Anti-Creationists......time to speak your clout

[Bodhi]

Instead of harping on a semantics argument....

Nah, bruh, don't run. We ain't going nowhere until we get this shit straight and until you realize that you just got ya ass handed to you. I don't give a fuck what you think you did, you ain't shutting shit down now.

I have European heritage...

I don't care if you're white or not. I'm not a racist like you are. I'm just pointing out the fact that not only are you racist, you're a self hating racist and a hypocrite. So where does your "crakkka" blood originate?

Obama is half European and considered the 1st African American president.......

Yeah, because he's also half black but that still does not negate the fact that he is still half white, which again, is no problem for me.. But obviously you have a problem with white people. I think it's hilarious that you are a white person. Don't try to kick that racist shit on the internet and then go home and kiss your white family members.

 

[Bodhi]

Pay close attention, duke. I'm giving you this lesson for free

You have been saying that D mojavensis and D arizonae provides proof of evolution or the observation of a new species....

O.K. which species is new or evolved from another?????

the insects are in the early stages of diverging into separate species.

The emergence of a new species - speciation - occurs when distinct populations of a species stop reproducing with one another.

When the two groups can no longer interbreed, they cease exchanging genes and eventually go their own evolutionary ways becoming separate species

interbreeding

present participle of in·ter·breed (Verb)Verb:

1.(of an animal) Breed with another of a different species.

In the wild, Drosophila mojavensis and Drosophila arizonae rarely, if ever, interbreed - even though their geographical ranges overlap.

when Drosophila arizonae females mate with Drosphila mojavensis males, the resulting males are sterile.

Laura Reed maintains that such limited capacity for interbreeding indicates that the two groups are on the verge of becoming completely separate species.

Because the hybrid male's sterility depends on the mother's genes, the researchers say the genetic change must be recent.

Test for speciation: sterile offspring and lack of interbreeding affinity

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html

In biological nomenclature, a type species is the species to which the name of a genus is permanently linked....

Drosophila mojavensis: genus: Drosophila species: Drosophila mojavensis

Drosophila arizonae: genus: Drosophila species: Drosophila arizonae

"The type species permanently attaches a genus to its formal name (its generic name) by providing just one species within that genus to which the genus is permanently linked (i.e. the genus must include that species if it is to bear the name). The species name in turn is fixed, in theory, to a type specimen."

"In zoological nomenclature, the type of a species (or subspecies) is a specimen (or series of specimens), the type of a genus (or subgenus) is a species, and the type of a suprageneric taxon (e.g., family, etc.) is a genus. Names higher than superfamily rank do not have types."

Genus: Panthera
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panthera

^^^

Species: Panthera Leo (lion)

Species: Panthera Onca (jaguar)

Species: Panthera Pardus (leopard)

Species: Panthera Tigris (tiger) >>> Different Species; Of Same Genus

likewise

Genus: Drosophila
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drosophila

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Species: Mojavensis

Species: Melanogaster

Species: Immigrans

Species: Simulans

Species: Funebris

Species: Subobscura >>> Different Species; Of Same Genus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drosophila

Click the link, look on the right side of the screen under the image of repleta. It gives you the scientific classification of Drosophila. Under that, you'll see a link that says type species (don't click it; look below the link). As an example of species, wikipedia listed Musca Funebris. If you click the name M. Funebris, you are taken to a page that reads:

Drosophila funebris is a species of fruit fly. It was originally described by Johan Christian Fabricius in 1787, and placed in the genus Musca but is now the type species of the paraphyletic genus Drosophila.

Funebris is the type species, Drosophila is the genus

"In the common fruit fly, Drosophila, environmentally

mediated perturbations of the Hsp90 gene can cause the

simultaneous deregulation of a number or genes. This, in

turn, causes these flies to display a variety of developmental

abnormalities, such as deformed or absent eyes, notched

wings, duplicated bristles, etc. Such malformations hardly

inspire confidence in this mechanism as a cause of alleged

evolutionary change."

We're talking about speciation, not deformed eyes, notched wings or duplicated bristles. There's a big difference:

Test for speciation: sterile offspring and lack of interbreeding affinity

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html

A genetic change that is the cause of speciation is a genetic change that prevents one species from interbreeding with another and producing fertile offspring.

 

[Bodhi]

^^^ edit

 

[bambu]

So I'm the racist?????

I am not the nigga round here kicking up out the ass racist evolutionary theories that say that Caucasians are defects to mankind......

My theory is that whites will become extinct over time. As stated previously, blacks are better equipped to escape an evolutionary dead end. From my understanding of evolution, changes can occur and create branches that eventually end, for example Neanderthals. My theory stems from the idea that whites were "created" from blacks, being a branch that lacks the specific things that blacks carry and are able to continue because of.

When you observe nature, you will see. Vitiligo, which causes the skin to turn white.. Albino people who were born with white skin.. These are sorts of "defects" for lack of a better word.

Bitch ass nigga.......

All that I have done here is illustrate the racist theories that stem from your bullshit theory of evolution......

I read your bullshit evidence on Drosophila....

Again....

There were two type specimen to begin with.....

Any interbreeding will result in sterile offspring....

They are two different type specimen.......

Kind of like Homo sapiens and Homo neanderthalensis.....

The occasional hybrid offspring.....

However no new species or evolution.......

"The type species permanently attaches a genus to its formal name (its generic name) by providing just one species within that genus to which the genus is permanently linked (i.e. the genus must include that species if it is to bear the name). The species name in turn is fixed, in theory, to a type specimen."

 

[Bodhi]

I am not the nigga round here kicking up out the ass racist evolutionary theories that say that Caucasians are defects to mankind......

When I used the word "defect", I was describing melanin deficiency like that which Albinos possess. When I was referring to "white" people, I meant people with low amounts of melanin. I should have refrained from using the words "white" and "black" to prevent confusion so that was my fault.

Melanin i/ˈmɛlənɪn/ (Greek: μέλας, black)is a pigment that is ubiquitous in nature, being found in most organisms

Melanin deficiency has been connected for some time with various genetic abnormalities and disease states.

It's not to necessarily say that blacks are superior to whites, so it's not necessarily racism. You just took it that way.

You, on the other hand, are suggesting that whites are inherently weak, loosely and wrecklessly using racial slurs and the irony of it all is that you belong to the group of people which you are attempting to put down. In other words, you're an idiot. A racist, self-hating idiot.

The racist theories are false; that does not make evolutionary theory false. If someone were to create a racist theory based off something that we currently know to be fact, would you then give that up as well? It's not logical or productive to think that way. That is why your i.d. theory does not bring anything new to the table. You cannot solve any of the problems that have been solved with the theory of evolution. Your i.d. theory causes us to go backward, not forward. If you would like to use your i.d. theory to bring current understanding further and thus make your theory stronger, I would be happy to hear it but you have not and you cannot. As Mystikal so eloquently put it:

U would if U could nigga

U would, but U cant, so U aint!

 

[Bodhi]

There were two type specimen to begin with.....

Any interbreeding will result in sterile offspring....

The insects are in the early stages of diverging into separate species.

The emergence of a new species - speciation - occurs when distinct populations of a species stop reproducing with one another.

When the two groups can no longer interbreed, they cease exchanging genes and eventually go their own evolutionary ways becoming separate species.

Drosophila mojavensis mothers typically produce healthy offspring after mating with Drosophila arizonae males, but when Drosophila arizonae females mate with Drosphila mojavensis males, the resulting males are sterile.

Laura Reed maintains that such limited capacity for interbreeding indicates that the two groups are on the verge of becoming completely separate species.

Another finding that adds support to that idea is that in a strain of Drosophila mojavensis from southern California's Catalina Island, mothers always produce sterile males when mated with Drosophila arizonae males.

Because the hybrid male's sterility depends on the mother's genes, the researchers say the genetic change must be recent.

They are two different type specimen.......

Kind of like Homo sapiens and Homo neanderthalensis.....

The occasional hybrid offspring.....

However no new species or evolution.......

No, they are becoming two seperate species because the [natural] recent genetic change prevents successful breeding between the two populations. When breeding occurs, the resulting males are sterile. This is an indication that speciation has occurred.

"Type" specimen does not help your argument. A "type specimen" is:

type spec·i·men Noun:

The specimen, or each of a set of specimens, on which the description and name

of a new species is based.

Noun 1. type specimen - the original specimen from which the description of a new species is made

It's synonyms are "example" or "model"

 

[bambu]

Bitch please.....

, I meant people with low amounts of melanin. I should have refrained from using the words "white" and "black" to prevent confusion so that was my fault.

Ole what I had meant to say was..... HEAD ASS NIGGA......

Whatever nigga...

You been looking stupid for a minute now.....

You, on the other hand, are suggesting that whites are inherently weak, loosely and wrecklessly using racial slurs

Says the Uncle Tom ass nigga.....

My theory is that whites will become extinct over time

However, I am not supporting any pseudo-evolutionary theories that pit the "races" in an evolutionary race against each other........

And I been deconstructed that lame ass fruit fly shit.....

I grow weary of entertaining your ignorance......

If they are differing species or specimens, why is their lack of inbreeding an issue?????

These groups did not start out with the ability to reproduce......

So the fact that they don't fuck with each other is irrelevant....

"In the common fruit fly, Drosophila, environmentally

mediated perturbations of the Hsp90 gene can cause the

simultaneous deregulation of a number or genes. This, in

turn, causes these flies to display a variety of developmental

abnormalities, such as deformed or absent eyes, notched

wings, duplicated bristles, etc.6 Such malformations hardly

inspire confidence in this mechanism as a cause of alleged

evolutionary change."

 

[Bodhi]

You haven't deconstructed anything as of yet. I've already responded to the argument you continue to run with and I'm still waiting on a proper intellectual reply from you

"In the common fruit fly, Drosophila, environmentally

mediated perturbations of the Hsp90 gene can cause the

simultaneous deregulation of a number or genes. This, in

turn, causes these flies to display a variety of developmental

abnormalities, such as deformed or absent eyes, notched

wings, duplicated bristles, etc. Such malformations hardly

inspire confidence in this mechanism as a cause of alleged

evolutionary change."

We're talking about speciation, not deformed eyes, notched wings or duplicated bristles. There's a big difference:

Test for speciation: sterile offspring and lack of interbreeding affinity

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html

A genetic change that is the cause of speciation is a genetic change that prevents one species from interbreeding with another and producing fertile offspring.

If they are differing species or specimens, why is their lack of inbreeding an issue?????

These groups did not start out with the ability to reproduce......

So the fact that they don't fuck with each other is irrelevant....

The insects are in the early stages of diverging into separate species.

The emergence of a new species - speciation - occurs when distinct populations of a species stop reproducing with one another.

When the two groups can no longer interbreed, they cease exchanging genes and eventually go their own evolutionary ways becoming separate species.

Drosophila mojavensis mothers typically produce healthy offspring after mating with Drosophila arizonae males, but when Drosophila arizonae females mate with Drosphila mojavensis males, the resulting males are sterile.

Laura Reed maintains that such limited capacity for interbreeding indicates that the two groups are on the verge of becoming completely separate species.

Another finding that adds support to that idea is that in a strain of Drosophila mojavensis from southern California's Catalina Island, mothers always produce sterile males when mated with Drosophila arizonae males.

Because the hybrid male's sterility depends on the mother's genes, the researchers say the genetic change must be recent.

 

[Bodhi]

nigga...

I have European heritage

 

[bambu]

nigga...

I have European heritage

crakka...

I have African heritage

........

 

[bambu]

Sterile males

In the wild, Drosophila mojavensis and Drosophila arizonae rarely, if ever, interbreed - even though their geographical ranges overlap.

In the lab, researchers can coax successful breeding but there are complications.

Drosophila mojavensis mothers typically produce healthy offspring after mating with Drosophila arizonae males, but when Drosophila arizonae females mate with Drosphila mojavensis males, the resulting males are sterile.

Laura Reed maintains that such limited capacity for interbreeding indicates that the two groups are on the verge of becoming completely separate species.

Because the hybrid male's sterility depends on the mother's genes, the researchers say the genetic change must be recent.

Speculation......

And since you follow Linneaus' classification so rigorously religiously......

Why not follow his human classifications?????

Homo europaeus (Europeans), Homo asiaticus (Asians), Homo afer (Africans), and Homo americanus, for the original 'Americans.'.....

And my favorite, Homo nocturnus(Albinos)....

My theory is that whites will become extinct over time.

Your theories seem to fit, However he would suggest that whites would outlast the "evolutionary dead end" that you speak of through natural selection or survival of the fittest.....

And that indigenous people of the world would become "extinct"....

 

[bambu]

@West Brooklyn....

The God MC frowns on your shenanigans nigga.....

Scientists try to solve the context

Philosophers are wondering what's next

Pieces are took to last who observe them

They couldn't absorb them, they didn't deserve them

My ideas are only for the audience's ears

For my opponents, it might take years

Pencils and pens, are swords

Letters put together form a key to chords

I'm also a sculpture, born with structure

Because of my culture, I'm a rip and destruct the

Difficult styles that'll be for the technology

Complete sights and new heights after I get deep

You don't have to speak just seek

And peep the technique.......

 

[Bodhi]

And since you follow Linneaus' classification so rigorously religiously......

Why not follow his human classifications?????

Homo europaeus (Europeans), Homo asiaticus (Asians), Homo afer (Africans), and Homo americanus, for the original 'Americans.'.....

And my favorite, Homo nocturnus(Albinos)....

Because all humans are the same species. All humans are able to reproduce and give birth to fertile children regardless of race

 

[Bodhi]

Rakim has just as much right as anyone else to practice his own religion and live by his own beliefs.

 

[ohhhla]

I never take rappers, seriously anyways.

 

[The True Flesh]

Y'all anti-creationists are something else posting pages and pages of strawman arguments, and as if that aint bad enough .......a bunch of people went for your pitiful bait.

Okay kiddies obviously there really isn't any tangible proof of any creature transitioning from one CLASS of creature to another........all the other stuff posted hasn't distracted me from what I originally set out to find out.....and that is ......have I overlooked direct evidence of inter-class transition???

EMPIRICALLY, NO I HAVEN'T!!!

Some of you think that man is the pinnacle of wisdom.......that will undoubtedly be your downfall.

PEACE

 

[Bodhi]

There is proof for transition between classes within the fossil record. We don't have any way to observe that kind of transition in real time. It takes too long for us to actually observe it

 

[Bodhi]

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-evolution.html

 

[waterproof]

There is proof for transition between classes within the fossil record. We don't have any way to observe that kind of transition in real time. It takes too long for us to actually observe it

West Alabama show the fuckin proof or shut the fuck up

 

[whar]

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional/part1b.html#syn2mamm

Here is a fuck-ton of evidence showing transitions among higher categories of animals. It does not mean fuck all to people who will not let themselves accept it due to dogmatic thinking.