Andre 3k is top 10 even if he never raps again or never drops a solo album

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I aint mad. I gave a basis for what i said, you didnt. You just said G rap better with no reasoning.

Andre doesnt have any wack verses, quality over quantity.
 
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D-Marco;2023381 said:
I aint mad. I gave a basis for what i said, you didnt. You just said G rap better with no reasoning.

Andre doesnt have any wack verses, quality over quantity.

yes i did i said kool g is a better lyricist and has put out solo albums what has andre3000 put out ?
 
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genstasia;2023397 said:
Dueces Remix says other wise....

And verses are a part but not a huge part of somebody being Top 10.... Because if not having a WACK verse makes u Top 10 then Jada really is Top 5.....

I dont think his Dueces verse was wack tho. And You too missed the part where I said he has substance in every verse. Im a big Kiss fan but I cant say that for him or many rappers. Dre has a message in his shit, everytime. See the one time I give the south credit niggas dont listen
 
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Dre is easily in one of the tops spots, his work group or alone speaks for its self. Jordan got rings with Pippen, but Pippen was no Jordan so don't get it it twisted even though Pippen lead the Blazers the didn't win a ring. But check this out st time is question is Dre the best out of everyone in the D.F cause Cee-Lo is just as good or better
 
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genstasia;2023445 said:
So his message makes him Top 10? And who says Kiss aint got a message? Jada shit all of the Lox stay dropping Gems in they music on a CONSISTENT basis.... It's not "We are the world" but the average nigga hustling can appreciate it....

And Comparing his Dueces verse to the rest of his verse.... Yes it was very weak....

He has more technical rapping skills than Jadakiss and this coming from a LOX fan. Jada uses one flow on every song no matter what kind of beat. I have the Best of Jadakiss mixtape, its the same flow everytime.

And if Dueces is wack, find another wack verse. Like it or not, he's better than Kiss.
 
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@ all the posts saying dont underrate Big Boi, I never did.

I wouldnt argue with anyone who put Big Boi in a top 10, and he has moved up in the ranks since dropping a dope ass solo album.

This aint a Big Boi vs. Andre thread though.

I'm sayin even if Dre is only spittin half the song, all of his classic Outkast material adds up to more than plenty other rappers that get named top 10.
 
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Its abotu Catalogue of work. It doesnt matter if its solo or group work. So basically niggas saying if a rapper starts in a group, they have to go solo to get respect? FOH
 
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wordsRweapons;2023040 said:
Outkast is a top 10 hiphop act, but Andre 3000 alone isn't. Don't let one man have all the credit. How are you gonna overlook big boi like that?

This. Stop discrediting Big Boi like he's just "the other dude" or some weed carrier. OutKast is not the same without Big Boi. Now I think about it, I think I actually prefer him to Andre.
 
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D-Marco;2023500 said:
Its abotu Catalogue of work. It doesnt matter if its solo or group work. So basically niggas saying if a rapper starts in a group, they have to go solo to get respect? FOH

^^^^^^

Somehow Dre's Outkast verses count for less because he was standing next to Big Boi? shit makes no sense
 
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For all this talk of discrediting Big Boi, very few people have actually done so in the thread.
 
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genstasia;2023506 said:
Who said he wasnt better than Jada? See yall take stuff and run with it... I was sayin ur premise of "Andre never had a wack verse" making him Top 10 is a dumb premise because it apply's to Jada also and we all know Jada aint Top 5......

I get what your saying. I just dont agree. Because even if 3000 drops a 5 mic claiber solo album...guess what? When we talk about his classic songs, verses, etc. We're still gonna reference Outkast. So thats why i say it doesnt matter, unless you wanna have an entire solo career .

So the same applies for Pusha T? Him and malice can stand alone, same wit Dre
 
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genstasia;2023533 said:
i think Everybody respects Andre as a rapper but thats like sayin The Outlaws are the best Group EVER because Pac was down with them (Even tho Pac hasnt made a group album with them)... When ur talking about a rapper in singular form his Singular work has to stand for it self...

Actually its nothing liekk ur example. Im talking catalogue. Outkast albums are apart of his body of work that he's put out. People always try to manipulate shit when they want to prove a point. Next juelz gonna say Grap had better rhyme schemes than Andre...lol
 
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Has he dropped any new shit lately???? The last verse I heard from dude that I felt was dope was that UGK shit Playa Anthem aint heard much from him since unless u want to count that Chris Brown remix...which imo he had the worst verse and flow on the whole fucking song.
 
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genstasia;2023533 said:
i think Everybody respects Andre as a rapper but thats like sayin The Outlaws are the best Group EVER because Pac was down with them (Even tho Pac hasnt made a group album with them)... When ur talking about a rapper in singular form his Singular work has to stand for it self...

why?

Dre sat down and wrote his own verses. Did Big Boi teach him how to flow like that? and I'm not following the Outlaws comparison either
 
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wordsRweapons;2023040 said:
Outkast is a top 10 hiphop act, but Andre 3000 alone isn't. Don't let one man have all the credit. How are you gonna overlook big boi like that?

Completely agree with this; Andre 3000 is dope but so is Big Boi; both of them together bring a lot of awesome music. I think if 3000 had a set of solo albums too which helped shape a legacy for him as an individual then yes, but at this moment in time I'd still keep them as a collective.
 
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I really can't understand why Big Boi is bein' mentioned so much...This is a 3k is a top 10 thread...Big Boi could be top 10 too..If someone put him there I wouldn't argue
 
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BobOblah;2022959 said:
Outkast has the catalog, impact, and as many or more classics than everyone else considered top 10.

People call Biggie top 5 with only 2 albums, but then go and say Andre 3000 needs a solo album

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hell no he is not top 5...outkast is mos def top 5 groups tho

you cant be top 5 with a couple of features thats hot if thats the case Weezy will be top five before anybody

second 3K is dope but the chance of his album coming out is slim to none

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genstasia;2023745 said:
Yea he wrote all his verses but verses are the only part of the album? When in a group its easy Especially if its somebody u been rapping with for a while because u can casually bounce ideas off each other... But when ur a solo artist its just u, ur ideas, and ur note book... Rappers have ppl around them to bounce ideas off of but alot of the time they are not artist so they may just be yes men and not understand what makes great music... Perfect example is Bun B, he can spit his ass off but without Pimp C he's not the same because Pimp C added that "Artistic" view to UGK.....

So In my opinion u judge a solo artist by their solo work but u judge a group by its group work....

I hear ya... but I dont think that Dre's Outkast material counts for any less because he was in the studio with Big Boi. That they fed off each other doesnt discredit that Dre has been one of the most consistently great MCs ever
 
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