The Lonious Monk;c-10022483 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10022472 said:The Lonious Monk;c-10022022 said:Madame_CJSkywalker;c-10021766 said:im not comparing black males privilege to white male privilege
and no, a person's blackness doesn't totally cancel out the privilege of being born a man in america
it starts from a young age. just think how boy toys typically encourage children to imagine a far greater range of career possibilities and tend to be more educational...while toys considered “girl’s toys” are often limited to beauty, housework and childcare
adults compliment boys more for their abilities rather than their your looks opposed to girls. you’re not taught from a young age that your value is only as good as your appearance. that continues well into adulthood
ppl are more likely to respect your bodily autonomy. women's reproductive rights are always up for debate. and as a man being harassed or sexually assaulted is not a big concern. you can fuck, suck and do whatever without being judged and policed to the same degree as a woman
and no having one type of privilege doesn’t mean you’re not oppressed in other ways
like poor white folk, for example. just because they struggle financially due in great part to classism doesn't mean that they don't also benefit from being white
for example, blk men are still more likely to earn money than blk women, despite blk women obtaining more college degrees. blk men are promoted more often than blk women. blk men get higher pay rates than their black female counterparts who are equally skilled
the fastest growing incarceration rate is blk women. yet we tend to make the issue of incarceration solely male, because we haven't thought seriously about whats happening with blk girls
we joke if obama was a few shades darker he wouldn't have won the presidency, but if he were a blk woman you'd think he would have won? no lol
and again one type of privilege doesn’t mean you’re not oppressed in other ways
that said, so this isn't just me playing the oppression olympics. what i'm always argued is our societal expectations of women and men, social conditioning and even our legislative system all work to sustain this construct that places men (specifically white, middle/upper class, straight men) on top....
You still drumming out antiquated shit.
There are lots of girl toys nowadays that fit the bill for what you're talking about. And they aren't hard to find. I don't buy my girls beauty oriented shit. They doctors bags, scientist kits, explorer sets, etc... The beauty shit is still there, but to act like that's all that's available for girls is disingenuous. Meanwhile, if you go to the boys section, it's still heavily sports and action figure oriented, so I'd say the amount of substance is about equal for both genders.
I'll give you girls being complimented more for their looks. But girls get told their smart or praised when they are good at other things too.
Yes, poor whites struggle, but the privilege is that their struggle isn't usually as bad as the struggle of poor blacks. You can't say that black females struggle more than black males, so that comparison doesn't hold. Again, if black males have some privilege they are lording over females, then we'd see some quantifiable proof of it, but there is none.
lol Ok, the black female rate is the fastest growing. You'd have to basically multiply your incarceration numbers by a factor of 10 before you were catching up to black males, so black males still should be the poster children of the horrors of the criminal justice system. It's not about ignoring black females, it's about prioritizing based on who is being hurt the most. And men in general have it way worse in this area than any women, even black women.
Abortion is always up for debate because it's not just a women's right issue no matter how much you feminist want to classify it as that. You're talking about another human's life. Ignoring that is frankly disgusting. Even if you believe in abortion, at least have the decency to acknowledge that were not just talking about woman's body. We're talking about the life that she carries inside that body and what is done with it.
You going to have to show me some numbers backing the claim about that pay inequality you're talking about because 1) you chicks are good for misrepresenting wage data and 2) the most recent number I've seen say that black women are earning more than black men now.
I'll give you Obama probably not winning if he was a woman.
Anyway, I acknowledge that on a small scale you probably can find advantages that black men have over black women, but there are also advantages black women have over black women (criminal justice system, family court, university admissions, etc...) So again, it's ridiculous for black women to constantly harp black men exerting some kind of oppressive privilege over them.
In concerns to the abortion debate, i believe not only in the value of life itself but also in the quality of life
To me it is disgusting to force a child into this world who is unwanted. Then what of the women and girls who have died and will die getting back alley abortions or attempt a home remedy? Because that it the alternative. History has shown us regardless of the law women will find a way
U right though the abortion debate with probably go on forever and not without good reason. For some ppl a life hangs in the balance
I'll only add not every one believes life starts at conception. The medical community nor most religions are in agreement or have a good answer
I was more so referring to the ppl who oppose abortion simply to spite women and or because they feel as though its an insult to male authority. Yes these ppl exist
And we cannot underestimate the social and economic benefits of women’s ability to plan whether and when to have children
I have no problem with that. I don't like abortion, but I'm not completely against it due to the reasons you mentioned. I just don't like when feminists act like the only reason to oppose abortion is to push some patriarchal agenda.
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You're a glutton for punishment bruh.
Don't know how you do it.
I tried for a long time, but I'm Cutty status with her now:
