EuropeanAndWhite
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Idi Amin Dada;3278297 said:
no sir. thats were most people are wrong. THEY have to prove evidence first.
wheres the evidence for their theory? if you play that game, please play it on both sides.
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no sir. thats were most people are wrong. THEY have to prove evidence first.
wheres the evidence for their theory? if you play that game, please play it on both sides.
vageneral08
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VIBE86;3276998 said:
ok so why would he just say that? he made it up? and what about the sound of an explosion at the beginning of the video?
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EuropeanAndWhite
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stop that detail talk. thats all just speculation! you're losing the big picture.
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vageneral08;3278342 said:
Yes, because there was an explosion lets jump to conclusions. It's not like there may have been generators, gas lines, cars, trucks or even something falling and hitting the ground. Let's not even take those things into consideration, I mean it make no logical sense because if I'm trying to pin this on the US Gov, of course I'm gonna say it's a bomb and that is therefore proof the the Trade Centers all fell due to a controlled demo.
Theorists love to say that it didn't take thousands or hundreds to pull off, because they know that the chances of the "secret" being kept would fail. Instead they keep it small, 20-50 people knew and set and did these things, chances of keeping track of people is easier and therefore secrets can be kept. Now imagine this as a cover up, it really is, guess who is involved?
Gov - FBI, CIA, President/Staff and more than likely their families
Future Presidents/Staff (they're bound to find out)
WTC owners
WTC Security
Mayors
Pilots
Media, remember they played some big part in fooling us some how
Firemen, you know, the ones who risked their lives
Police, again, the ones who risked their lives
Paramedics, who helped save others
Military, because they stood down and the "higher ups" weren't at impact site in the Pentagon. PLUS they were the ones who "planted" all the debris on the Pentagon lawn.
Witness's, all plants of course, because they made sure to say "airplane", "airliner", "American Airlines" etc
ALL people who caught it on film or camera, because the plane could've been fake.
AND Al Qaeda, or wait they had NOTHING to do with it.
Now imagine how many people that is and how much they are getting paid, because lets be honest it HAS to be a very large sum. Maybe that's why we're in debt and in a recession, hush money is being paid to all these dudes to shut them the fuck up. No "threat" would do. Money talks, right?
Now, yeah, what a mess. Not one spill of the beans? CT love to twist shit and make it what it is not. Already proven they tampered with videos to make it sound or seem like something happened when it didn't. Already proven they lie about numerous documents and situations. Already been debunked on numerous things which they don't claim anymore, they've moved on. Already proven they take people's testimonies and use one or two sentences and leave out the rest to make it seem like they were witness's to bombs and what not.
When you really pick it apart, it unravels fast as fuck. No video can be proof anymore, already keep getting debunk. When Alex Jones gets ethered at ground zero, he turns it into a sideshow by trying to humiliate the guy then turn to other tactics. There's no evidence, there's no argument, it's dead.
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EuropeanAndWhite
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some scientists actually found nano-thermite in the dust of the wtc towers. shit is highly explosive/burning and you can't get that shit in afghanistan. 
google niels harrit and nano-thermite. and do yourself a favor and take a look at the video link I postet some posts before. those are scientists, no crazy conspiracy theorists.
google niels harrit and nano-thermite. and do yourself a favor and take a look at the video link I postet some posts before. those are scientists, no crazy conspiracy theorists.
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EuropeanAndWhite;3279454 said:some scientists actually found nano-thermite in the dust of the wtc towers. shit is highly explosive/burning and you can't get that shit in afghanistan.
google niels harrit and nano-thermite. and do yourself a favor and take a look at the video link I postet some posts before. those are scientists, no crazy conspiracy theorists.
Why lie?
Scientists never found "nano thermite", they found "trace elements" that could be traced to this "nano thermite". Thing is so many differt things happened that day it can trace to anything, so much mixture of different particles, elements, liquids etc could form those things. It isn't just a definite nano thermite trace lol come on now.
Funny thing? Theroists claim it was used in small amounts, "painted" on. Yet demolition experts state they don't use it, don't know of it or have seen it. Theorists state they don't know much about it or how exactly it's used, and these are the "lead, professional experts" who have degrees in respectable places lol. First it was demolition usage now it's military shit lol come the fuck on.
Lies lies lies and keep looking stupid.
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lighthearted25
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Anyone heard that they found the hijacker's identification, i'm assuming passports or plane tickets, in the plane wreckage in PA. Not sure if that's true but if that was really reported then that's bullshit. How you find some paper in a plane wreckage.
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EuropeanAndWhite
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VIBE86;3279613 said:
i didnt lie, stop it. they found those elements and thats a fact. and thats all i said, no speculation about demolition. but this fact needs further investigation.
how do you explain the clear insider tradings with put options on both, united airlines and american airlines before 9/11? (some us based institution bought 95% of the put options of ual on september 6 - sais the 9/11 commission report)? this needs further investigation.
able danger - a program to observe muslim terrorists in the united states and watch their every move. the 9/11 commission report fails to mention that a year before the attacks able danger had identified 4 hijackers including mohammed atta. new york times - aug 2005. this needs further investigation
how is it that jane stanley is reporting the collapse of WTC7 live on bbc with the same building still standing in the background? i mean come on.
and i could go on. as i said there are 3 THEORIES INCLUDING THE OFFICIAL ONE. we need to know which one is true..
and stop your conspiracy theorist bashing. i agree with you that there are too much idiots out there telling shit, speculating and fantasizing a story together. Im not one of them, im no alex jones fan and i do believe the americans were on the moon lol. 9/11 basically replaced "communist" with "islamic terrorist". funny thing is that the worlds biggest oil reserves are in islamic countries.
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it's me bi***es
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europeanandwhite;3280699 said:
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Its no use! She has her mind made up, everybody is just goin in circles now and giving tha goverment what they want which is confusment and conflict. Everybody is a pawn in tha governments game vibe 86 is tha prime example...
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Jonas.dini
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Some of y'all who have so much to say about this should reconcentrate your energy into something worthwhile. That's why I'm so ardently anti conspiracy (in this case), I'm embarrassed by how much of the Left is on this stupid wild goose chase, and dragging the rest of us into the muck with them by association.
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EuropeanAndWhite
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VIBE86;3268232 said:
the exact same thing goes for george bush and the government. so what? they say this or that and you have to believe it. same with the media. be fair and play your game on both sides.
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EuropeanAndWhite;3280699 said:
You didn't say the found elements, you said "scientists found nano-thermite in the dust.." and no they didn't. Any thermite burns off within seconds, no trace of it would be left of the actual thermite. I said that ELEMENTS were found in the dust, which is correct. Yes I know that's a fact and if you're talking about thermite you are speculating about a demolition, fact. And it doesn't need further investigation, if so why?
1. We do not need to know the cause of the collapse, we already know why and all of the things combined: plane hit, rocked building extremely bad, fires from floors (tower 1) 70-110, plus more scattered fires and (tower 2) fires from a bit below 70-110. Flames were extremely visible from the cameras zoomed in on the Towers. People were hanging out windows and jumping, because of fire and intense heat. Enough to weaken the steel, unable to hold its own load, it collapses and collapses from point of impact. Tower 1 was hit from 94-98, the hit was pretty much straight and in the middle. Once it weakened, it fell, it was holding all that weight, and fell through the rest of the building as it was already weakened by the initial impact. Tower 2 was hit at 70ish, hit lower and flown in at an angle taking out not the middle, but the side. The weight holding from 70+ is more weight than from 94+, so that's why the second tower fell first. It's only logic and common sense to explain the obvious, you want to get technical we can search the internet for papers/documents for more analysis. Thermite was never found at the site, not even in "the pit".
I don't know but there's more people to add to the list of "who knew", so stock brokers and traders knew as well. Keep the list going, remember the "experts" of the 9/11 Truth group state it can take less than 100 to have any knowledge of this and to do all of this.
Again, put logic behind this and you could figure it out. Because there's a "known terrorist" should they jump on it and spook others? Or maybe follow them, some how observe them and see what their plans are, what they are doing here, why they are here etc? They investigate. I do know that these terrorist who lived in the US lived normal lives, after a while the gov. could've stated fuck it, they're nobodies. The best way to fake out someone is to blend in.
Because it had been known since 2pm that it was gonna collapse, it collapse at like 6pm? Maybe late 5 o'clock? Firemen already said it was buckling, it was obvious from ground level, plus sounds were creaking. Firemen were clearing out anyone around Trade 7, news got wind of it and announced that it did collapse instead of "it's going to collapse" easy mistake.
Please do go on.
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EuropeanAndWhite;3280953 said:
George Bush said nothing but terrorist did this, I can easily believe that because it is indeed true and the proof they have. Lists, passports found and video surveillance, what more do you need now? Bodies? Sorry, they were burnt up.
Even though the 9/11 Commission Report has it's flaws, which are expected, it tells us the story. We watched it unfold with our own eyes, we hear the truth from survivors and witness's. We can believe them because the evidence backs it up. I am not supposed to "play the game on both sides" because I do not need to prove this or that, you need to prove all this "inside job", "demolition/fake_____" shit because I don't need to when it doesn't exist. It's non-existence and extreme lack of evidence disproves itself yet you turn a blind eye to that and play "wack-a-mole", once answered and given a truly logical answer which you can research too, you pop up with another question, and another, and another, and another. What about this, that, this, that.
The real truth has no claims to make, the evidence was there on 9/11. The CT have claims they made which state something else took place, they need to prove it. We need physical proof. Every year it's the same shit, "there's such strong evidence for these demolitions", if so, then take it to court. Why hasn't there been a big move? No gathering of evidence, no gathering of facts, just claims which hold nothing and that's it. Holding on to claims every year yet haven't seen ONE test done to prove them right, haven't seen one artifact brought forth. Haven't seen anything, but a point, look and see?
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EuropeanAndWhite
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VIBE86;3280956 said:
slow down, your the one coming up with these theories. all I did was stating some facts that need to be investigated further to really find out what the fuck was going on.
yeah i put logic behind it: they have a programm for terrorist observation, they actually observe 4 dudes which are later hijacking planes, yet they did absolutely NOTHING? see, i dont know why they did nothing, but i wanna know. and i wanna know why the government says the attacks were a surprise when the same government did know about 4 of the hijackers. again, this needs to be investigated.
and the reporter didnt say the bulding was going to collapse. she said it DID collapse. so did the newsflash text ticker. bbc later stated that the fals news was coming from reuters and that they were just telling us what they told them.
i dont need to proof shit to you because im not speculating here. im stating facts that are not congruent with the official commission report. its completely idiotic to discuss shit like if it was demolition or not or a plane or a missile in the pentagon. we dont know. but we need to know.
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