Anti-Creationists......time to speak your clout

[Bodhi]

A lot of niggas that support evolution are not familiar enough with the theory to hold a conversation on it.....

If it has a bill and webbed feet like a duck, lays eggs like a bird or a reptile but also produces milk and has a coat of fur like a mammal, what could the genetics of the duck-billed platypus possibly be like? Well, just as peculiar - an amalgam of genes reflecting significant branching and transitions in evolution.

"What is unique about the platypus is that it has retained a large overlap between two very different classifications, while later mammals lost the features of reptiles," Warren said in an interview.

The project, involving scientists from eight countries, was primarily financed by the National Human Genome Research Institute in the United States. Its director, Francis Collins, said, "As weird as this animal looks, its genome sequence is priceless for understanding how mammalian biological processes evolved."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/health/08iht-platypus.1.12686531.html?_r=0

However, the University of Arizona researchers believe the insects are in the early stages of diverging into separate species.

The emergence of a new species - speciation - occurs when distinct populations of a species stop reproducing with one another.

When the two groups can no longer interbreed, they cease exchanging genes and eventually go their own evolutionary ways becoming separate species.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3790531.stm

Uhh....

 

[Bodhi]

@bambu

Like I said, rethink your shit and come back. You get one more try. Peace.

 

[bambu]

@Oceanic.....

Ya'll niggas is stupid......

Regardless of the terminology in your fruit fly experiment.......

There was no observance of a new species or evolution........

There is evidence of genetic variations between humans of different continental origins(race).........

Darwinism is the foundation of racism......

Exhibit A:

"Caucasian races have beaten (other races) in the struggle for existence … an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world."

"the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world."

Many years later.......

My theory is that whites will become extinct over time.

Respect the architect, never test the Elohim........

 

[Bodhi]

Darwinism is the foundation of racism......

Exhibit A:

"Caucasian races have beaten (other races) in the struggle for existence … an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world."

"the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world."

^^^ Incorrect information

Although the existing races of man differ in many respects, as in colour, hair, shape of skull, proportions of the body, yet if their whole organisation be taken into consideration they are found to resemble each other closely in a multitude of points. Many of these points are of so unimportant or of so singular a nature, that it is extremely improbable that they should have been independently acquired by aboriginally distinct species or races. The same remark holds good with equal or greater force with respect to the numerous points of mental similarity between the most distinct races of man. The American aborigines, Negroes and Europeans differ as much from each other in mind as any three races that can be named; yet I was incessantly struck, whilst living with the Fuegians on board the Beagle, with the many little traits of character, shewing how similar their minds were to ours; and so it was with a full-blooded negro with whom I happened once to be intimate

The Descent of Man, Chapter VII

Fitz-Roy’s temper was a most unfortunate one. It was usually worst in the early morning, and with his eagle eye he could generally detect something amiss about the ship, and was then unsparing in his blame. He was very kind to me, but was a man very difficult to live with on the intimate terms which necessarily followed from our messing by ourselves in the same cabin. We had several quarrels; for instance, early in the voyage at Bahia, in Brazil, he defended and praised slavery, which I abominated, and told me that he had just visited a great slave-owner, who had called up many of his slaves and asked them whether they were happy, and whether they wished to be free, and all answered “No.” I then asked him, perhaps with a sneer, whether he thought that the answer of slaves in the presence of their master was worth anything? This made him excessively angry, and he said that as I doubted his word we could not live any longer together. I thought that I should have been compelled to leave the ship; but as soon as the news spread, which it did quickly, as the captain sent for the first lieutenant to assuage his anger by abusing me, I was deeply gratified by receiving an invitation from all the gun-room officers to mess with them. But after a few hours Fitz-Roy showed his usual magnanimity by sending an officer to me with an apology and a request that I would continue to live with him.

The Life and Letters of Charles Darwin

It is astonishingly easy to quote mine phrases out of context by latching on to terms such as “Race” and “Savage” that he uses at various points in his writings, but what you are never told is the precise meaning of such terms at that time. Nor are you shown the bigger picture and how quote mined phrases have been lifted out of context to twist their meaning 180 degrees.

The true racists of Darwin s time were the religious creationists. They believed that other races had been separately created and hence were inferior and not related in any way. In stark contrast, it was evolution that clearly demonstrated this to be false and that we are in fact all related, and while there might be minor variations of appearance, we all have a common ancestry and all have the same heart and mind.

Evolution itself is also asserted to be a racist belief. However, the truth is that in stark contrast to the existing views on race at that time, Darwin showed that:

•People cannot be classified as different species

•All races are related and have a common ancestry

•All people come from “savage” origins

•The different races have much more in common than was widely believed

•The mental capabilities of all races are virtually the same and there is greater variation within races than between races

•Different races of people can interbreed and there is no concern for ill effects

•Culture, not biology, accounted for the greatest differences between the races

•Races are not distinct, but rather they blend together

Natural Selection at one stroke wipes out all justifications for racism, and so the claim that it is racist is utterly absurd. In his second great book, The Descent of Man, Darwin outlines all of the various ideas about race that existed at that time, and explains the details of the various ideas, and then proceeds to refute it all. Unfortunately, because of his writing style, it is easy for many to quote-mine stuff out of context and thus completely distort his views. Read it all and you quite clearly find a man who views all of humanity as essentially equal.
http://www.skeptical-science.com/science/darwin-racist-natural-selection-racist-ideology-nope/

 

[bambu]

Exhibit B:

 

[Bodhi]

DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity. People who have lived in the same geographic region for many generations may have some alleles in common, but no allele will be found in all members of one population and in no members of any other.
http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/minorities.shtml

 

[bambu]

Darwinism is the foundation of racism......

Exhibit A:

"Caucasian races have beaten (other races) in the struggle for existence … an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world."

"the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world."

^^^ Incorrect information

Nigga please.....

The more civilised so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilised races throughout the world.

http://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/entry-13230

 

[Bodhi]

"Caucasian races have beaten (other races) in the struggle for existence "

And you misquoted Darwin here: ^^^

The unedited quote is as follows:

The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence.

You are taking Darwin's quote out of context. Is it not true that more civilized races of people with advanced technology and knowledge are propelled past those without?

Darwin is not saying that one race is inherently superior than another. He believed in racial equality. Reference the quote below for verification.

Although the existing races of man differ in many respects, as in colour, hair, shape of skull, proportions of the body, yet if their whole organisation be taken into consideration they are found to resemble each other closely in a multitude of points. Many of these points are of so unimportant or of so singular a nature, that it is extremely improbable that they should have been independently acquired by aboriginally distinct species or races. The same remark holds good with equal or greater force with respect to the numerous points of mental similarity between the most distinct races of man. The American aborigines, Negroes and Europeans differ as much from each other in mind as any three races that can be named; yet I was incessantly struck, whilst living with the Fuegians on board the Beagle, with the many little traits of character, shewing how similar their minds were to ours; and so it was with a full-blooded negro with whom I happened once to be intimate

The Descent of Man, Chapter VII

Basically, he is saying the same as this:

DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity. People who have lived in the same geographic region for many generations may have some alleles in common, but no allele will be found in all members of one population and in no members of any other.
http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/minorities.shtml

 

[bambu]

^^^ Incorrect information

Nigga please.....

The more civilised so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilised races throughout the world.

Direct link.....
http://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/entry-13230

 

[Bodhi]

"Caucasian races have beaten (other races) in the struggle for existence "

And you misquoted Darwin here: ^^^

The unedited quote is as follows:

The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence.

You are taking Darwin's quote out of context. Is it not true that more civilized races of people with advanced technology and knowledge are propelled past those without?

Darwin is not saying that one race is inherently superior than another. He believed in racial equality. Reference the quote below for verification.

Although the existing races of man differ in many respects, as in colour, hair, shape of skull, proportions of the body, yet if their whole organisation be taken into consideration they are found to resemble each other closely in a multitude of points. Many of these points are of so unimportant or of so singular a nature, that it is extremely improbable that they should have been independently acquired by aboriginally distinct species or races. The same remark holds good with equal or greater force with respect to the numerous points of mental similarity between the most distinct races of man. The American aborigines, Negroes and Europeans differ as much from each other in mind as any three races that can be named; yet I was incessantly struck, whilst living with the Fuegians on board the Beagle, with the many little traits of character, shewing how similar their minds were to ours; and so it was with a full-blooded negro with whom I happened once to be intimate

The Descent of Man, Chapter VII

Basically, he is saying the same as this:

DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity. People who have lived in the same geographic region for many generations may have some alleles in common, but no allele will be found in all members of one population and in no members of any other.
http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/minorities.shtml

 

[Bodhi]

^^^ Direct link

 

[bambu]

The point which you raise on intelligent Design has perplexed me beyond measure; & has been ably discussed by Prof. Asa Gray, with whom I have had much correspondence on the subject.—I am in a complete jumble on the point. One cannot look at this Universe with all living productions & man without believing that all has been intelligently designed

 

[Bodhi]

Yeah, Darwin was a Christian until later on in his life at which point he gave up Christianity and became agnostic.

In 1879 John Fordyce wrote asking if Darwin believed in God, and if theism and evolution were compatible. Darwin replied that a man "can be an ardent Theist and an evolutionist", citing Charles Kingsley and Asa Gray as examples, and for himself, "In my most extreme fluctuations I have never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God.— I think that generally (& more and more so as I grow older) but not always, that an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Charles_Darwin#Agnosticism

 

[bambu]

The American aborigines, Negroes and Europeans differ as much from each other in mind as any three races that can be named....

Basically, he is saying the same as this:

 

[janklow]

And I object to @Janklow judging......

He caught a hot dose of ether earlier in this thread.......

oh, no, here we go with the feelings again. but that does bring me to this point:

I will go back to schooling your ass shortly...........

in THIS thread? nope.