i did

 

[UK_FTW]

Will always maintain that when it comes 2 the knuckle game and generally being wild

white guys >>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Dre cosign and coon black people respect him aka the majority of black people, despite the whole racist tapes thing, and the fact that he's an average rapper in terms of actual skill.

 

[nynicca]

Will always maintain that when it comes 2 the knuckle game and generally being wild

white guys >>>>>>>>>>>>

lol even though drakes only half white i said he'll whip that bitch beans ass because imma keep it real street dudes cant fight i seen this white average acting cat whip a street dudes ass

 

[nynicca]

i just felt like quotin a trill ass post

so i did

white dude got tatoos on his neck and tear drops on his face heard his knuckle games crazy

 

[hrap-120]

I'll cosign the part about Paul Wall. When you put it that way, it makes sense as to why he doesn't address race in his music. He himself admits his music is all about cars, money, hoes, jewelry, etc., nothing political. So I guess it's kinda irrelevant to mention race in his music. Same could be said for Lil Wyte. As for the Fat Joe / Big Pun / DJ Khaled comparison, that's completely different. Latinos have been involved with hip-hop since it's creation in The Bronx. So it really wouldn't be historically correct to say their experience was the same as whites. What I mean is, only people who don't know their history would ever consider Latinos "outsiders" as far as rap goes. But you couldn't say the same for whites, because the credibility of white rappers, though still shakey, has only been recently restored because of people like Eminem, Paul Wall, Bubba Sparxxx, Lil Wyte, Mike Dean, etc. For years after Vanilla Ice, labels would not touch a white rapper. He basically cancelled out everything the Beastie Boys had accomplished. I do agree that ultimately, the way you carry yourself has more to do with how much respect you receive than your race does.

The label heads learned alot of valuable lessons from the Vanilla Ice fiasco. Success hinges on multiple factors and carefully executed timing, almost as much as the music. The proper background story and co-signing from an already established artist is essential too.

 

[theillestrator]

you ever think that perhaps it's more than his skin color?

 

[dj expanium]

Because they can't write songs like him why is this thread even still open??.........

Pop songs, Yes, that's not what their aim is.

The main reason eminem sells over the others is because he has dre and he has skills. But he sells gigantic numbers because hes white

100% Totally right and his sound is light enough for the radio airwaves.

Being white plays a part but eminem has the talent to actually create hit songs...there are a host of white rappers who are damn good on the mic, just spittin and being lyrical, but they can't actually make SONGS.

RA the Rugged Man, Cage, Slaine, Copywright, etc. are ill RAPPERS....but eminem is an ARTIST.

The Dre co-sign im sure helped, but not as much as some may think.

He has the ability to create "Hot 100 Pop songs." To say other white rappers are only capable of spittin' and being lyrical without making songs with meaning, just shows that your ignorance is equivalent to someone saying there's no better black rapper than Lil Wayne.

 

[Capo1]

Pop songs, Yes, that's not what their aim is.

100% Totally right and his sound is light enough for the radio airwaves.

He has the ability to create "Hot 100 Pop songs." To say other white rappers are only capable of spittin' and being lyrical without making songs with meaning, just shows that your ignorance is equivalent to someone saying there's no better black rapper than Lil Wayne.

Damn you're a confused soul...and your comprehension skills are lacking.

When I talk about songs, Im not just alluding to tracks such as "The Real Slim Shady." Im referring to "Sing For the Moment," "Til I Collapse", "Rock Bottom," or even "Changes" off Recovery. Lyrical masterpieces that also have a message and relevant content. 90% of underground rappers can't do this....

 

[weezyfgarbage]

I haven't heard an Eminem song on the radio ever in my life...maybe I'm just not listening to the right stations? Z100, KTU, Power 105, Hot 97, 92.3 Now

 

[hrap-120]

you ever think that perhaps it's more than his skin color?

His skin color is his greatest marketing tool, its what connects him with the buying demographic, and it dosent hurt to be side by side with the biggest name producer in the history of rap music.

 

[theillestrator]

His skin color is his greatest marketing tool, its what connects him with the buying demographic, and it dosent hurt to be side by side with the biggest name producer in the history of rap music.

thanks i'm quite aware of this. i asked "you ever think that perhaps it's more than his skin color?" kind of meaning in addition to

 

[supersajinfo]

Because how many white boys do you know who rap, the issue i have at hand with Em's fans and numbers are; alot of Eminem fans will listen to him and no other rappers. Alot of them look at black rappers as being violent and materialistic

Thank you any white fan of Em will usually say this shit talking he doesn't rap about stuff " the other" rappers about.

 

[bankrupt baller]

I haven't heard an Eminem song on the radio ever in my life...maybe I'm just not listening to the right stations? Z100, KTU, Power 105, Hot 97, 92.3 Now

lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[nynicca]

Eminem sells what he sells because he's white. However, even though i think he might be racist, eminem is the best rapper to do it

 

[hrap-120]

thanks i'm quite aware of this. i asked "you ever think that perhaps it's more than his skin color?" kind of meaning in addition to

..yes it it dosent hurt to be side by side with the biggest name producer in the history of rap music.