All Conspiracy Theorists are bound for Hell

[beenwize]

dumbass Bible thumper mad cuz your king james VERSION Bible is not the only scriptures, Lol

 

[In Your Moms Room]

Real talk. I don't fuck with alot of niggas.

 

[VIBE]

How can gods "promise" mean anything to anyone outside of israelites?

Israelites are his people and the ones to be saved, the bible states this.

 

[Rock_Well]

@jaded most

dumbass Bible thumper mad cuz your king james VERSION Bible is not the only scriptures, Lol

see? this post came straight from the heart

 

[Rock_Well]

A 'theory' that all, bad, evil and hate is the 'devil' is at least based on a true story.

That is not a true story. All bad, evil and hate stems from the minds of sentient beings who can determine what events, happenings, or doings are least desirable and most desirable to their well being.That is the true story.

ok, you say 'stems from the mind' (of humans) right? now watch this:

"For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander." (Matthew 15:19)

so is NOT the above verse true?

In the Bible, 'heart' = spirit

They don't use the word 'spirit' in Science, they use 'mind' and 'consciousness'.

all refer to the same thing tho.

but where u say 'beings who can determine what events, happenings, or doing are least desirable and most desirable to their well being' the Bible says men can't do that. but are you going to tell me the following verses are NOT true: "I know, O LORD, that a man’s way is not in himself, Nor is it in a man who walks to direct his steps." Jeremiah 10:23

"A man's heart deviseth his way; But the LORD directeth his steps." (Proverbs 16:9)



"Every man's way is right in his own eyes, But the LORD weighs the hearts." (Proverbs 21:2)

And if rejecting the above truth that men don't have the ability to determine on their own what path is best, then what do you have on Jesus words? Everyone knows Jesus drew some pretty hard lines concerning what path to take in terms of good and evil. But of course you might say Jesus words are false. How do we rationalize this?

And don't say all religion are 'truths' because this is self-ethering by nature and would mean that no truth exists. which is probably one of the single most deadliest of lies a man can eat.

Yeah I would have to disagree with that: a man's way is in himself; but I agree with the statement that it isn't in a man who walks to direct his steps. I don't believe any of the proverbs verses because I don't believe in the "LORD"

What words of Jesus' do you want me to comment on? One thing I agree with in the Bible is that we know "good" and "evil" by it's fruits. Whatever, IMO, causes suffering is evil, but again, the nature and minds of sentient beings determine what suffering is.

I don't think that all religions are true completely but all of them have some truth in them.

that's amazing to me. how people can pick which verses in the Bible they'll believe but reject others on no other criteria than it doesn't match their personal preconceptions or it doesn't offer what they want. be a REAL nig a ride for ALL the scripts. TAKE A STAND.

but no one likes to admit they may be wrong right?

so might as well continue defending the initial judgments you made before the Bible came along and taught that in order to make it toe Heaven you might have to change your beliefs.

Regarding Jesus, He cosigned all the OT prophets and fulfilled some of their prophecies. Jesus cosigned the Apostles. Everyone Jesus cosigned the message of what was being taught is basically a check in Jesus name that you can take to the spiritual bank and cash. Jesus said ALL of God's words are truth. I mean even on that point alone is enough because that means you would have to accept the Bible as a whole if you agree with Jesus teachings...and when you take into account everything else He did for us, what is it that you can say you got on Jesus that is reason to conclude that it's safe to just ignore everything He stood for and not try to live how He would want us to? Or what reason is there to reject the rest of what the Bible teaches?

 

[Rock_Well]

Any evidence for their said called hell?

I wouldn't think so being that it's a spiritual realm. I suppose there's no physical evidence of 'Ghosts' either because the only way we have to physical proof would be video record one right? but in order to do that you have to use a physical device and Ghosts aren't physical so i don't think it's possible to get physical evidence.

 

[Rock_Well]

How can gods "promise" mean anything to anyone outside of israelites?

Israelites are his people and the ones to be saved, the bible states this.

It doesn't say ONLY Israelites. but yes Israel has always been God's people. Every nation is invited to have a covenant relationship with God, it's taught in the NT.

 

[waterproof]

Surely there are certain things that are credited to some form of supernatural being by whichever religious text you use?

@goldcertificate what supernatural being are you talking about

Any supernatural being that is said to control and manipulate the world around us.

how about getting some understanding first and you see that YHWH does not the control or manipulate the world around us. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW, you either can use the tools that was given to us or not

So there are no observable acts of "YHWH" in the world? Meaning no phenomena has occurred that qualifies as "the will of YHWH"?

Phenomea like what????

 

[waterproof]

How can gods "promise" mean anything to anyone outside of israelites?

Israelites are his people and the ones to be saved, the bible states this.

i can tell you do read scriptures, didn't the scriptures said that Isreal is to be Minsters of Yah

 

[Gold_Certificate]

Surely there are certain things that are credited to some form of supernatural being by whichever religious text you use?

@goldcertificate what supernatural being are you talking about

Any supernatural being that is said to control and manipulate the world around us.

how about getting some understanding first and you see that YHWH does not the control or manipulate the world around us. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW, you either can use the tools that was given to us or not

So there are no observable acts of "YHWH" in the world? Meaning no phenomena has occurred that qualifies as "the will of YHWH"?

Phenomea like what????

Anything that fits the below definition:

Definition of PHENOMENON

1 plural phenomena : an observable fact or event

2 plural phenomena

a : an object or aspect known through the senses rather than by thought or intuition

b : a temporal or spatiotemporal object of sensory experience as distinguished from a noumenon

 

[Bodhi]

that's amazing to me. how people can pick which verses in the Bible they'll believe but reject others on no other criteria than it doesn't match their personal preconceptions or it doesn't offer what they want. be a REAL nig a ride for ALL the scripts. TAKE A STAND.

Because some things I agree with and some things I don't. I'm not a sheep -- I don't just accept whatever is handed to me.

 

[Bodhi]

Regarding Jesus, He cosigned all the OT prophets and fulfilled some of their prophecies. Jesus cosigned the Apostles. Everyone Jesus cosigned the message of what was being taught is basically a check in Jesus name that you can take to the spiritual bank and cash. Jesus said ALL of God's words are truth. I mean even on that point alone is enough because that means you would have to accept the Bible as a whole if you agree with Jesus teachings...and when you take into account everything else He did for us, what is it that you can say you got on Jesus that is reason to conclude that it's safe to just ignore everything He stood for and not try to live how He would want us to? Or what reason is there to reject the rest of what the Bible teaches?

I hold Jesus no higher than I do anyone else I've encountered. Just because Jesus said it, doesn't mean I'm going to believe it. Keep in mind, I'm not a Christian.

 

[beenwize]

@jaded most

dumbass Bible thumper mad cuz your king james VERSION Bible is not the only scriptures, Lol

see? this post came straight from the heart

You right that post came from the heart.. no such doctrine of burning in a eternal hell was taught in the Old Testament for the millions of ppl that lived during that time so

therefore your doctrine of hell does not even agree with your king James version bible. Your doctrine of hell was created for the weak minded to make them slaves to a religion and incapable to think for themselves..

The scriptures are even inconsistent as one says blood is REQUIRED for the remission of sins yet the other seems to indicate being against blood and burnt offerings.

Isaiah 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

Stop bringing meaningless offerings! Your incense is detestable to me. New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations--I cannot bear your evil assemblies.

Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

And when you spread forth your hands, I will hide my eyes from you: yea, when you make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Hebrews 9:22 Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins

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[VIBE]

A 'theory' that all, bad, evil and hate is the 'devil' is at least based on a true story.

That is not a true story. All bad, evil and hate stems from the minds of sentient beings who can determine what events, happenings, or doings are least desirable and most desirable to their well being.That is the true story.

ok, you say 'stems from the mind' (of humans) right? now watch this:

"For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander." (Matthew 15:19)

so is NOT the above verse true?

In the Bible, 'heart' = spirit

They don't use the word 'spirit' in Science, they use 'mind' and 'consciousness'.

all refer to the same thing tho.

but where u say 'beings who can determine what events, happenings, or doing are least desirable and most desirable to their well being' the Bible says men can't do that. but are you going to tell me the following verses are NOT true: "I know, O LORD, that a man’s way is not in himself, Nor is it in a man who walks to direct his steps." Jeremiah 10:23

"A man's heart deviseth his way; But the LORD directeth his steps." (Proverbs 16:9)



"Every man's way is right in his own eyes, But the LORD weighs the hearts." (Proverbs 21:2)

And if rejecting the above truth that men don't have the ability to determine on their own what path is best, then what do you have on Jesus words? Everyone knows Jesus drew some pretty hard lines concerning what path to take in terms of good and evil. But of course you might say Jesus words are false. How do we rationalize this?

And don't say all religion are 'truths' because this is self-ethering by nature and would mean that no truth exists. which is probably one of the single most deadliest of lies a man can eat.

Yeah I would have to disagree with that: a man's way is in himself; but I agree with the statement that it isn't in a man who walks to direct his steps. I don't believe any of the proverbs verses because I don't believe in the "LORD"

What words of Jesus' do you want me to comment on? One thing I agree with in the Bible is that we know "good" and "evil" by it's fruits. Whatever, IMO, causes suffering is evil, but again, the nature and minds of sentient beings determine what suffering is.

I don't think that all religions are true completely but all of them have some truth in them.

that's amazing to me. how people can pick which verses in the Bible they'll believe but reject others on no other criteria than it doesn't match their personal preconceptions or it doesn't offer what they want. be a REAL nig a ride for ALL the scripts. TAKE A STAND.

but no one likes to admit they may be wrong right?

so might as well continue defending the initial judgments you made before the Bible came along and taught that in order to make it toe Heaven you might have to change your beliefs.

Regarding Jesus, He cosigned all the OT prophets and fulfilled some of their prophecies. Jesus cosigned the Apostles. Everyone Jesus cosigned the message of what was being taught is basically a check in Jesus name that you can take to the spiritual bank and cash. Jesus said ALL of God's words are truth. I mean even on that point alone is enough because that means you would have to accept the Bible as a whole if you agree with Jesus teachings...and when you take into account everything else He did for us, what is it that you can say you got on Jesus that is reason to conclude that it's safe to just ignore everything He stood for and not try to live how He would want us to? Or what reason is there to reject the rest of what the Bible teaches?

Word? So you follow all of Leviticus 19?

 

[beenwize]

A 'theory' that all, bad, evil and hate is the 'devil' is at least based on a true story.

That is not a true story. All bad, evil and hate stems from the minds of sentient beings who can determine what events, happenings, or doings are least desirable and most desirable to their well being.That is the true story.

ok, you say 'stems from the mind' (of humans) right? now watch this:

"For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander." (Matthew 15:19)

so is NOT the above verse true?

In the Bible, 'heart' = spirit

They don't use the word 'spirit' in Science, they use 'mind' and 'consciousness'.

all refer to the same thing tho.

but where u say 'beings who can determine what events, happenings, or doing are least desirable and most desirable to their well being' the Bible says men can't do that. but are you going to tell me the following verses are NOT true: "I know, O LORD, that a man’s way is not in himself, Nor is it in a man who walks to direct his steps." Jeremiah 10:23

"A man's heart deviseth his way; But the LORD directeth his steps." (Proverbs 16:9)



"Every man's way is right in his own eyes, But the LORD weighs the hearts." (Proverbs 21:2)

And if rejecting the above truth that men don't have the ability to determine on their own what path is best, then what do you have on Jesus words? Everyone knows Jesus drew some pretty hard lines concerning what path to take in terms of good and evil. But of course you might say Jesus words are false. How do we rationalize this?

And don't say all religion are 'truths' because this is self-ethering by nature and would mean that no truth exists. which is probably one of the single most deadliest of lies a man can eat.

Yeah I would have to disagree with that: a man's way is in himself; but I agree with the statement that it isn't in a man who walks to direct his steps. I don't believe any of the proverbs verses because I don't believe in the "LORD"

What words of Jesus' do you want me to comment on? One thing I agree with in the Bible is that we know "good" and "evil" by it's fruits. Whatever, IMO, causes suffering is evil, but again, the nature and minds of sentient beings determine what suffering is.

I don't think that all religions are true completely but all of them have some truth in them.

that's amazing to me. how people can pick which verses in the Bible they'll believe but reject others on no other criteria than it doesn't match their personal preconceptions or it doesn't offer what they want. be a REAL nig a ride for ALL the scripts. TAKE A STAND.

but no one likes to admit they may be wrong right?

so might as well continue defending the initial judgments you made before the Bible came along and taught that in order to make it toe Heaven you might have to change your beliefs.

Regarding Jesus, He cosigned all the OT prophets and fulfilled some of their prophecies. Jesus cosigned the Apostles. Everyone Jesus cosigned the message of what was being taught is basically a check in Jesus name that you can take to the spiritual bank and cash. Jesus said ALL of God's words are truth. I mean even on that point alone is enough because that means you would have to accept the Bible as a whole if you agree with Jesus teachings...and when you take into account everything else He did for us, what is it that you can say you got on Jesus that is reason to conclude that it's safe to just ignore everything He stood for and not try to live how He would want us to? Or what reason is there to reject the rest of what the Bible teaches?

You say Jesus cosigned all of the Old Testament? Lol and did you also forget your Bible was revised, compiled, and published by the same ppl that are supposed to have crucified Jesus? Only a dummy would believe they did not alter the Bible at all. And if Jesus is suppose to be the central theme of the Bible through his death for the sins of the world after he was beaten and crucified then what is the purpose of the Old Testament god constantly denying any form of a savior other than himself? Does he only want worship for himself? What exactly is the purpose of saying no other savior is besides me if the only other savior the Bible teaches of is Jesus? Kinda sound like the same entity that approached Jesus for worship on the mountain to me.

If Jesus died for the sins of the entire world then you would think it would say Jesus is a savior besides me rather than say there is no savior besides me.

Isaiah 43:11

I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

 

[Rock_Well]

@jaded most

dumbass Bible thumper mad cuz your king james VERSION Bible is not the only scriptures, Lol

see? this post came straight from the heart

You right that post came from the heart.. no such doctrine of burning in a eternal hell was taught in the Old Testament for the millions of ppl that lived during that time so

therefore your doctrine of hell does not even agree with your king James version bible. Your doctrine of hell was created for the weak minded to make them slaves to a religion and incapable to think for themselves..

The scriptures are even inconsistent as one says blood is REQUIRED for the remission of sins yet the other seems to indicate being against blood and burnt offerings.

Isaiah 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

Stop bringing meaningless offerings! Your incense is detestable to me. New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations--I cannot bear your evil assemblies.

Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

And when you spread forth your hands, I will hide my eyes from you: yea, when you make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Hebrews 9:22 Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins

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xD foreal? if you back up to the beginning of the chapter where you ripped Isaiah 1:11-15 out it's context, you'll realize that you gotta be trollin yourself to believe that's a contradiction with Hebrews 9:22. The two passages make completely different points.

 

[Rock_Well]

Word? So you follow all of Leviticus 19?

not sure what you getting at...

 

[beenwize]

Isiah 1:11 ask the question what is the purpose of your sacrifice to ime yet in other areas of the Bible it says without shedding blood their is NO remission of sins... So if shedding blood is REQUIRED to forgive sins then why is the question being asked in Isiah 1:11?

Leviticus 17:11 For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one's life.

 

[Rock_Well]

You say Jesus cosigned all of the Old Testament? Lol and did you also forget your Bible was revised, compiled, and published by the same ppl that are supposed to have crucified Jesus? Only a dummy would believe they did not alter the Bible at all.

You started off in the wrong direction the moment you chose to believe mere men can distort and alter the word of a sovereign God. But then again you don't stand for truth, so you open yourself to all sorts of lies of men. As it's written, God be true and all men liars. And the above is a lie. All who believe the lie and all unrepentant liars headed to Hell. God has no desire for men to destroy themselves. Why not repent?

And if Jesus is suppose to be the central theme of the Bible through his death for the sins of the world after he was beaten and crucified then what is the purpose of the Old Testament god constantly denying any form of a savior other than himself? Does he only want worship for himself? What exactly is the purpose of saying no other savior is besides me if the only other savior the Bible teaches of is Jesus? Kinda sound like the same entity that approached Jesus for worship on the mountain to me.

If Jesus died for the sins of the entire world then you would think it would say Jesus is a savior besides me rather than say there is no savior besides me.

Isaiah 43:11

I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Jesus is a spirit. Jesus is the author and finisher of Christian Faith. Part of this implies He authored the Old Testament as well. The fact that the Bible refers to Jesus as being the savior implies that Jesus is God. Wow! So where is the contradiction besides just in your own head? How is it so hard to put that together?

 

[Rock_Well]

Isiah 1:11 ask the question what is the purpose of your sacrifice to ime yet in other areas of the Bible it says without shedding blood their is NO remission of sins... So if shedding blood is REQUIRED to forgive sins then why is the question being asked in Isiah 1:11?

But Samuel replied: "Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the voice of the LORD? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams. (1 Samuel 15:22)

The point is to not put yourself in a place where you need to do so many sacrifices in the first place. It's like credit card debt. Don't get credit card after credit card, just stopped putting yourself in debt in the first place!

See, the problem with the sacrifices mentioned in Isaiah 1:11 is that ppl were using them as a way to 'pay' for their sins....like they have some kind of sinning license. That's why God found their sacrifices to be an abomination. The lesson here still applies to a Christian now but in a different manner.

And also part of the reason why ppl in the Old Testament even have forgiveness of sins is because of Jesus sacrifice and their obedience to God's word. The forgiveness is IN Christ. The blood of JESUS washes away sins. And also obeying the word of God saves people from condemnation.