A Tribe Called Quest vs. Michael Rapaport? *SPOILERS*

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Yeah, definitely. It's funny because it makes sense for that to be the case, but I remember discovering hip hop like it only just hit me… then when I started to look into the history, I was like, 'I've enjoyed all of these songs before' :lol:

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Yeah, sounds like the rift wasn't that much after MM either, shame because you can see both of their reasons as valid, but IMO, Q-Tip comes across as hard headed; as someone who knows how good they are and is no longer on the humble *forgive me* tip. Where as Phife comes across as bitter before the break in the first place and should have seen that one coming…

Definitely a great documentary though and I agree on those sentiments, can't believe Phife's wife did that for him… *daps*

Thats how I remember all the classic songs to be honest, I was young and heard them again and again until I got older and understood them...channels like MTV, BET, the BOX, VH1, they all helped me in remembering those classics!!

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Oh my God, that was deep what Phife's wife did for him, definitely an angel was looking out for him!! People in the theater were crying on that one, very deep!! The breakdown with Phife and Q-Tip is like this...since the beginning Q was in terms the main voice of the group while Phife and Jarobi came in backup especially during their debut album! (What Phife said about that was funny). So of course people are going to look at the main guy in Q-Tip, and I have to admit Q-Tip was a genius when it came to looking for hooks in samples, definitely inspirational to any aspiring producer/DJ. But sometimes being the one that is actually doing the grunt work per say does make you feel like you're a leader and I think thats the case with Q. Phife on the other hand was starting to pick it up especially during Low End Theory and thought on the strength of "hey this is a group thing right here", but the only thing was he started to get sick in which I believe he should've been more responsible but Q-Tip has to be more understanding of his friend's condition. Thats kinda ignorant Q, but I degress.

But the thing is, groups have all types of problems within the group, to me it seems inevitable. It has happened to the best groups in history, besides I think one of them said it, you get tired of each other once you have been in the group for a while and have been everywhere with them. The thing with Phife and Q-Tip is that they were best friends for along time..but once the business got in their lives, it sort of separated them. Thats what happens to these groups.

And I must say that Q-Tip did get Hollywood alittle bit, but believe it or not when Amplified came out, that was one of the albums that got me even more into the underground hip hop culture. I was thinking about rhyming at one time because of Q-Tip, I've never admitted that to anyone! Especially after watching this documentary I really realized that I could relate to Q at some points, from being a Computer Science major to even having my own rifts with my own friends (we didn't start a group, lol but we were a collection of friends) and I felt we were going our separate ways more recently. Outta the main squad, I was the one who stayed in school, graduated college, working on my career..so thats why I could relate to Q-Tip, even Jarobi from now me realizing!

...Damn that was alot lol, oh and Lucy Pearl was my shit back in the day, my mom loved that group as well!!

 

[tru_m.a.c]

so where can I get/watch this doc

 

[traestar]

so where can I get/watch this doc

http://www.sonyclassics.com/beatsrhymesandlife/dates.html

 

[tru_m.a.c]

http://www.sonyclassics.com/beatsrhymesandlife/dates.html

much respect!

 

[RuffDraft]

Thats how I remember all the classic songs to be honest, I was young and heard them again and again until I got older and understood them...channels like MTV, BET, the BOX, VH1, they all helped me in remembering those classics!!

True, but then all I had back then was the radio, so some of the classics you probably remember, I may not… it's funny 'cos as a lil kid I liked TLC and shit (when I was like 9 or somethin'), same with 2pac, Coolio and a bunch of others. Not forgetting Kenan and Kel lol.

Movie Spoilers:
Oh my God, that was deep what Phife's wife did for him, definitely an angel was looking out for him!! People in the theater were crying on that one, very deep!!

No doubt, I couldn't believe it and it was great to see that he was so dumbfounded by what she did, like he didn't take it for granted to have a woman like that in his life. Definitely dope… I also liked that she was a level headed woman telling him straight about his relationship with Tip and that he was hard-headed and that she felt sorry for the other two members. She even stated herself as a fan of Tribe herself, which is definitely cool.

The breakdown with Phife and Q-Tip is like this...since the beginning Q was in terms the main voice of the group while Phife and Jarobi came in backup especially during their debut album! (What Phife said about that was funny). So of course people are going to look at the main guy in Q-Tip, and I have to admit Q-Tip was a genius when it came to looking for hooks in samples, definitely inspirational to any aspiring producer/DJ. But sometimes being the one that is actually doing the grunt work per say does make you feel like you're a leader and I think thats the case with Q. Phife on the other hand was starting to pick it up especially during Low End Theory and thought on the strength of "hey this is a group thing right here", but the only thing was he started to get sick in which I believe he should've been more responsible but Q-Tip has to be more understanding of his friend's condition. Thats kinda ignorant Q, but I degress.

No doubt, but at the same time, the reason for their success was Q-Tip's perfectionism and I can understand how, if Q was watching him hitting all the sugary drinks and not seeing too much of an affect in the beginning that he would think all was cool… especially considering how diabetes is one of those illnesses that people kinda play down when it can actually be as serious as he had it…

Besides that, definitely agree with the Low End Theory and Phife coming more and more into it as was discussed in the documentary, it's definitely how you stated in that it was a group thing and that's why I've always coincided with Tip before seeing the documentary because Tip always put Tribe down even though it was his production. Amazing how he did the drums and shit for 'Can I Kick It', which going back to earlier, is a track I loved on the radio as a kid.

But the thing is, groups have all types of problems within the group, to me it seems inevitable. It has happened to the best groups in history, besides I think one of them said it, you get tired of each other once you have been in the group for a while and have been everywhere with them. The thing with Phife and Q-Tip is that they were best friends for along time..but once the business got in their lives, it sort of separated them. Thats what happens to these groups.

And I must say that Q-Tip did get Hollywood alittle bit, but believe it or not when Amplified came out, that was one of the albums that got me even more into the underground hip hop culture. I was thinking about rhyming at one time because of Q-Tip, I've never admitted that to anyone! Especially after watching this documentary I really realized that I could relate to Q at some points, from being a Computer Science major to even having my own rifts with my own friends (we didn't start a group, lol but we were a collection of friends) and I felt we were going our separate ways more recently. Outta the main squad, I was the one who stayed in school, graduated college, working on my career..so thats why I could relate to Q-Tip, even Jarobi from now me realizing!

...Damn that was alot lol, oh and Lucy Pearl was my shit back in the day, my mom loved that group as well!!

LOL @ bolded, the same for me too haha. All my friends stayed at home instead of studying, but we've stayed cool through time and still pretty close now, although my friends from Uni are definitely closer friends.

haha I've played this Lucy Pearl track loads:

[video=youtube;lMch9WhzpRw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMch9WhzpRw[/video]

Such a great beat, I need to get their album again.

 

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True, but then all I had back then was the radio, so some of the classics you probably remember, I may not… it's funny 'cos as a lil kid I liked TLC and shit (when I was like 9 or somethin'), same with 2pac, Coolio and a bunch of others. Not forgetting Kenan and Kel lol.

All of that too, bro!! My cousin was a bigger fan of TLC than I was!! And I loved TLC!!

No doubt, I couldn't believe it and it was great to see that he was so dumbfounded by what she did, like he didn't take it for granted to have a woman like that in his life. Definitely dope… I also liked that she was a level headed woman telling him straight about his relationship with Tip and that he was hard-headed and that she felt sorry for the other two members. She even stated herself as a fan of Tribe herself, which is definitely cool.

Thats what I'm saying, Phife definitely got a good one!!

No doubt, but at the same time, the reason for their success was Q-Tip's perfectionism and I can understand how, if Q was watching him hitting all the sugary drinks and not seeing too much of an affect in the beginning that he would think all was cool… especially considering how diabetes is one of those illnesses that people kinda play down when it can actually be as serious as he had it…

Besides that, definitely agree with the Low End Theory and Phife coming more and more into it as was discussed in the documentary, it's definitely how you stated in that it was a group thing and that's why I've always coincided with Tip before seeing the documentary because Tip always put Tribe down even though it was his production. Amazing how he did the drums and shit for 'Can I Kick It', which going back to earlier, is a track I loved on the radio as a kid.

Q-Tip even said that and really you...can't really blame anyone of that but Phife, even tho I think it was passed on to him. But exactly you have to stay on top of it!

And that Buggin video definitely was a classic, I loved that song and video especially with the eyes, haha!! Sometimes with being a perfectionist, it could really be exhausting...in fact thats one of the reasons why the rap game is so bogus right now, because people want to get in the game but aren't willing to put their heart and soul into projects. Tribe was definitely a favorite as a kid, I can say now and believe that (further more than Rawkus records) the Native Tongues Movement drove me to follow conscious rap even as young as 9 years old!!

[video=youtube;5Zz2DfwPsoc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zz2DfwPsoc&feature=fvst[/video]

LOL @ bolded, the same for me too haha. All my friends stayed at home instead of studying, but we've stayed cool through time and still pretty close now, although my friends from Uni are definitely closer friends.

And I mean we're all still close, we could hang at any time, but it's just we are growing up as my mom would say!

haha I've played this Lucy Pearl track loads:

[video=youtube;lMch9WhzpRw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMch9WhzpRw[/video]

Such a great beat, I need to get their album again.

I knew you'd post that, That Track was too BADASS!! Still to this day!! OMG, this track was amazing!!

 

[cobbland]

Rapaport was just on Tavis Smiley's show on PBS and stated that they smoothed some things over, but Tip was still angry about other parts of the film.

 

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Rapaport was just on Tavis Smiley's show on PBS and stated that they smoothed some things over, but Tip was still angry about other parts of the film.

Man Q-Tip was called out right there by Phife...then towards the end they showed the fight between him and Phife! And probably he felt like he was the enemy throughout the movie, to be honest it did reflect how he was to them but i think it was more in the sense of keeping their music crisp!! And then I think as soon as Q got into movies and all, he did start to steer away from the group and go for solo. That letter they talked about in the MTV interview is still weird tho, why would they try to prevent the group from getting credit if the movie was about them??

 

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peep the interview again,exactly what I said is exactly what they were talking about

http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/6332...ssues-with-michael-rappaport.jhtml#id=1659979

 

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This is Phife's response

http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/646960/phife-weighs-in-on-his-current-relationship-with-q-tip.jhtml

 

[RuffDraft]

And that Buggin video definitely was a classic, I loved that song and video especially with the eyes, haha!! Sometimes with being a perfectionist, it could really be exhausting...in fact thats one of the reasons why the rap game is so bogus right now, because people want to get in the game but aren't willing to put their heart and soul into projects. Tribe was definitely a favorite as a kid, I can say now and believe that (further more than Rawkus records) the Native Tongues Movement drove me to follow conscious rap even as young as 9 years old!!

LOL I loved the eyes too, funny video… both Midnight Marauders and Low End Theory are in my top 50 albums of all time (I'm sure they would be, if I made one, maybe one for the summer lol).

Agreed on the heart and soul into projects though and it might not even be their fault, labels dictate so much, sometimes it's hard to release your heart and soul when they want something that's fake from the start.

I'll peep those links later, props :tu

 

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LOL I loved the eyes too, funny video… both Midnight Marauders and Low End Theory are in my top 50 albums of all time (I'm sure they would be, if I made one, maybe one for the summer lol).

Agreed on the heart and soul into projects though and it might not even be their fault, labels dictate so much, sometimes it's hard to release your heart and soul when they want something that's fake from the start.

I'll peep those links later, props :tu

Oh My Gawd, RuffDraft...so freaking true!!
You can see it on Chris Lighty's face..you can see how some of those A&Rs were like or were becoming like just by watching the movie..Chris and Mr. Weiss! They are prime examples of how the labels began to dictate alot of the artist's work. Thats why the industry only gotten from bad to worse over the years!! Yea check out the interviews again, it definitely fills more of the spaces of what happen...ignore the Consequence interview tho, I like his music but that was just him looking like a fool to be honest with you!

 

[Ishi]

Uh what day is it today it 7/29/11 yet? That is when it plays in Dallas

 

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Uh what day is it today it 7/29/11 yet? That is when it plays in Dallas

Its been getting crazy love so far, You'll enjoy it!!

 

[RuffDraft]

Oh My Gawd, RuffDraft...so freaking true!!
You can see it on Chris Lighty's face..you can see how some of those A&Rs were like or were becoming like just by watching the movie..Chris and Mr. Weiss! They are prime examples of how the labels began to dictate alot of the artist's work. Thats why the industry only gotten from bad to worse over the years!! Yea check out the interviews again, it definitely fills more of the spaces of what happen...ignore the Consequence interview tho, I like his music but that was just him looking like a fool to be honest with you!

Is that film worth checking out?! Props on the links again, I've been really busy today, hopefully check them out tomorrow!!

 

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Is that film worth checking out?! Props on the links again, I've been really busy today, hopefully check them out tomorrow!!

I thought you've seen the movie?? Dang, I didn't want to give you anything about it!! The movie is WELL WORTH it.... the interviews are good too!!

 

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[video]http://launch.vidaroo.com/8880[/video]

here's a HOT97 interview last week

 

[ty the great]

Probably wont get a chance to watch till it leaks or the DVD, cause none of my theatres will get this, but I need to see this shit.

 

[RuffDraft]

I thought you've seen the movie?? Dang, I didn't want to give you anything about it!! The movie is WELL WORTH it.... the interviews are good too!!

My bad, I have seen the movie and it was great, I just meant the links that you posted up… I thought they were to a different documentary?

Probably wont get a chance to watch till it leaks or the DVD, cause none of my theatres will get this, but I need to see this shit.

This would be a release well worth searching Google for…

But definitely copping when it drops on DVD!

[video]http://launch.vidaroo.com/8880[/video]

here's a HOT97 interview last week

That's a dope video, lol @ Q-Tip working on a song for a year lol

Hopefully his cuts will make Watch the Throne!!!

 

[traestar]

Lol @ Ali saying he's been trying to get him to finish

Q-Tip last solo album is real good, I just didn't get a chance to get it