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zzombie;8895763 said:
they didn't pick up any beliefs from Hinduism they just use few Hindi words and by a few I mean 2 maybe 3

a deeper analysis will find that the Hindu culture has had an immense, largely unacknowledged influence on Jamaican culture and the early stages of Rastafari.

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Indian indentured servants ... brought to Jamaica the Hindu practices of ganja consumption for spiritual and medicinal purposes, mystical religious practices, and a vegetarian diet. Their greatest contribution was not culinary but in the realm of spirituality. Indians had astronomical influence on the early tenets of Rastafari.

The leading father of this movement that preached pride in one’s African ancestry, living close to nature, and self-sufficiency, Leonard Howell, borrowed many of the early tenets of the Rastafari movement from Indians.

The ital diet, a more disciplined form of vegetarianism, derives directly from the influence of indentured servants who were vegetarians continuing an ancient practice from India.

The use of ganja/marijuana for spiritual and medicinal purposes has influenced not just members of Rastafari but Jamaicans in the countryside who resided alongside Indians. Though it is true Africans utilized marijuana for the same purpose, Indians are responsible for its arrival in Jamaica. Ironically, the British were the main suppliers of marijuana to Indians in Jamaica before it was criminalized in 1938. Jamaicans of African descent observed Indians’ ceremonial use of the ‘herb’ and adopted the practices. Practitioners of Kumina, a West African tradition, also utilized marijuana to communicate with their ancestors.

Joseph Hibbert, another founding father of Rastafari, acknowledged the Hindu influence on Leonard Howell in an interview with Leonard Howell’s biographer Helene Lee. “After learning about the Hindu God incarnates Rama, Krishna and Buddha, Howell was convinced that every nation had their own God.” Leonard found his African god in the crowning of Emperor Selassie of Ethiopia.

http://thyblackman.com/2016/01/11/indian-influence-on-jamaican-culture-and-growth-of-rastafari/

 
The Mansingh studies have enumerated Howell's innumerable borrowings

from the Indians --- his name Gangunguru Maragh

(from gyan, knowledge; guna, virtue; guru, teacher; and Maharadj,

King); his prayers' use of Hindi words; his concept of a God-King;

the sacramental use of ganja, meditation, vegetarian cooking and

spices, and even the holy salutation --- 'Jah! Rastafari!'

One can hear the loud chants of Jai Bhagwan, Jai Rama, Jai

Krishna, or Jai Kali (victory to God/Rama/Krishna/Kali) at any

private or community Hindu Pooja or prayer meeting...As Ras

Tafari gained the status of African Lord Rama/Krishna during

the 1940s, phonetic usage of the word Jai was continued. But

Rama, Krishna and Kali were replaced by Ras Tafari. Searching

the Old Testament...the Rastas found the word Jah, which is

phonetically similar to the Hindi word Jai.

Howell not only borrowed some exotic words and rituals

from the Indians to feed the fancies of an illiterate audience, he also

adopted a way of thinking. Indian thought --- karma and rebirth---

provided him with a system that resolved the western dichotomy of

heaven and hell, Jesus and Satan, black and white, spirit and flesh.

https://books.google.com/books?id=JvdcDJ2GEVAC&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=laloo+howell&source=bl&ots=_JRsuh019C&sig=gTQ7b4tDvZ4vxQ9qNujGTwy70QI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGqLHBmfTLAhUCdh4KHbsdATcQ6AEIHzAB#v=onepage&q=laloo%20howell&f=false
 
Many Lies and half truths have been written about rasta and the Hinduism connection it one of them.

The locs and ital diet are influenced by the nazareth vow not Hinduism.The founders knew about many religions but didn't infuse the beliefs of these religions into rasta.

Jah is not hindi jah is from the bible.
 
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zzombie;8895818 said:
Jah is not hindi jah is from the bible.

Reading is fundamental

Bodhi;8895809 said:
Searching

the Old Testament...the Rastas found the word Jah, which is

phonetically similar to the Hindi word Jai.

zzombie;8895818 said:
The locs and ital diet are influenced by the nazareth vow not Hinduism.The founders knew about many religions but didn't infuse the beliefs of these religions into rasta.

The Nazarite dietary laws were not vegetarian.

Not only did Indian food influence Rasta,

It also influenced the Jamaican culture as a whole, e.g. curry

Look up Ital...

Along with growing dreadlocks and the sacramental smoking of ganja, observing a vegetarian diet is one of the practices early Rastafari adopted from Indian Hindu indentured servants living in Jamaica. Rastafari's unofficial founder Leonard Howell, affectionately called "Gong" and "Gyangunguru Maragh," though not of Indian descent, was fascinated with Hindu practices and was instrumental in promoting a plant-based diet in the Rastafari community of Pinnacle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ital
 
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By the way unsurprisingly the whole rasta comes from Hinduism bullshit theory is originally sourced to an east indian author.

Other races of people love stealing or claiming influence on black culture so before reading or quoting anything from someone named Singh remember that.
 
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Bodhi;8895852 said:
zzombie;8895818 said:
Jah is not hindi jah is from the bible.

Reading is fundamental

Bodhi;8895809 said:
Searching

the Old Testament...the Rastas found the word Jah, which is

phonetically similar to the Hindi word Jai.

zzombie;8895818 said:
The locs and ital diet are influenced by the nazareth vow not Hinduism.The founders knew about many religions but didn't infuse the beliefs of these religions into rasta.

The Nazarite dietary laws were not vegetarian.

Not only did Indian food influence Rasta,

It also influenced the Jamaican culture as a whole, e.g. curry

Look up Ital...

Along with growing dreadlocks and the sacramental smoking of ganja, observing a vegetarian diet is one of the practices early Rastafari adopted from Indian Hindu indentured servants living in Jamaica. Rastafari's unofficial founder Leonard Howell, affectionately called "Gong" and "Gyangunguru Maragh," though not of Indian descent, was fascinated with Hindu practices and was instrumental in promoting a plant-based diet in the Rastafari community of Pinnacle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ital

You learn to read.

I said they were influenced by not copied totally.
 
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zzombie;8895873 said:
You cannot learn the real truth about rasta from Wikipedia.

1. We're on the internet

2. Wikipedia hasn't been my only source. Wikipedia is more credible than you anyway. You might not even be from Jamaica.
 
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Bodhi;8895871 said:
zzombie;8895858 said:
You learn to read.

I said they were influenced by not copied totally.

You said Jah is not Hindi. Nobody

Said that. Again, reading is fundamental.

Read what you quoted. I said jah is not hindi because what you quoted alluded to people replacing words/using hindi words.
 
Bodhi;8895876 said:
zzombie;8895873 said:
You cannot learn the real truth about rasta from Wikipedia.

1. We're on the internet

2. Wikipedia hasn't been my only source. Wikipedia is more credible than you anyway. You might not even be from Jamaica.

Your other source get it's information from an east Indian author therefore it's biased

You may be a fat balding Buddhist transsexual ladyboy from Thailand.
 
zzombie;8895883 said:
Bodhi;8895871 said:
zzombie;8895858 said:
You learn to read.

I said they were influenced by not copied totally.

You said Jah is not Hindi. Nobody

Said that. Again, reading is fundamental.

Read what you quoted. I said jah is not hindi because what you quoted alluded to people replacing words/using hindi words.

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It says Jah is phonetically similar to the Hindi word Jai

Not that Jah is a Hindi word.

You said Jah is not a Hindi word

But nobody said it was.
 
No jamaicans or even other west indian people on this forum agree with you and Rastafarianism is part of our culture so we are the most qualified to speak on it. Not some African American Buddhist who has never been to Jamaican or been to a groundation.
 
Bodhi;8895889 said:
zzombie;8895883 said:
Bodhi;8895871 said:
zzombie;8895858 said:
You learn to read.

I said they were influenced by not copied totally.

You said Jah is not Hindi. Nobody

Said that. Again, reading is fundamental.

Read what you quoted. I said jah is not hindi because what you quoted alluded to people replacing words/using hindi words.

giphy.gif


It says Jah is phonetically similar to the Hindi word Jai

Not that Jah is a Hindi word.

You said Jah is not a Hindi word

But nobody said it was.

Read all of what you quoted jackass you are being blatantly dishonest.
 
zzombie;8895888 said:
Your other source get it's information from an east Indian author therefore it's biased

Where is the bias being shown?

Before you answer, look at the definition of the word bias

Because I don't think you know what the word means.

 
zzombie;8895895 said:
Read all of what you quoted jackass you are being blatantly dishonest.

It says exactly what I said it does.

it obviously isn't registering for you yet.

zzombie;8895891 said:
No jamaicans or even other west indian people on this forum agree with you and Rastafarianism is part of our culture so we are the most qualified to speak on it. Not some African American Buddhist who has never been to Jamaican or been to a groundation.

I don't know ya'll.

Nor do I care about what's popular.

Neither you nor anyone else has said anything

To discredit what's been said so I guess

We can leave it at that until it happens.
 
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Bodhi;8895896 said:
zzombie;8895888 said:
Your other source get it's information from an east Indian author therefore it's biased

Where is the bias being shown?

Before you answer, look at the definition of the word bias

Because I don't think you know what the word means.

You don't understand the cultural friction between blacks and coolies in the west Indies of course a coolie is going to claim they influenced something they had next to nothing to do with because they favor their group and look down on blacks especially the coolies of mansingh generation.
 
Bodhi;8895912 said:
zzombie;8895895 said:
Read all of what you quoted jackass you are being blatantly dishonest.

It says exactly what I said it does.

it obviously isn't registering for you yet.

zzombie;8895891 said:
No jamaicans or even other west indian people on this forum agree with you and Rastafarianism is part of our culture so we are the most qualified to speak on it. Not some African American Buddhist who has never been to Jamaican or been to a groundation.

I don't know ya'll.

Nor do I care about what's popular.

Neither you nor anyone else has said anything

To discredit what's been said so I guess

We can leave it at that until it happens.

I discredited your bullshit long ago and I wasn't the only one. What hasn't registered to you yet is the meaning of the word alluded
 

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