A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION (between an atheist professor and a christian student)

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bdbdbd said:
SOmething i saw on Fb and thought was interesting, most of you wont read it but those of you who will i think will find it interesting.....me, i thought it very interesting, and i am not religious, but do believe in God...hope a few can make it to the end

An Atheist Professor of Philosophy was speaking to his Class on the Problem Science has

With GOD , the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of his New Christian Students to stand and . . .

Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor : So, you Believe in GOD ?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Professor : Is GOD Good ?

Student : Sure.

Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?

Student : Yes.

Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(Student was silent )

Professor : You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, Young Fella.

Is GOD Good?

Student : Yes.

Professor : Is Satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor : Where does Satan come from ?

Student : From . . . GOD . . .

Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this World?

Student : Yes.

Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Professor : So who created evil ?

(Student did not answer)

Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?

All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor : So, who Created them ?

(Student ha d no answer)

Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you. Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?

Student : No, sir.

Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?

Student : No , sir.

Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD , Tasted your GOD , Smelt your GOD ? Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?

Student : Yes.

Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.

Professor : Yes, Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?

Professor : Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?

Professor : Yes.

Student : No, sir. There isn't..

(The Lecture Theatre became very quiet with this turn of events )

Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat,

a Little Heat or No Heat.

But we don't have anything called Cold.

We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that.

There is no such thing as Cold.

Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.

We cannot Measure Cold.

Heat is Energy.

Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.

(There was Pin-Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )

Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?

Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness?

Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the Absence of Something

You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light . . . But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and its called Darkness, isn't it? In reality, Darkness isn't. If it is, were you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you?

Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?

Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.

Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality. You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD. You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought. It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing.

Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it

Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved from a Monkey?

Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shook his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument was going )

Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and Cannot even prove that this Process is an On-Going Endeavor,

Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?

Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?

(The Class was in Uproar )

Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen the Professor's Brain?

(The Class broke out into Laughter )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's Brain, Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . . .

No one appears to have done so.

So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that You have No Brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?

(The Room was Silent. The Professor stared at the Student, his face unfathomable)

Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.

Student : That is it sir . . . Exactly !

The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH.

That is all that Keeps Things Alive and Moving.

NB:

I believe you have enjoyed the Conversation . . . and if so .. .

You'll probably want your Friends / Colleagues to enjoy the same . . . won't you?

Forward them to Increase their Knowledge . . . or FAITH.

That student was Albert Einstein.

Props Gee, good read.

 
FucktheIC;4298042 said:
I'm not even going to point out the fallacies on each side of this fictitious argument. Let us take it at face value.

Is his argument really that since I can't disprove God he has to exist?

I can't disprove time travel either, but I'm not gonna hop into a fuckin' Delorean and hope for the best.

Same shit I said.

And sad thing is, this is the ultimate trump card for a lot of christians when debating theology. Even IF YOU COULD fully disprove all science relating to the origin of the Universe and the evolution of life, "Yahweh did it" is still somehow the absolute correct answer, despite the literal thousands of belief relating to the birth of the universe with nearly just as much merit as "Yahweh did it"?

Okay.

 
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People in GNS can have good long convos about religion and stuff I've seen it, but they won't venture to R&R to talk about it. And it's only a few clicks away. Always wondered why.
 
Bible thumpers need to get better with these emails they create for a mass forwarding circle jerk

Neither one of these arguments were good
 
BiblicalAtheist;4298344 said:
People in GNS can have good long convos about religion and stuff I've seen it, but they won't venture to R&R to talk about it. And it's only a few clicks away. Always wondered why.
Them niggas ain't bout it bout it:
 
tru_m.a.c;4298865 said:
supaman4321;4298587 said:
Science does not eliminate God it eliminates models of God

but if your idea of God rest within the confines of a religion you've been eliminated
And if its only attributable features are "it's beyond human understanding" or "it can't be disproven", then it eliminates itself.

Lose-lose.
 
this argument will go on til the end of time..if theists are wrong it will be no big deal..but if atheists are wrong its a wrap for that ass
 
damnkp;4299127 said:
this argument will go on til the end of time..if theists are wrong it will be no big deal..but if atheists are wrong its a wrap for that ass

That almost makes it seem like theist are afraid of being wrong, so they pick the safe option.

Kinda of like me not being sure if the boogeyman exist so I make sure to leave a nightlight on at all times.

It's why I tend to call theists bitch ass niggas if they are using that as their reason to believe.
 
damnkp;4299127 said:
this argument will go on til the end of time..if theists are wrong it will be no big deal..but if atheists are wrong its a wrap for that ass

no its fuckn not

this is where the other argument from atheist about ppl not exposed to certain religions comes into play

if I'm going to hell because I don't believe, then what happens to ppl of indigenous tribes who have no idea what the Abrahamic God is

*insert the purgatory/limbo idea*

 
"Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"

Priest: "No, not if you did not know."

Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"


-Anne Dillard
 
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BoldChild;4299141 said:
damnkp;4299127 said:
this argument will go on til the end of time..if theists are wrong it will be no big deal..but if atheists are wrong its a wrap for that ass

That almost makes it seem like theist are afraid of being wrong, so they pick the safe option.

Kinda of like me not being sure if the boogeyman exist so I make sure to leave a nightlight on at all times.

It's why I tend to call theists bitch ass niggas if they are using that as their reason to believe.

not my reason for belief..but its true
 
tru_m.a.c;4299154 said:
damnkp;4299127 said:
this argument will go on til the end of time..if theists are wrong it will be no big deal..but if atheists are wrong its a wrap for that ass

no its fuckn not

this is where the other argument from atheist about ppl not exposed to certain religions comes into play

if I'm going to hell because I don't believe, then what happens to ppl of indigenous tribes who have no idea what the Abrahamic God is

*insert the purgatory/limbo idea*

that's why there are missionaries to spread the word of God

 
BoldChild;4299141 said:
damnkp;4299127 said:
this argument will go on til the end of time..if theists are wrong it will be no big deal..but if atheists are wrong its a wrap for that ass

That almost makes it seem like theist are afraid of being wrong, so they pick the safe option.

Kinda of like me not being sure if the boogeyman exist so I make sure to leave a nightlight on at all times.

It's why I tend to call theists bitch ass niggas if they are using that as their reason to believe.

just tell em to look up pascal's wager

 

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