A breakdown of the players who were guarding Michael Jordan in those 6 NBA Finals..

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smokelahoma;1210235 said:
I was bout to say, where the fuck did that shit come from? Seems like players today are more frail and injury prone in all different types of sports. Its almost like you expect a major player on your team to be hurt before the end of the season.

When the players are bigger and they are moving faster than ever before, then yea, more people will get injured.

Makes sense to me...
 
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usmarin3;1207534 said:
Gary Payton was probably the greatest perimeter defender along with MJ during his time, there is a reason why he is called the glove
Russell was a tough physical defender too, the whole Jazz team was a physical team,and the NBA as a hole was more tougher in Jordans era. If yall thought Wade got a alot of bullshit foul shots in his Finals, Jordan would of tripled that by the way he was guarded
Majerle and the Suns - i remember them fouling the shit out of Jordan and him converting a bunch of 3 point play
Drexler was probably the second best 2 guard in Jordans era along with Mitch Richmond, but he was athletic and can play defense too, i thought Terry Porter guarded Jordan too.

Keep in mind that Jordan had to turn around and guard some of these guys too, he couldn't slack on defense either. Sure Pippen would sometimes take the best perimeter player, but Jordan would guard some of these guys.

this right here.......a lot of those dudes i remember were very good defenders...........

come on now they weren't putting no marshmellows on mj...........

are guys bigger and faster now?......yup.....

but that doesn't mean you're a better defender just b/c you're more athletic.............

ron artest and bruce bowen aren't considered great athletes..............but them muggfuckas are shut down defenders.............better defenders than majority of the guys in their positions that are bigger, more athletic, and faster...............
 
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BlackxChild;1207670 said:
Players actually are more tough now

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really...............
 
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Legend24;1210514 said:
Hahaha, this kid is serious bout his 90%.

If the game is 90% mental, why aren't dudes like Derek Fisher the best talents in the league?

It's more like 90% physical, 10% mental. Look at the dominant players in the game today... LeBron, Dwight, Durant, Wade, etc. Their physical attributes and skill set allow them to dominate, not their fucking mentality. They can still go out there and score 25ppg with their minds on cruise control because their basketball talent is far superior to others in the league.

If the game is 90% mental, how was a guy like Vince Carter considered one of the best SGs in the league for the first 10 years of his career? Dude had physical attributes that allowed him to do the things he did. If what you're sayin was the case, they'd throw draftees in a gym, make them write a fucking test and see who has the "mentality" to play pro ball.

Talent over basketball IQ... any GM will tell you that. That's why raw, high school talent would go first overall in the draft.

think about what you just wrote, it's a league where a great proportion of the players are athletic freaks but no IQ... them physical attributes don't last forever and when they fail that's when you see cats limited in what they can do, then again I like to think you can win the game in ya mind before the ball is even tossed in the air, but that's me. I'll conceed to you the argument
 
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Legend24;1210514 said:
Hahaha, this kid is serious bout his 90%.

If the game is 90% mental, why aren't dudes like Derek Fisher the best talents in the league?

It's more like 90% physical, 10% mental. Look at the dominant players in the game today... LeBron, Dwight, Durant, Wade, etc. Their physical attributes and skill set allow them to dominate, not their fucking mentality. They can still go out there and score 25ppg with their minds on cruise control because their basketball talent is far superior to others in the league.

If the game is 90% mental, how was a guy like Vince Carter considered one of the best SGs in the league for the first 10 years of his career? Dude had physical attributes that allowed him to do the things he did. If what you're sayin was the case, they'd throw draftees in a gym, make them write a fucking test and see who has the "mentality" to play pro ball.

Talent over basketball IQ... any GM will tell you that. That's why raw, high school talent would go first overall in the draft.

no genius...the DRAFT is 90% physical 10% mental

what is the #1 reason Sebastian Telfair sucks??? Whats the # 1 reason why teams don't want Swingmen??? Think about why you have a large influx of Europeans who last in the league as opposed to blacks athletes that are physically more gifted by dumb as a box of rocks and get put on the NBDL
 
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tru_m.a.c;1210964 said:
[video=youtube;vfuJS0SBSac]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfuJS0SBSac[/video]

that dude couldn't have been serious

lol I couldn't find a video with VC... So I had to settle

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[video=youtube;9vwkZTRN_tg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vwkZTRN_tg[/video] I can't help but wonder if KG said "Hey, Pierce how I do down there?" with Pierce saying "You gotta have tears man... a C for effort"
 
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Wait, Before I go off nh

What was the purpose of the thread. Seriously...
 
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Whats true is that there wasnt zones the players really couldn't compet with Mj's physicality a few of them on that list were near and some what equitable but his physical make up and athleticism dwarfed many of those people. and MJ.. is well MJ
 
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tru_m.a.c;1213800 said:
for T/S to try and discredit MJ

Ok, what i thought...

This shyt is disgusting. T/S probably a young ngga

1)Richard Dumas and Hersey Hawkins, especially, were great defensive players in their day...

2)This is what they call revisionist history.

Its like if u look at Kobe 20 yrs from now and say Tony Allen was guarding him. 20 years from now nggas wont know who the fuk Allen is, and wont rememeber how he gave/gives Kobe fits

Yall muthafukers dont know SHYT about basketball lmao and smh
 
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tru_m.a.c;1210957 said:
no genius...the DRAFT is 90% physical 10% mental

what is the #1 reason Sebastian Telfair sucks??? Whats the # 1 reason why teams don't want Swingmen??? Think about why you have a large influx of Europeans who last in the league as opposed to blacks athletes that are physically more gifted by dumb as a box of rocks and get put on the NBDL

Players get into the league based solely on their physical attributes all the time. Name me one basketball player who has ever gotten into the league based solely on their mental attributes? There are none, therefore... physical > mental when it comes to playing basketball.
 
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