Are Liberals Really As Phony As They Seem, Or Do They Actually Care?

[Copper]

This is the equivalent of standing in your living room wondering if you were charged appropriately on your cable bill while your house is on fire.

Is it an issue? Sure

Does it make sense to address it now? Fuck no

 

[SolemnSauce]

All these labels are bullshit, anyone who makes up their mind before they hear the facts on something, based on political alignments. Is a phony and a idiot. We need to stop giving idiots our attention.

 

[D. Morgan]

The Wolf or The Fox.

 

[AggieLean.]

I'll like know if you cats are even outraged or concerned about a conservative aka white supremacist like Steve Bannon being appointed the top seat on the National Security Council....?

Any comments about this??

Or we should ignore that and focus on rather liberals are...um... genuine

Man, that's all that been talked about on here since Trump took over as president. You questioning whether folks are outraged or concerned is funny. Yea, were concerned and outraged.

Besides this thread, there hasn't been much focus on liberals. Y'all get upset when people talk about your party in the slightest.

What purpose would there be to shifting focus to liberals at the moment?

1. Obviously it's not shifting focus, as this thread won't have much traffic; atleast in comparison to threads that go over what Trumps doing. As long as Trump keeps doing what he does, liberals or the questioning of liberals will never be the main focus.

2. The thread creator had a question/concern. More than one issue can be talked about at a time. As far as purpose; it's clearly stated in the thread title. As for why at this moment? Why not? If not now, when? Trump isn't going to stop being Trump, so according to you, does he need to wait 4-8 years to ask this?

 

[LUClEN]

A burqa isn't a "hat," and putting your hands on people is assault. So yeah women being assaulted for being Muslim should be a big deal.

Not as big a deal as black folks getting gunned down by the very same public servants they pay to protect them

Not even fucking close.

 

[5th Letter]

So the entire front page should be about only talking about Trump? No one is "shifting focus" that would be the case if this was a Trump thread and someone came in here and deflected into a what about the liberals.

 

[Copper]

I'll like know if you cats are even outraged or concerned about a conservative aka white supremacist like Steve Bannon being appointed the top seat on the National Security Council....?

Any comments about this??

Or we should ignore that and focus on rather liberals are...um... genuine

Man, that's all that been talked about on here since Trump took over as president. You questioning whether folks are outraged or concerned is funny. Yea, were concerned and outraged.

Besides this thread, there hasn't been much focus on liberals. Y'all get upset when people talk about your party in the slightest.

What purpose would there be to shifting focus to liberals at the moment?

1. Obviously it's not shifting focus, as this thread won't have much traffic; atleast in comparison to threads that go over what Trumps doing. As long as Trump keeps doing what he does, liberals or the questioning of liberals will never be the main focus.

2. The thread creator had a question/concern. More than one issue can be talked about at a time. As far as purpose; it's clearly stated in the thread title. As for why at this moment? Why not? If not now, when? Trump isn't going to stop being Trump, so according to you, does he need to wait 4-8 years to ask this?

So what are we not focusing onat the moment that liberals arent doing for black people right now ( mind you thier not in power )

 

[fortyacres]

The way people are apply the word liberal in this thread is similar to how they apply gay/homosexual.

like they are a different race , when most people under the age of 40 Black or White are "Liberal".

lol a black "liberal" person also does not care about your kind of black person ? so does that mean a conservative black person cares or is genuine/not phony ?

 

[(Nope)]

Fuck liberals!

But...

Fuck all you lames who weren't ready to make a pragmatic decision and decided to stand on your morals. You were distracted while hateful and regressive whites voted in droves, now Orange Hitler is in office.

When one considers the lesser of evils argument and abstains from the vote or votes for the candidate with no shot at winning, you are also choosing the inevitable evil that follows. What's more, you were self indulgent about the shit and are being proven wrong at every pass.

Trump is a week into this shit and is proving to be worse than almost anyone imagined.

It's okay not to be friends with your politicians or even respect them, but for every step we took forward, we are now taking ten in the opposite direction. Sometimes incremental change is a choice we make so we can keep our footing and accrue more bargaining power.

 

[5th Letter]

The way people are apply the word liberal in this thread is similar to how they apply gay/homosexual.

like they are a different race , when most people under the age of 40 Black or White are "Liberal".

lol a black "liberal" person also does no care about your kind of black person ? so does that mean a conservative black person cares or is genuine/not phony ?

I was specific I said white liberals.

 

[fortyacres]

The way people are apply the word liberal in this thread is similar to how they apply gay/homosexual.

like they are a different race , when most people under the age of 40 Black or White are "Liberal".

lol a black "liberal" person also does no care about your kind of black person ? so does that mean a conservative black person cares or is genuine/not phony ?

I was specific I said white liberals.

what is the difference between a black liberal and a white liberal ?

 

[Go figure]

Fuck liberals!

But...

Fuck all you lames who weren't ready to make a pragmatic decision and decided to stand on your morals. You were distracted while hateful and regressive whites voted in droves, now Orange Hitler is in office.

When one considers the lesser of evils argument and abstains from the vote or votes for the candidate with no shot at winning, you are also choosing the inevitable evil that follows. What's more, you were self indulgent about the shit and are being proven wrong at every pass.

Trump is a week into this shit and is proving to be worse than almost anyone imagined.

It's okay not to be friends with your politicians or even respect them, but for every step we took forward, we are now taking ten in the opposite direction. Sometimes incremental change is a choice we make so we can keep our footing and accrue more bargaining power.

"The lesser of two evils" is subjective is it not? A white, conservative racist who voted for Trump believes he voted for the lesser of two evils. The fact that u voted for Hillary means u can no longer complain about a corrupt politician in office, because u willingly voted for one yourself.

 

[5th Letter]

The way people are apply the word liberal in this thread is similar to how they apply gay/homosexual.

like they are a different race , when most people under the age of 40 Black or White are "Liberal".

lol a black "liberal" person also does no care about your kind of black person ? so does that mean a conservative black person cares or is genuine/not phony ?

I was specific I said white liberals.

what is the difference between a black liberal and a white liberal ?

I don't trust them because they say slick shit and plenty times they're quiet when shit affects black people.

 

[Kat]

The way people are apply the word liberal in this thread is similar to how they apply gay/homosexual.

like they are a different race , when most people under the age of 40 Black or White are "Liberal".

lol a black "liberal" person also does no care about your kind of black person ? so does that mean a conservative black person cares or is genuine/not phony ?

I was specific I said white liberals.

what is the difference between a black liberal and a white liberal ?

I don't trust them because they say slick shit and plenty times they're quiet when shit affects black people.

Well with theads like these, you can imagine why some might be hesitant to speak up. Its almost a lose-lose situation.

That said, plenty of white people advocate and are marching right along with black people. Don't discredit them.

 

[5th Letter]

The way people are apply the word liberal in this thread is similar to how they apply gay/homosexual.

like they are a different race , when most people under the age of 40 Black or White are "Liberal".

lol a black "liberal" person also does no care about your kind of black person ? so does that mean a conservative black person cares or is genuine/not phony ?

I was specific I said white liberals.

what is the difference between a black liberal and a white liberal ?

I don't trust them because they say slick shit and plenty times they're quiet when shit affects black people.

Well with theads like these, you can imagine why some might be hesitant to speak up. Its almost a lose-lose situation.

That said, plenty of white people advocate and are marching right along with black people. Don't discredit them.

I'm talking about the white liberals who are always silent when things happen to black people. The white liberals who sound like white supremacists when we speak about our issues. If none of these apply to you then I'm not talking about/to you.

 

[Kat]

Oh I know you're not referring to me, that didn't cross my mind at all.

My point is that sometimes when a white person tries to speak up or unite, there are those that want to question their intent or authenticity. That might discourage some from wanting to speak up at all.

If a white person with good intent says some white shit, don't write them off, educate them. It's those with the good intent that will actually be willing to listen and be educated.

This is crucial. No one group is going to get shit done on their own. We have to do it together.

 

[(Nope)]

Fuck liberals!

But...

Fuck all you lames who weren't ready to make a pragmatic decision and decided to stand on your morals. You were distracted while hateful and regressive whites voted in droves, now Orange Hitler is in office.

When one considers the lesser of evils argument and abstains from the vote or votes for the candidate with no shot at winning, you are also choosing the inevitable evil that follows. What's more, you were self indulgent about the shit and are being proven wrong at every pass.

Trump is a week into this shit and is proving to be worse than almost anyone imagined.

It's okay not to be friends with your politicians or even respect them, but for every step we took forward, we are now taking ten in the opposite direction. Sometimes incremental change is a choice we make so we can keep our footing and accrue more bargaining power.

"The lesser of two evils" is subjective is it not? A white, conservative racist who voted for Trump believes he voted for the lesser of two evils. The fact that u voted for Hillary means u can no longer complain about a corrupt politician in office, because u willingly voted for one yourself.

And you chose to sit this one out, so you could take a moral high-ground that doesn't exist.

Answer this question: will more people suffer under Trump than would have suffered under Hillary? That shit was harm-reduction. You can spin it all you want, but we now have a dictator as the leader of the free world.

 

[Go figure]

Fuck liberals!

But...

Fuck all you lames who weren't ready to make a pragmatic decision and decided to stand on your morals. You were distracted while hateful and regressive whites voted in droves, now Orange Hitler is in office.

When one considers the lesser of evils argument and abstains from the vote or votes for the candidate with no shot at winning, you are also choosing the inevitable evil that follows. What's more, you were self indulgent about the shit and are being proven wrong at every pass.

Trump is a week into this shit and is proving to be worse than almost anyone imagined.

It's okay not to be friends with your politicians or even respect them, but for every step we took forward, we are now taking ten in the opposite direction. Sometimes incremental change is a choice we make so we can keep our footing and accrue more bargaining power.

"The lesser of two evils" is subjective is it not? A white, conservative racist who voted for Trump believes he voted for the lesser of two evils. The fact that u voted for Hillary means u can no longer complain about a corrupt politician in office, because u willingly voted for one yourself.

And you chose to sit this one out, so you could take a moral high-ground that doesn't exist.

Answer this question: will more people suffer under Trump than would have suffered under Hillary? That shit was harm-reduction. You can spin it all you want, but we now have a dictator as the leader of the free world.

Please give me your estimates on how many people would/wouldnt have suffered under Hillary....use as much speculation and assumption as necessary and lets compare it to Trump.

Random hypotheticals that fit your narrative are also allowed.

 

[fortyacres]

The way people are apply the word liberal in this thread is similar to how they apply gay/homosexual.

like they are a different race , when most people under the age of 40 Black or White are "Liberal".

lol a black "liberal" person also does no care about your kind of black person ? so does that mean a conservative black person cares or is genuine/not phony ?

I was specific I said white liberals.

what is the difference between a black liberal and a white liberal ?

I don't trust them because they say slick shit and plenty times they're quiet when shit affects black people.

firstly nobody owes you shit , its your duty to stand up for black people/issues/plight not white people.

second where is the proof of them be quiet when it comes to the black plight ? (i just think they don't respond in a manner that is satisfactory to some and there is no real answer to that, because even those that do get criticized lol)

now if you feel people are not doing enough thats a separate issue we can discuss this , you could also argue that some black (liberals/independents/conservatives) do nothing for themselves or others and resign themselves from doing anything because they feel by being born black and inherited history it gives them license to sit on the sidelines and point fingers, like they have earned that right because of legacy.

I think there is no satisfactory way of White people proving that they love Black people or want to help black people. Some of it is healthy skepticism from African Americans experience in this country's history but also a lot of it is Black Paranoia and conspiracy. Its the Wylie Coyote and Road Runner theory , i think on some level we like being stuck in perpetual struggle thats why when we have major bipartisan victories on racial issues we don't actually know how to acknowledge them and deal with it.

And I've notice some African Americans prefer instant gratification from white people cowering and constantly apologising that people on social media choose easy targetable topics like "cultural appropriation" to make their point.

 

[5th Letter]

Oh I know you're not referring to me, that didn't cross my mind at all.

My point is that sometimes when a white person tries to speak up or unite, there are those that want to question their intent or authenticity. That might discourage some from wanting to speak up at all.

If a white person with good intent says some white shit, don't write them off, educate them. It's those with the good intent that will actually be willing to listen and be educated.

This is crucial. No one group is going to get shit done on their own. We have to do it together.

I get your point.