Aang vs Storm

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Shizlansky;7461177 said:
I may be wrong but don't storm have to make storm clouds first to create lighting.

Yes and no. She can create and use lightning at the speed of thought, it's unknown if she needs clouds, but she can make them just as fast too.
 
Are there books w/ Aang as an adult? If not then we must assume that Aang, after 10-20 years of having been fully Avatar, must be light-years beyond what we saw of him as a child Avatar. I think he wins this battle.
 
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Parallel;7472284 said:
Jonah 2.0;7472064 said:
Are there books w/ Aang as an adult? If not then we must assume that Aang, after 10-20 years of having been fully Avatar, must be light-years beyond what we saw of him as a child Avatar. I think he wins this battle.

Unfair assumption imo

How so? Isn't adult Storm light-years beyond child Storm?

 
We see what adult master benders can do with their respective elements.

It's a given that a fully realized Avatar is capable of everything regular benders are plus more. Look at how Roku handled Sozin like a chump and the firelord is the powerful fire bender.
 
Then what's the point in the thread? With it being Adult Aang vs Storm there has to be assumptions made. Either an assumption that Aang's power level/skill never increased or the assumption that they increased over time like damn near every other "super hero".
 
Bender Rodriguez;7472551 said:
I honestly think this shit is a tie... They can both counter each others powers. Nobody has posted anything the other hasnt done before

Their powers work differently and they definitely do things the other can't.

Storm can't create fire from nothing or manipulate Earth and Aang can't shoot ice from his hands. Just as an example.
 
soul rattler;7473357 said:
Bender Rodriguez;7472551 said:
I honestly think this shit is a tie... They can both counter each others powers. Nobody has posted anything the other hasnt done before

Their powers work differently and they definitely do things the other can't.

Storm can't create fire from nothing or manipulate Earth and Aang can't shoot ice from his hands. Just as an example.

Aang also can't create a city or country wide storm that engulfs everything. He can't even shoot lightning the way Storm can, he has to redirect it. And Storm can create plasma and has made earthquakes on occasion.
 
DarkRaiden;7475118 said:
soul rattler;7473357 said:
Bender Rodriguez;7472551 said:
I honestly think this shit is a tie... They can both counter each others powers. Nobody has posted anything the other hasnt done before

Their powers work differently and they definitely do things the other can't.

Storm can't create fire from nothing or manipulate Earth and Aang can't shoot ice from his hands. Just as an example.

Aang also can't create a city or country wide storm that engulfs everything. He can't even shoot lightning the way Storm can, he has to redirect it. And Storm can create plasma and has made earthquakes on occasion.

How exactly would a country wide storm make a difference in a one on one fight? Everyone can agree that Storm can affect the elements on a way larger scale than Aang, but that doesn't really matter in the context of this discussion.

And if Aang has learned how to lightning bend then he can recreate it. The whole redirecting lightning is just one of the steps to learning how to do it. Those who know how to do it can create their own lightning just like they create their own fire.
 
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The Lonious Monk;7476596 said:
DarkRaiden;7475118 said:
soul rattler;7473357 said:
Bender Rodriguez;7472551 said:
I honestly think this shit is a tie... They can both counter each others powers. Nobody has posted anything the other hasnt done before

Their powers work differently and they definitely do things the other can't.

Storm can't create fire from nothing or manipulate Earth and Aang can't shoot ice from his hands. Just as an example.

Aang also can't create a city or country wide storm that engulfs everything. He can't even shoot lightning the way Storm can, he has to redirect it. And Storm can create plasma and has made earthquakes on occasion.

How exactly would a country wide storm make a difference in a one on one fight? Everyone can agree that Storm can affect the elements on a way larger scale than Aang, but that doesn't really matter in the context of this discussion.

And if Aang has learned how to lightning bend then he can recreate it. The whole redirecting lightning is just one of the steps to learning how to do it. Those who know how to do it can create their own lightning just like they create their own fire.

Aang can't do that though....not from what's been shown.

And a country/city-wide storm means she can engulf the entire area and not even worry about aiming or trying to hit him, a storm with that much energy would be destructive enough to easily wipe out an opponent in 1v1 combat unless they were super durable which Aang is not.
 
DarkRaiden;7477958 said:
The Lonious Monk;7476596 said:
DarkRaiden;7475118 said:
soul rattler;7473357 said:
Bender Rodriguez;7472551 said:
I honestly think this shit is a tie... They can both counter each others powers. Nobody has posted anything the other hasnt done before

Their powers work differently and they definitely do things the other can't.

Storm can't create fire from nothing or manipulate Earth and Aang can't shoot ice from his hands. Just as an example.

Aang also can't create a city or country wide storm that engulfs everything. He can't even shoot lightning the way Storm can, he has to redirect it. And Storm can create plasma and has made earthquakes on occasion.

How exactly would a country wide storm make a difference in a one on one fight? Everyone can agree that Storm can affect the elements on a way larger scale than Aang, but that doesn't really matter in the context of this discussion.

And if Aang has learned how to lightning bend then he can recreate it. The whole redirecting lightning is just one of the steps to learning how to do it. Those who know how to do it can create their own lightning just like they create their own fire.

Aang can't do that though....not from what's been shown.

And a country/city-wide storm means she can engulf the entire area and not even worry about aiming or trying to hit him, a storm with that much energy would be destructive enough to easily wipe out an opponent in 1v1 combat unless they were super durable which Aang is not.

It would be destructive enough to easily wipe out an opponent IF that opponent couldn't bend those very elements nullifying them. Aang doesn't have to counter the entire countrywide storm. He only had to defend against the part that's a threat to him, which he could do.
 
The Lonious Monk;7478024 said:
DarkRaiden;7477958 said:
The Lonious Monk;7476596 said:
DarkRaiden;7475118 said:
soul rattler;7473357 said:
Bender Rodriguez;7472551 said:
I honestly think this shit is a tie... They can both counter each others powers. Nobody has posted anything the other hasnt done before

Their powers work differently and they definitely do things the other can't.

Storm can't create fire from nothing or manipulate Earth and Aang can't shoot ice from his hands. Just as an example.

Aang also can't create a city or country wide storm that engulfs everything. He can't even shoot lightning the way Storm can, he has to redirect it. And Storm can create plasma and has made earthquakes on occasion.

How exactly would a country wide storm make a difference in a one on one fight? Everyone can agree that Storm can affect the elements on a way larger scale than Aang, but that doesn't really matter in the context of this discussion.

And if Aang has learned how to lightning bend then he can recreate it. The whole redirecting lightning is just one of the steps to learning how to do it. Those who know how to do it can create their own lightning just like they create their own fire.

Aang can't do that though....not from what's been shown.

And a country/city-wide storm means she can engulf the entire area and not even worry about aiming or trying to hit him, a storm with that much energy would be destructive enough to easily wipe out an opponent in 1v1 combat unless they were super durable which Aang is not.

It would be destructive enough to easily wipe out an opponent IF that opponent couldn't bend those very elements nullifying them. Aang doesn't have to counter the entire countrywide storm. He only had to defend against the part that's a threat to him, which he could do.

The fact that Storm can make a country-wide storm with the power to overpower Hulk, Sentinels, etc. proves she has the brute force factor over Aang. If it comes down to control vs. control Storm wins cause she's stronger and faster by a large margin. Plus she can do multiple at once, aang won't be able to keep up.
 
DarkRaiden;7480550 said:
The Lonious Monk;7478024 said:
DarkRaiden;7477958 said:
The Lonious Monk;7476596 said:
DarkRaiden;7475118 said:
soul rattler;7473357 said:
Bender Rodriguez;7472551 said:
I honestly think this shit is a tie... They can both counter each others powers. Nobody has posted anything the other hasnt done before

Their powers work differently and they definitely do things the other can't.

Storm can't create fire from nothing or manipulate Earth and Aang can't shoot ice from his hands. Just as an example.

Aang also can't create a city or country wide storm that engulfs everything. He can't even shoot lightning the way Storm can, he has to redirect it. And Storm can create plasma and has made earthquakes on occasion.

How exactly would a country wide storm make a difference in a one on one fight? Everyone can agree that Storm can affect the elements on a way larger scale than Aang, but that doesn't really matter in the context of this discussion.

And if Aang has learned how to lightning bend then he can recreate it. The whole redirecting lightning is just one of the steps to learning how to do it. Those who know how to do it can create their own lightning just like they create their own fire.

Aang can't do that though....not from what's been shown.

And a country/city-wide storm means she can engulf the entire area and not even worry about aiming or trying to hit him, a storm with that much energy would be destructive enough to easily wipe out an opponent in 1v1 combat unless they were super durable which Aang is not.

It would be destructive enough to easily wipe out an opponent IF that opponent couldn't bend those very elements nullifying them. Aang doesn't have to counter the entire countrywide storm. He only had to defend against the part that's a threat to him, which he could do.

The fact that Storm can make a country-wide storm with the power to overpower Hulk, Sentinels, etc. proves she has the brute force factor over Aang. If it comes down to control vs. control Storm wins cause she's stronger and faster by a large margin. Plus she can do multiple at once, aang won't be able to keep up.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that. If cats in here don't want to allow for the speculation that Aang improved his skills as he grew up, there is no way that you can assume that Storm can overpower Aang. Being able to do more of something is not the same as being able to do something better. Once again, Storm creating a huge hurricane where 99.9999% of its power will have no effect on Aang is meaningless. He doesn't have to bend the whole hurricane. He only has to bend the relatively miniscule portion of it that will affect him. And it's irrelevant what the brute force of the hurricane can do to Hulk or a Sentinel. Aang doesn't have to withstand the brute force of the elements because he can literally control them. He doesn't have to stop the wind. He can just funnel it around himself.

Frankly, even is Storm could win, it wouldn't be using the strategy that you guys keep bringing up. Once again, it does not matter that Storm can affect the elements on a larger scale than Aang. Making countrywide hurricanes and things on that level would be a supreme waste of energy when fighting a single person and definitely takes more focus and effort on Storm's part than simply using attacks that can easily be directed on Aang.
 
The Lonious Monk;7480810 said:
DarkRaiden;7480550 said:
The Lonious Monk;7478024 said:
DarkRaiden;7477958 said:
The Lonious Monk;7476596 said:
DarkRaiden;7475118 said:
soul rattler;7473357 said:
Bender Rodriguez;7472551 said:
I honestly think this shit is a tie... They can both counter each others powers. Nobody has posted anything the other hasnt done before

Their powers work differently and they definitely do things the other can't.

Storm can't create fire from nothing or manipulate Earth and Aang can't shoot ice from his hands. Just as an example.

Aang also can't create a city or country wide storm that engulfs everything. He can't even shoot lightning the way Storm can, he has to redirect it. And Storm can create plasma and has made earthquakes on occasion.

How exactly would a country wide storm make a difference in a one on one fight? Everyone can agree that Storm can affect the elements on a way larger scale than Aang, but that doesn't really matter in the context of this discussion.

And if Aang has learned how to lightning bend then he can recreate it. The whole redirecting lightning is just one of the steps to learning how to do it. Those who know how to do it can create their own lightning just like they create their own fire.

Aang can't do that though....not from what's been shown.

And a country/city-wide storm means she can engulf the entire area and not even worry about aiming or trying to hit him, a storm with that much energy would be destructive enough to easily wipe out an opponent in 1v1 combat unless they were super durable which Aang is not.

It would be destructive enough to easily wipe out an opponent IF that opponent couldn't bend those very elements nullifying them. Aang doesn't have to counter the entire countrywide storm. He only had to defend against the part that's a threat to him, which he could do.

The fact that Storm can make a country-wide storm with the power to overpower Hulk, Sentinels, etc. proves she has the brute force factor over Aang. If it comes down to control vs. control Storm wins cause she's stronger and faster by a large margin. Plus she can do multiple at once, aang won't be able to keep up.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that. If cats in here don't want to allow for the speculation that Aang improved his skills as he grew up, there is no way that you can assume that Storm can overpower Aang. Being able to do more of something is not the same as being able to do something better. Once again, Storm creating a huge hurricane where 99.9999% of its power will have no effect on Aang is meaningless. He doesn't have to bend the whole hurricane. He only has to bend the relatively miniscule portion of it that will affect him. And it's irrelevant what the brute force of the hurricane can do to Hulk or a Sentinel. Aang doesn't have to withstand the brute force of the elements because he can literally control them. He doesn't have to stop the wind. He can just funnel it around himself.

Frankly, even is Storm could win, it wouldn't be using the strategy that you guys keep bringing up. Once again, it does not matter that Storm can affect the elements on a larger scale than Aang. Making countrywide hurricanes and things on that level would be a supreme waste of energy when fighting a single person and definitely takes more focus and effort on Storm's part than simply using attacks that can easily be directed on Aang.

The first part....she's shown significantly more power than Aang with her storms than he has with....anything he's ever done. With 0 speculation and using only feats you would literally have to say she overpowers him. She has the feats to prove it.

Second part, not true and a no limit fallacy. Just because you can control something doesn't mean it can never hurt you despite the force. Ask any energy manipulator that gets overloaded. That's like saying Aan could manipulate Thor's Wind of a thousand worlds (that beat a skyfather) because he can control wind. It doesn't work that way.

Also Storm's exhibited more control than Aang. She's fought elementals and controlled their very being. She's taken control of other people's storms, she uses the wind to sense, defend, attack, fly, vortex,suffocate,funnel planet ripping power, etc. all at the speed of thought. She literally used lightning to not only give her life force back, she's used it as a shield. They're two different levels and Storm's lightyears above Aang.

And Aang doesn't even control lightning so he's dead with that anyways.
 
soul rattler;7483175 said:
That's all well and good, but Storm doesn't have an answer for energy bending. That's where she dies.

Ignoring the fact that Aang will be bombarded by attacks and won't get a chance to event ry that, energy bending only works in the Avatarverse. There's no reason it would work on Storm who doesn't bend elements with her chi or w/e. It's in her genes.

 

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