Are women the root of all evil and problems

[Colin$mackabi$h]

lol men lead our country right now

and unemployment is.........

And there are ______ wars

and people are oh so extremely happy with their lives

lol yea you logical men sound really logical right now

especially when you tried to argue the men are more rational and less emotional yet they just "happen" to get emotional and irrational when it comes to women

idk about you but if a person loses their mind over everytime they encounter the opposite sex which is literally one half of the entire population

i wouldn't classify them as rational, or sane for that matter

right now the only one sounding logical is legal tender and thats because he doesn't get emotional and shit like the rest of you niggas

blaming gender for behaviors is no where near rational

.....and a low blow from haute, she just may win it all!

 

[Ioniz3dSPIRITZ]

Regardless of what women or feminists say, THE MATRIARCHY THAT BLACKS HAVE ADOPTED IN THE U.S. since 1970 HAS NOT WORKED OVERALL. It just has not.

They control the majority of homes and have done so since 1970.

The courts are on their side.

Government aid is on their side.

Mentor-ship is on their side.

College & University Education is on their side (they also do well as licensees.)

Their income is growing (white males are responsible for the disparity, not black males.)

Their businesses are growing.

Their lack of representation in film and music videos is again the white man's fault, not ours.

Their sexual freedom has been pronounced and increasing since 1970.

Black women have killed way more African Americans through abortion than all the black males or racists could ever do and they don't catch any flack for that. Half of our population is gone and never coming back.

White males, white women and fatherless homes are the core root of this problem. Our matriarchy in Africa and over here before whites worked great. Whites fucked it all up. We have to rework the matriarchy in this era.

Those who still follow patriarchy are still doing fine. Nevertheless, black women are STILL THE DIVINE FEMININE WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, WE JUST HAVE TO TWEAK THE SYSTEM AND MANY BLACK MALES AND FEMALES WILL NOT MAKE IT TO THE FINISH LINE WITH US.

Casualties of war.

No doubt the matriarch hasn't worked for black Americans. And if the matriarch was in full operation in the motherland back when (which I doubt) it certainly didnt work there either.
But this last part got me. It seems like you denounce matriarchy but praise it at the same time. So you....as a grown ass man are perfectly fine with being led my a women??

 

[Ioniz3dSPIRITZ]

*sighs* you dudes have no idea what feminism is. you just fling that word around outta convenience. stop trying to define women and what it mean. it aint your place nor do you know. Behavior is not gender specific.

thank you deserttrain. I pity these dudes

again you way of thinking is feminist. You said women are "true" leaders and threw all black men under the bus by saying were unfit to lead. Your done. case closed. Once again fuck you, your attitude, and your feminist bullshit.

 

[Ioniz3dSPIRITZ]

lol men lead our country right now

and unemployment is.........

and there are ______ wars

and people are oh so extremely happy with their lives

lol yea you logical men sound really logical right now

especially when you tried to argue the men are more rational and less emotional yet they just "happen" to get emotional and irrational when it comes to women

idk about you but if a person loses their mind over the opposite sex which is literally one half of the entire population

I wouldn't classify them as rational, or sane for that matter

right now the only one sounding logical is legal tender and thats because he doesn't get emotional and shit like the rest of you niggas

blaming gender for behaviors is no where near rational

And without men you wouldn't even have the liberty to spew this rhetoric right now. Assume your role as a women and be satisfied with it. Stop trying to cross rocky and impassable boundaries.

 

[musicology1985]

No doubt the matriarch hasn't worked for black Americans. And if the matriarch was in full operation in the motherland back when (which I doubt) it certainly didnt work there either.
But this last part got me. It seems like you denounce matriarchy but praise it at the same time. So you....as a grown ass man are perfectly fine with being led my a women??

The matriarch worked very well in Africa for a very long time. Thousands of years to be specific. I'm not saying that men in those societies weren't doing what we typically do, but the judgment of black women as a whole was a lot better, because there was no dictating influence from white men & women. So yes, I am in favor of it in some cases but not in this case (1970-2010 United States.) This new era will see the end of that broken system.

Keep in mind that patriarchy has worked and still works too. Both systems suit us if done right. As far as Haute, her rhetoric comes from the template that whites have laid down anyway. Don't sweat that stuff man.

 

[haute]

And without men you wouldn't even have the liberty to spew this rhetoric right now. Assume your role as a women and be satisfied with it. Stop trying to cross rocky and impassable boundaries.

notice how logical this response is................

thanks for proving my point

 

[musicology1985]

Keep in mind that the term "battle of the sexes" is real. That is exactly what this is. The corporate & educated women can work with you or against you depending on your ability to navigate and play chess. The same applies to hood chicks.

Now that's all I have to say about it. Carry on.

 

[Ioniz3dSPIRITZ]

The matriarch worked very well in Africa for a very long time. Thousands of years to be specific. I'm not saying that men in those societies weren't doing what we typically do, but the judgment of black women as a whole was a lot better, because there was no dictating influence from white men & women. So yes, I am in favor of it in some cases but not in this case (1970-2010 United States.) This new era will see the end of that broken system.

Keep in mind that patriarchy has worked and still works too. Both systems suit us if done right. As far as Haute, her rhetoric comes from the template that whites have laid down anyway. Don't sweat that stuff man.

Then can you agree that it was perhaps the conditions of the matriarch in Africa that made it possible for us to be enslaved.

 

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[musicology1985]

Then can you agree that it was perhaps the conditions of the matriarch in Africa that made it possible for us to be enslaved.

No, it was the Moorish infighting in Spain which led to the Reconquista & Capitulation of territories in 1492 AD, which in turn lead to the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade that did us in on the West Side of Africa and the Americas. But we will be back on point soon enough.

Peace.

 

[So ILL]

No, insecure-ass dudes are.......these females ain't going nowhere

 

[musicology1985]

we each play our roles. we allow ourselves to be taken advantage of.

In the end, we all have our own private agendas,, be it noble or otherwise. you all need to quit forgetting that all humans are inherently evil. stop trying to pin it to one group.

I missed this post and it's a great one. The only reason why I said that blacks are the root of good and evil is because none of these situations, peoples or things would exist without certain judgments that we made on a global level in the past. We blame whites NOW but it was us who put them in position to do this while many if not most of us fight to maintain it. And even after them there will be blacks fighting for good and evil like always with a neutral element. That's just the way it's designed.

And there are millions if not billions of humans who are not inherently evil.

Edit: Let me rephrase that. There are at least millions of us humans scattered across the world that are not inherently evil. At least I hope there is. I know I'm not as well as some others. But we can flip that evil card if we have to (which we often do.)

 

[desertrain10]

Regardless of what women or feminists say, THE MATRIARCHY THAT BLACKS HAVE ADOPTED IN THE U.S. since 1970 HAS NOT WORKED OVERALL. It just has not.

They control the majority of homes and have done so since 1970.

The courts are on their side.

Government aid is on their side.

Mentor-ship is on their side.

College & University Education is on their side (they also do well as licensees.)

Their income is growing (white males are responsible for the disparity, not black males.)

Their businesses are growing.

Their lack of representation in film and music videos is again the white man's fault, not ours.

Their sexual freedom has been pronounced and increasing since 1970.

Black women have killed way more African Americans through abortion than all the black males or racists could ever do and they don't catch any flack for that. Half of our population is gone and never coming back.

White males, white women and fatherless homes are the core root of this problem. Our matriarchy in Africa and over here before whites worked great. Whites fucked it all up. We have to rework the matriarchy in this era.

Those who still follow patriarchy are still doing fine. Nevertheless, black women are STILL THE DIVINE FEMININE WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, WE JUST HAVE TO TWEAK THE SYSTEM AND MANY BLACK MALES AND FEMALES WILL NOT MAKE IT TO THE FINISH LINE WITH US.

Casualties of war.

matriarchal families have been part of the black community now and throughout history. back in the 50's black women where still holding down there families with little to no help from a man. female-headed households did not come to be in the hip hop generation. and they are not the root cause of the community’s problems so stop blaming feminism. unequal access to opportunity, healthcare, childcare, housing and education is the real problem. the persistent attack on the middle class and the poor is the real problem. racism and sexism are the real problems. the constant focus on black women’s role in families and in male-female relationships is a vestige of persistent sexism in the larger and black communities and the only reason why black women and our choices became the problem is because our lives in this country have not and do not follow the patriarchal pattern that we are told is “right.”.... there was never this "golden age" of wealth and prosperity for blacks in this country.... wake up

let’s not sit here pretend that there aren’t real societal forces pushing against the success of women and people of color and poor people

 

[musicology1985]

matriarchal families have been part of the black community now and throughout history. back in the 50's black women where still holding down there families with little to no help from a man. female-headed households did not come to be in the hip hop generation. and they are not the root cause of the community’s problems so stop blaming feminism. unequal access to opportunity, healthcare, childcare, housing and education is the real problem. the persistent attack on the middle class and the poor is the real problem. racism and sexism are the real problems. the constant focus on black women’s role in families and in male-female relationships is a vestige of persistent sexism in the larger and black communities and the only reason why black women and our choices became the problem is because our lives in this country have not and do not follow the patriarchal pattern that we are told is “right.”.... there was never this "golden age" of wealth and prosperity for blacks in this country.... wake up

let’s not sit here pretend that there aren’t real societal forces pushing against the success of women and people of color and poor people

Naw I disagree. The patriarchy was very strong in the 30's, 40's, 50's and all the way up into the late 60's before it completely fell off in the 70's and 80's, therefore leaving a huge vacuum in the 90's and 00's.

As far as the rest I can dig it. My grandfathers and great grandfathers held shit down and half owned businesses in their community which are now run by west and east Asians. This is the story of black America.

I rep the ground zero generation and we have to get back.

Edit: Oh yeah, IT'S STILL FUCK FEMINISM.

 

[desertrain10]

Naw I disagree. The patriarchy was very strong in the 30's, 40's, 50's and all the way up into the late 60's before it completely fell off in the 70's and 80's, therefore leaving a huge vacuum in the 90's and 00's.

As far as the rest I can dig it. My grandfathers and great grandfathers held shit down and half owned businesses in their community which are now run by west and east Asians. This is the story of black America.

I rep the ground zero generation and we have to get back.

Edit: Oh yeah, IT'S STILL FUCK FEMINISM.

well we will have to agree to disagree

the continuous assault on the middle class and unions, which began in the 70s, has hurt every sector of society including black people more than anything. it just hit us worst because we live in a white supremacist society. you can't blame feminism or black women...just look at what feminism has done to the white and wealthy....nothing.
they still are still living it up while we little people continue to concern ourselves everything but reality. feminism is just an scapegoat.... you can continue to chase patriarchy, but black men will always slam into the wall of white supremacy which associates them with “other,” and not man.

remember jim crow was an entire system built on the viewing of blacks as inferior even black men. and look at the the criminal justice system today it also shows what patriarchy in a white racist society does to black men. in their pursuit of patriarchal power, many black men turn to a life of crime, and that usually ends with them becoming slaves of a white racist society that punishes them unfairly for pursuing the same patriarchal power that white men do all the time.

and look at the middle east another historically patriarchal society..... them niggas aren't doing so good. and its not because men run the show and women don't, but it's because of complacence, greed and political corruption.

the black men should seek not to rule the black woman or bail out on her, but work in conjunction with the black woman, respecting her as equal and ally

 

[JadaRoss]

Women destroyed the world

 

[VulcanRaven]

Women aint shit.

 

[Real Lady]

r u gay? Because today down low faggyism is the root of evil and problems. Too many men are pretending to be straight when they are not.

 

[garv]

Lol you mean your mother aint shit, niggas are far to eager to share their anti women sentiment on the ic.

 

[garv]

^ He meant 2 say he mother ain't shit, pay him no attention its a harsh world for a ugly nigga.