Anti-Creationists......time to speak your clout

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bambu;5260312 said:
That's not what your European counterparts think.........

Your fellow European evolutionists don't share this trait......

"Fossil records, archaeology, and genetic DNA studies of the living races support Charles

Darwin’s insight that we evolved in Africa. Humans then spread to the Middle East, Europe, Asia,

Australia, and then to the Americas. As humans left Africa, their bodies, brains and behavior changed. To

deal with the colder winters and scarcer food supply of Europe and Northeast Asia, the Oriental and

White races moved away from an r-strategy toward the K-strategy. This meant more parenting and social

organization, which required a larger brain size and a higher IQ."

You're quoting from a book that has been highly criticized by (black and white) experts of their fields. I've told you this before.

Rushton has been criticised for his use of r/K selection theory to explain alleged differences between his identified "races". Evolutionary Biologist Joseph L. Graves (2002) notes that the theory had long lacked support and had been invalidated before Rushton's book was written. According to Graves, Rushton's claim (still present in the third edition and without any acknowledgement of counter-evidence), that r- and K-life history theory was 'a basic principle of modern evolutionary theory' "supports my view that Rushton does not understand life history theory. Thus he employs it incorrectly and through this error his work serves racist ideological agendas."[11]

Lieberman (2001), noting that many animal species do not follow the predictions of r/K theory, has criticised Rushton's classification of arctic conditions as more "stable" than tropical ones, and also his selection of very few environments compared to the variety that human beings have occupied.[12] Brace, in a comment to the same piece, writes that Northern mice, foxes, and deer are not better endowed intellectually than their tropical relatives, and the same is true for virtually all other animals with Arctic and tropical representatives.[12]

Rushton's claims that variations in IQ and behaviour can be predicted and found from his application of r/K selection theory has also received criticism. Scott MacEachern (2006) criticised Rushton's assertion that mental deficits are visible in an evolutionary context, with such cognitive differences existing prehistorically as well. According to MacEachern, an examination of the archaeological record does not support this assertion. As such, regional differences in IQ test score results should not be ascribed to variations in human evolutionary development.[13]

Peregrine et al. (2003) argued, even though using "three versions of the ‘race’ variable, each representing one of the apparent definitions that Rushton used", that "Rushton’s predictions do not find much support, regardless of how ‘race’ is operationalized." They used data from the "186-society Standard Cross-Cultural Sample" and found no statistical support for the predicted associations between "race" and behavior.[14]Francisco Gil-White, wrote of Peregrine's work: "The authors are not doing justice to their own findings. It is not true that "Rushton’s predictions do not find much support"; what is true is that Rushton’s predictions are completely contradicted."[15]

Psychologist David P. Barash notes that r- and K-selection may have some validity when considering the so-called demographic transition, whereby economic development characteristically leads to reduced family size and other K traits. "But this is a pan-human phenomenon, a flexible, adaptive response to changed environmental conditions of lowered mortality and greater pay-off attendant upon concentrating parental investment in a smaller number of offspring [...] Rushton wields r- and K-selection as a Procrustean bed, doing what he can to make the available data fit[...]. Bad science and virulent racial prejudice drip like pus from nearly every page of this despicable book."[16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race,_Evolution,_and_Behavior#r.2FK_theory_as_an_explanation_for_the_data

DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity.
http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/minorities.shtml
 
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The fact that Rushton and other evolutionary scientists who study human genetics have been highly criticized does not remove the fact that his views are supported throughout science as well as mass-culture worldwide.....

And your personal theory is eerily similar to what has been described as racial prejudice dripping like pus......
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If all you are going to do is regurgitate the same failed arguments and run around in circles, I'm going to assume you are trolling and will end the debate.
 
bambu;5260399 said:
The fact that Rushton and other evolutionary scientists who study human genetics have been highly criticized does not remove the fact that his views are supported..

Supported by racists.. and people like yourself, who are so hardpressed to find any argument to disprove evolution, they are willing to use anything they can find on the internet.
 
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Race, Evolution, and Behavior has been cited as an example of the Pioneer Fund's activities in promoting "Scientific racism". Valencia notes that many of the supportive comments for the book come from Pioneer grantees like Rushton himself, and that a 100,000 copy print-run of the third edition was financed by Pioneer.[7] The book is cited by psychologist William H. Tucker as an example of the Pioneer Fund's continued role "to subsidize the creation and distribution of literature to support racial superiority and racial purity." The mass distribution of the abridged third edition he described as part of a "public relations effort", and "the latest attempt to convince the nation of 'the completely different nature' of blacks and whites." He notes that bulk rates were offered "for distribution to media figures, especially columnists who write on race issues".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race,_Evolution,_and_Behavior
 
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Roots Oceanic ;5260411 said:
bambu;5260399 said:
The fact that Rushton and other evolutionary scientists who study human genetics have been highly criticized does not remove the fact that his views are supported..

Supported by racists.. and people like yourself, who are so hardpressed to find any argument to disprove evolution, they are willing to use anything they can find on the internet.

Hardly.....

This argument is supported by various evolution scientists and unwillingly by ignorant people like West Brooklyn that have blindly accepted far-fetched evolution science......

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Exhibit A.....

Did early matings with Neanderthals increase our ability to fight disease?

"Our ancestors’ liaisons with Neanderthals and Denisovans may have made them less susceptible to local infections, proposes Stanford immunologist Laurent Abi-Rached, giving them a survival advantage as they migrated out of Africa to Europe and Asia. “Breeding with our evolutionary cousins may have facilitated the spread of modern humans by preventing them from getting sick.”"
http://www.livescience.com/15754-neanderthals-immunity-boost-humans.html
http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jan-feb/80#.UMuc3IaQ8sc
 
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Plus your vestigiality failed via @Whar....

bambu;5257120 said:
whar;5257093 said:
They are vestigal in humans.

They are tied to fear responses in animals and in humans. But in humans they serve no purpose since they no longer are tied to standing hair on its end to increase size. Same with the response to cold.

Vestigal means that a structure has lost its ancestral function. The Coccyx is vestigal in human since we no longer have a tail however it is still the anchor for some muscles around the pelvis.

You have to use the word it is defined by biology not as you wish it to be defined.

goose bumps = Debunked

"Goose bumps in humans, however, have taken on a new role. Like flushing, another thermoregulatory mechanism, they have become linked with emotional responses - notably fear, rage or the pleasure, say, of listening to beautiful music. This serves as a signal to others and may also heighten emotional reactions: there is some evidence, for instance, that a music-induced frisson causes changes of activity in the brain that are associated with pleasure."

Pineal gland = Debunked

And now for your viewing pleasure.....

Human tailbones = Debunked....

Tailbones???

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Dr. Menton corrected the erroneous statements of Darwinian scientists that the human tailbone was a vestigial structure and noted that “all true tails have bones in them that are a posterior extension of the vertebral column. Also, all true tails have muscles associated with their vertebrae which permit some movement of the tail” (Menton 1994). Rather than leaving the reader with the impression that the coccyx has no real function in human beings, Dr. Menton points out “that most modern biology textbooks give the erroneous impression that the human coccyx has no real function other than to remind us of the ‘inescapable fact’ of evolution. In fact, the coccyx has some very important functions. Several muscles converge from the ring-like arrangement of the pelvic (hip) bones to anchor on the coccyx, forming a bowl-shaped muscular floor of the pelvis called the pelvic diaphragm. The incurved coccyx with its attached pelvic diaphragm keeps the many organs in our abdominal cavity from literally falling through between our legs. Some of the pelvic diaphragm muscles are also important in controlling the elimination of waste from our body through the rectum” (Menton 1994).

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Next???

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@Roots Oceanic.....

Deferring vestigiality to @Whar is a wise decision.....

Especially considering your side caught the L.......
 
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Yeah ok, especially since you were the first to diverge from what you and I were just discussing toward human vestigiality. Like I said, I'm not going to debate with you as long as you continue to re hash old topics. You brought up vestigiality, a convo you were having with Whar. That has nothing to do with what you and I have been talking about. Anyway, I gotta stop texting and driving. Peace.
 
Actually you brought back up the vestigiality when you claimed that goose bumps were a "relic"....

Roots Oceanic ;5192151 said:
We can go ahead and answer the question @waterproof has been pressing, transitioning nicely to the topic of mammals evolving from reptiles..

Most mammals can cause their hair to become erect, thus increasing the air, (i.e., heat) retention. Although humans have lost most of their body hair, goose bumps are the results of our own relic muscles that still exist which used to control these hairs. White-tailed deer grow winter coats four times thicker than summer coats.[/i]
http://www.bobpickett.org/evolution_of_mammals.htm

Which has since been established as nonsense......

HOTEP.....

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whar;5256983 said:
We are mammals. Mammals arose from reptiles.

Within the grouping of Mammals we belong to the Primates. All primates share a common ancestor with the mammals.

Within the grouping of Primates we belongs to the Apes. All apes share a common ancestor with the primates.

Within the grouping of Apes we are the Hominids. We share a common ancestor with all the apes.

None of this should be surprising to you if you had a Biology class. (and paid attention)

So basically you and roots marsh are saying this
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that's it i am done with this, this is some of the most outlandish, off the wall shit in the history of man....... and the black man got's to be the one closet to the ape, lol.......

 
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bambu;5260955 said:
Actually you brought back up the vestigiality when you claimed that goose bumps were a "relic"....

Roots Oceanic ;5192151 said:
We can go ahead and answer the question @waterproof has been pressing, transitioning nicely to the topic of mammals evolving from reptiles..

Most mammals can cause their hair to become erect, thus increasing the air, (i.e., heat) retention. Although humans have lost most of their body hair, goose bumps are the results of our own relic muscles that still exist which used to control these hairs. White-tailed deer grow winter coats four times thicker than summer coats.[/i]
http://www.bobpickett.org/evolution_of_mammals.htm

Which has since been established as nonsense......

HOTEP.....

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I was talking to waterproof, not you. If I need to say something to you, I will either quote or @ you.
 
In fact, my post was in response to a question he posed in a different thread. Everything would be beautiful if you would mind your business and let your man speak for himself.
 
Roots Oceanic ;5261180 said:
I was talking to waterproof, not you. If I need to say something to you, I will either quote or @ you.

In fact, my post was in response to a question he posed in a different thread. Everything would be beautiful if you would mind your business and let your man speak for himself.

Nigga please this is a public forum......

If you want to carry on a private conversation with @waterproof feel free.....

However, you should be aware that @Bambu is gonna pull your card every time you try to promote that bullshit on these boards.....

Everything would be great for you and your humdrum crew if I was not around to illuminate the flaws in your theory......

But, you know the routine out here lil' nigga.....

Only the strong survive.....


 
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LOL.......

Clean up your argument and come back when you can come better than platypodes and vestigiality.....

HOTEP......

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