9/11 was NOT an inside job!

[The BAPHOMET]

your buddy is attempting to simplify this in a way that's making it inaccurate.

-the US didn't train or fund Bin Laden as it wasn't necessary; he brought his own funding to the table.
-the US funded mujaheddin indirectly through the ISI, who happened to have their own agenda, which did not help the situation at all
-there's also more of a break between "the guys fighting the Russians" and "the Taliban that took over Afghanistan" than is being described there, as well as the fact that the mujaheddin were a varied group of people that did not all go Taliban
-how exactly would 9/11 function as a warning?

1st lets get this clear, he wasn't my buddy, "buddy" is a term I use when speaking of a man of middle eastern decent

2ndly he said 9/11 was used as a warning to make the US back off of taking over Afghanistan

 

[VIBE]

used is a better word than dumb i should have said that.....but all im saying is your speaking about this as if there is no room for you to be wrong and i would think you would have learned a lesson about that by now.

I am being kind of cocky but it's been a great couple weeks so I'm in a great fuckin mood. Patting myself non the back quiet a bit for everything lately.

I'm just basically saying the CT are all wrong, that is a fact.

 

[AaliyahA]

I don't feel dumb at all, I just feel used. How can I REALLY THINK for myself at a young age then grow up with it instilled in me? I had to learn how to. I was little when introduced to religion, Christianity, so of course I'm gonna be brainwashed into it. As I got older I did question and say can't be, but the stupid woodpecker struck brain was hit so hard with "you're going to hell" took over. Fear, and that's the truth. I also didn't want to disappoint my mother, eventually things change and I got to finally break free of the invisible chains of hell. I'm very much happier too.

What was the breaking point for you? When did you come face-to-face with your belief in the Bible and than come to that realization?

 

[Idi Amin Dada]

no sir. thats were most people are wrong. THEY have to prove evidence first.

wheres the evidence for their theory? if you play that game, please play it on both sides.

what are you talking about? I'm not making a claim that it's not true. I'm saying I have no reason to believe it is.

 

[lighthearted25]

What do you know about this or what does anyone else know about this?

I was told by a friend who says u can look it up but I haven't yet. She said they found papers of the hijackers even tho the planes themselves were completely incinerated.

 

[VIBE]

I was told by a friend who says u can look it up but I haven't yet. She said they found papers of the hijackers even tho the planes themselves were completely incinerated.

I just want to know who knows about what. There's no story to it but there is logic, chance and possibility.

 

[Chike]

Ok I just have one question. If anyone could please answer me this one question, I will admit that 9/11 was a sincere terrorist act from the middle east.

Why did the new cast report the tower 7 collapsed on live news while the tower was in the background still standing? And then 7 minutes later tower 7 falls. Were these psychic news reporters?

Now I doubt you'll find any more videos of this but if you havent seen this video then seriously...

 

[VIBE]

Ok I just have one question. If anyone could please answer me this one question, I will admit that 9/11 was a sincere terrorist act from the middle east.

Why did the new cast report the tower 7 collapsed on live news while the tower was in the background still standing? And then 7 minutes later tower 7 falls. Were these psychic news reporters?

Now I doubt you'll find any more videos of this but if you havent seen this video then seriously...

Question, did you read the thread or not? I answered that a couple pages back. I'm posting the video later once I find it to support my claim as well.

 

[Chike]

Question, did you read the thread or not? I answered that a couple pages back. I'm posting the video later once I find it to support my claim as well.

I admit, I just saw this thread right now and was too lazy to read every post. Can you quote your explaination and repost it for me, please? this is the only question I am interested in hearing someone answer and then I'm done.

 

[VIBE]

You've got to be kidding me. Okay, lets break it down for Einstein here who cannot read a sentence correctly.

1. It was announced by the firemen to all on the ground that the World Trade Center 7 was GOING to collapse. They had no idea when, just the fact it was showing signs of weakening and collapsing. This began at 2pm. The building fell around 5/6pm.

2. Once that was stated, you start telling everyone, "hey that building over there, it's coming down".

3. Once people start talking, the media gets wind on it. Everything leads back to the media, they'll know shit families don't know about. BBC or whoever, gets it and announces it HAS COLLAPSED, when it hasn't. It would be VERY EASY to say IT DID when it was already stated it WAS GOING TO.

It was a KNOWN FACT it was gonna collapse just not WHEN.

Got it now? If you don't exit stage left and do not come back.

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[janklow]

U barely took the W from England

no, we beat them pretty soundly with some help the first time and tied the second time. not a stellar record, true.

And Russia was the victor. Iono why America gets credit for WW2.

well, you glossed over WWI for some reason, but the reason is "because Russia did not win the war on their own." it was a team effort... hence the term Allies. hell, at least the US wasn't actively SUPPORTING Germany for two years of the damn war. but don't ask me, ask Khrushchev, who did point out after the fact that there was no reason to deny how much the US helped the USSR in the conflict (and vice versa) because it didn't diminish either side's achievement.

who also happened to win Vietnam.

now, when the US left, South Vietnam hadn't fallen. plus, the actual point was we only fought Vietnam once. i think they've actually beaten China in wars more often than anyone.

You may lack the intelligence maturity courage or integrity required to deal with the truth. Its understandable. Not every 1 has what it takes.

funny... this seems to apply more to people who need conspiracies in their lives to make the world more understandable and thus less scary.

there clearly has to be some involvement of the government at some point. the military guy said it all, NORAD "failed" on so many levels it's just ridiculous. there are just way too much coincidences.

i have to wonder if people who say things like this have ever worked with a) the government or b) any other bureaucracy

also, let me just post this a few times

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - The World Trade Center

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - The World Trade Center

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - The World Trade Center

 

[VIBE]

You know how hilarious it is to watch the guys from Loose Change get mad at Popular Mechanics? Watch the debate, Loose Change v Popular Mechanics, god damn do they cringe. Watch PM, they're like vultures picking apart this mess. It's funny to see their theories just get killed.

 

[Dr.Chemix]

See, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying you've yet to provide evidence. Everything you're saying is a cliched conjecture.

understandable. And that I cannot provide.

But I approach it the same way as if I was approached by a conman on the street

I don't know exactly how he does it

But my common sense tells me its a con up and down...

 

[Jonas.dini]

What has the government done to earn our trust?

Which brings us to the psychology and sociology of conspiracy theories. I don't particularly trust the US government, but that doesn't mean we should go embracing every ridiculous conspiracy. Why not direct that energy into the abundance of lies and conspiracies that are actually backed by evidence: the gov lies to get us into Iraq, the torture scandal(s), how about the banks that contributed to us getting into this great recession with all kinds of securities fraud.

 

[rapmastermind]

What has the government done to earn our trust?

And This shuts down this whole thread. LOL @ dudes really acting like it's impossible for the Government to do shady shit when we got tons of ish they've done. After JFK, I still laugh at people that will take the government account of events as gospel and call anyone who questions it loonies or crazy. They called all the JFK Conspiracy theories wack jobs 50 years ago and now a majority of Americans believe JFK was an inside job. It's only been 10 years, give it another 40 and it won't even be debatable. The government version has so many holes it's pathetic that anyone would be spoon fed there story and act like it's true. Now yes there have been some outlandish theories but let's not act like the Government story wasn't outlandish. Sure some guys with Box Cutters broke our entire security infrastructure? Yea ok. Building 7 just went down cause of debris from the Towers? Ok.

Like I said, to many holes. I'm not saying they did it, but they damn sure knew and or let it happen. I'm just glad I'm not alone, this ish is a movement. They tried to shut it down and it's only gotten bigger. This is JFK all over again. They will make sure every one is dead who is involved before the real info gets out. LOL @ the 9/11 Commission, the fact that Bush didn't even want that done should tell our government has something to hide. Don't ppl get it? they keep us in the dark on so many other things why do ppl really think they are being honest about 9/11? They aren't. After 2 useless wars and the bankrupting of our economy, if ppl don't see how our government used 9/11 to further an obvious agenda you are blind as Stevie wonder. 9/11 is the genesis of where we are today in this country and it was used to further a U.S. military takeover of the middle east.

 

[VIBE]

And This shuts down this whole thread. LOL @ dudes really acting like it's impossible for the Government to do shady shit when we got tons of ish they've done. After JFK, I still laugh at people that will take the government account of events as gospel and call anyone who questions it loonies or crazy. They called all the JFK Conspiracy theories wack jobs 50 years ago and now a majority of Americans believe JFK was an inside job. It's only been 10 years, give it another 40 and it won't even be debatable. The government version has so many holes it's pathetic that anyone would be spoon fed there story and act like it's true. Now yes there have been some outlandish theories but let's not act like the Government story wasn't outlandish. Sure some guys with Box Cutters broke our entire security infrastructure? Yea ok. Building 7 just went down cause of debris from the Towers? Ok.

Like I said, to many holes. I'm not saying they did it, but they damn sure knew and or let it happen. I'm just glad I'm not alone, this ish is a movement. They tried to shut it down and it's only gotten bigger. This is JFK all over again. They will make sure every one is dead who is involved before the real info gets out. LOL @ the 9/11 Commission, the fact that Bush didn't even want that done should tell our government has something to hide. Don't ppl get it? they keep us in the dark on so many other things why do ppl really think they are being honest about 9/11? They aren't. After 2 useless wars and the bankrupting of our economy, if ppl don't see how our government used 9/11 to further an obvious agenda you are blind as Stevie wonder. 9/11 is the genesis of where we are today in this country and it was used to further a U.S. military takeover of the middle east.

9/11 conspiracy will never be accepted. It has more holes than you claim the real story has. Actually the real story has 0 holes.

 

[EuropeanAndWhite]

VIBE86 do you even know the definition of a conspiracy?

osama bin laden organizing the attacks with his 19 hijackers IS a conspiracy.

the us government telling us their "theory" to this "conspiracy" in the 9/11 comission report = conspiracy theory.

david ray griffin writing books (i.e. the new pearl harbor) about the mihop-scenario = conspiracy theory.

when 2 or more individuals make a silent agreement about SOMETHING, then thats a conspiracy. the word conspiracy theory is abused for denouncing ANY approach different from what the mainstream media and government is dictating.

at the end of the day its a question of who you TRUST, nothing more. do you trust your president/government or not? do you believe obama if he says osama is dead when theres no evidence about that? you have to believe him dont you? its the same with 9/11 and its up to you to trust them or not.

so to say the official conspiracy theory has no holes is just you expressing your trust in what your government says, but has nothing to do with proven truth.

 

[KLICHE]

Remember what your professor said, think and research for yourself don't be weak minded lol come on step your game up man.

Ah, kinda makes no sense then in making the thread....

 

[VIBE]

Ah, kinda makes no sense then in making the thread....

Why do you say that?

The Conspiracy Theories, for the most part, go unchecked because the theorists "provide the evidence". So it's safe to assume, gov = liars, truthers = truth. BUT if these folks were do their own research and think for themselves, the official story makes more sense whereas the theories do not, no matter how well it's presented.

 

[VIBE]

what about kurt sonnenfeld?

What about him and his videos?