9/11 conspiracy or not?

[quiet1]

You do know the Hijackers were scattered in multiple locations right?

Which Hijacker lived in the same area btw?

Yeah I know that.

The letters were sent from the same area as the Florida & NJ cells.

Letters were sent a week after 9/11 from NJ mentioning 9/11 & death to Israel

2 days later hoax letters are sent from Fl containing the same writing that was in the two original letters. This is BEFORE any news of anthrax is made public.

& they tried to kill top Democrats against the patriot act using the most powerful anthrax on them.

Now maybe you could say the person broke in & stole the anthrax after 9/11 which would be a damn shame, or maybe he had it on deck waiting for something to give him cover to blame it on muslims but it can't just be a coincidence that the anthrax operation took place in the same area the hijackers were in.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Yeah I know that.

The letters were sent from the same area as the Florida & NJ cells.

Letters were sent a week after 9/11 from NJ mentioning 9/11 & death to Israel

2 days later hoax letters are sent from Fl containing the same writing that was in the two original letters. This is BEFORE any news of anthrax is made public.

& they tried to kill top Democrats against the patriot act using the most powerful anthrax on them.

Now maybe you could say the person broke in & stole the anthrax after 9/11 which would be a damn shame, or maybe he had it on deck waiting for something to give him cover to blame it on muslims but it can't just be a coincidence that the anthrax operation took place in the same area the hijackers were in.

The dude that use to work for the government I think Bruce Ivins was his name was the suspect in it. Once the government gathered the charges though he ran and later committed suicide.

 

[quiet1]

The dude that use to work for the government I think Bruce Ivins was his name was the suspect in it. Once the government gathered the charges though he ran and later committed suicide.

He had to actually drive between NJ & FL multiple times while also working in maryland. lucky for us he killed himself so we'll never know the truth.

 

[geechee slim]

What do you believe about 9/11?



Do you believe the government had foreknowledge of the attacks? Since when does the military NOT scramble jets to stop a flight that turned around from Ohio and heads straight for NYC. How does that go unnoticed?

Do you believe everything (numbers etc) are all symbolic and on purpose? Of course

Do you believe there were 19 hi-jackers? no

Do you believe the planes were real? (ghost planes, fake planes etc yes, seriously some believe this) Its amazing what you can pull off with the magic of television/radio. There are also remote controlled vehicles of all types.

Do you think the planes had no passengers and were remote controlled? (passengers "worked for the government") The calls coming "from" the planes sound very suspicious. Since when do you call your mom and say "It's me, your son, _n_a_m_e_." Since when do you get crisp cellular calls at that altitude on a 747?

Do you believe the planes had missiles attached to the bottom of the planes? I don't disbelieve it

Do you believe there were explosives in the Trade Centers? Yes. Look at the way the buildings cam down, the pattern in which the windows "blew" out.

Do you believe Hani Honjour flew flight 77 into the Pentagon? Who?

Do you believe Trade Center 7 was planned to be demolished? Yes.

What do you believe about Flight 93?What flight?

Now here are my questions:

Why has it been 9 years since we're heard from Bin Laden?

Why did this event trigger American involvemennt in wars in the middle east?

Why do people really think that little hole that hit the pentagon was an effect of a 757 plane?

 

[quiet1]

I don't know why people think because Loose Change is BS that thats the only theory on 9/11. Shit is just as silly as the ones who believe 100% of LC.
Looking at terrorist attacks since then & all the bullshit around 9/11 itself, I find it pretty hard to believe they did it alone.

 

[geechee slim]

After reading 4 of the last 9 pages, I've concluded this: Most of you posters are dumb. Not all, but most. These are the same people who deny illuminati in music. You can't show niggas anything, even if it's right in front of them.

"I see," said the blind man.

You've gotta look for 2 things I call the IC. Inconsistancies and Coincidences.

Inconsistancies

A plane is hijacked with primative tools and goes unnoticed for many air miles.

It goes over a no-flight zone, unnoticed.

Plows into the WTC, the twin towers, sybolized throughout history.

Never has a steel building been brought down by planes.

George Bush stayed in an Elementary school for 40 minutes after hearing about WTC.

A street officer tells everyone to get back and prep for collapse. Buildings 1 and two collapse one behind the other in a nice neet stack.

Building 7 somehow falls soon after, and was never hit by a fire.

The Pentagon has a damaged side with a small hole, yet we're to believe that a 747 hit the building without skitting in streets or hitting ANY light pole structures?

The 9/11 commision was assigned the task of investigating 9/11..... almost 2 years after it happened.

We;ve invaded Iraq, secured some oil, killed Sadam, and STILL haven't found Osama.

Coincidence

They said Y2K would mean the end of the world. Didn't Bush steal the election that year?

The date, 9-11. International code of emergency. 11, the number of confusion. Ten years earlier, George Bush Sr. would give a speech about a coming "new world order" where we can "forge" for ourselves a "new world order," and we "will be successfull." Look it up - Bush Speech 9-11-91.

Adolf Hitler rose to power after burning the Reistcraig (tower) building and blaming it on communists. Sound familiar?

Osama and the Bush family all made money (sometimes together) through oil.

All planes in the sky had to be on the ground.

Blackbox couldn't be recovered for days, but a WALLET with a passport was found to identify a suspect.

Owner of WTC takes out billion-dollar policies on his buildings in June. Was he in prep for something?

There is an underground tunnel-system complete with train cabs under the WTC sites. Their specialties are for asset recouperation. In other words, when Chris Angel puts a cloth over his body and then disappears, hhe really used a trap door under him to make his escape.

The Pentagon is a pentagram. An upside down pentagram, which was lit on fire 9/11. Do you know what an upsidedown pentagram on fire is?

Bush runs against John Kerry in 2004 and wins. Kerry is a member of Bushs' group Skull n Bones.

Bush enacts the Patriot act, witch is actually an act against your privacy.

Bush encourages the Amero, wich is Canadian-American-Mexican currency.

 

[VIBE]

After reading 4 of the last 9 pages, I've concluded this: Most of you posters are dumb. Not all, but most. These are the same people who deny illuminati in music. You can't show niggas anything, even if it's right in front of them.

"I see," said the blind man.

And you're included in this dumb poster post. Check this you fool.

A plane is hijacked with primative tools and goes unnoticed for many air miles.

At this time, these "tools" weren't suspect of anything. It didn't go "unnoticed" it went noticed but with confusion. Then they turned off their transponder.

It goes over a no-flight zone, unnoticed.

^ check above. They only had their last location when the transponder was ON. Once OFF, they couldn't track the flight anymore.

Plows into the WTC, the twin towers, sybolized throughout history.

Yeah, that was Al-Queda's goal. Wasn't the 1st time they tried anything on the Trade Centers.

Never has a steel building been brought down by planes.

A steel building never suffered the 1, 2, 3 punch of a 767 going 550+ mph + explosion of jet fuel + fire.

George Bush stayed in an Elementary school for 40 minutes after hearing about WTC.

Yeah I know. As President, I feel he should've booked it after hearing about the 1st plane, accident or terrorist it didn't matter. Why he stayed we will never know.

A street officer tells everyone to get back and prep for collapse. Buildings 1 and two collapse one behind the other in a nice neet stack.

So the street officer is in on the conspiracy too now? So what if he said this, it's a pre-caution. ANYTHING can happen. Some used logic and said yes it COULD fall so prepare some others said never in a million years, because it's been there so long and it was thought impossible. It wasn't and that was proven.

Building 7 somehow falls soon after, and was never hit by a fire.

I don't know what you watch but yes, it was on fire for like 7 hours. Not to mention partially destroyed when Towers 1 & 2 fell AND not to mention it housed a few generators and diesel fuel tanks. Also, I just found out that Towers 1 & 2 also housed a HUGE generator and a HUGE diesel fuel tank as well.

The Pentagon has a damaged side with a small hole, yet we're to believe that a 747 hit the building without skitting in streets or hitting ANY light pole structures?

It did hit light pole structures AND some generators on the lawns of the Pentagon.

The 9/11 commision was assigned the task of investigating 9/11..... almost 2 years after it happened.

What you wanted the report in a day? Give to you in a month, theorists say it's too soon and made up. Give it to you too late and it's now too late and made up. Please.

We;ve invaded Iraq, secured some oil, killed Sadam, and STILL haven't found Osama.

We aren't supposed to find Osama. The only thing the government had was knowledge of the attacks. The allowance of this was to go to war for all their personal reasons. If we kill Osama, then the ties our government has with the Bin Laden family could be hurt. They don't want that. I call BS, KILL Bin Laden. But it is what it is. This is as far as the "conspiracy" goes though.

All your other shit is reaching and ridiculous. Step your game up and DO RESEARCH before you try to say people are dumb and school them.

 

[VIBE]

I use to think all conspiracy yheorists where stupid. Yet I donderstand-

1. How did Building 3 fall

2. How a plane could Hit a bulding that high up and cause it to fall like a demolotion.

3. Why American jets from the military weren't around on 9/11 when I see one flying over me everyday..

4. Have u ever seen a building fall over from fire? Ever?

5. Why did the bottom of the tower weaken and fall like a demolotion instead of crumbling from the top? Y didn't the top of the building where the plane hit tip over and fall first?

6. There was smoke coming from the bottom before any buildings fail watch again.. How did the fire reach the bottom that quickly to a point that steel would weaken the bottom of the building causing it the twin towers to simulate demolotion?

If you read my posts this is answered. Not to mention basic research on the fire that burned for 7 hours in building 7. Which was also partially damaged on the south side of the building by tower 1 & 2.

The smoke from the bottom of the towers isn't a "bomb". There were fires down below, from falling debris etc. Watch video, shit. You guys are complete fucking idiots.

 

[geechee slim]

And you're included in this dumb poster post. Check this you fool...

... They only had their last location when the transponder was ON. Once OFF, they couldn't track the flight anymore.

...Yeah I know. As President, I feel he should've booked it after hearing about the 1st plane, accident or terrorist it didn't matter. Why he stayed we will never know.

...It did hit light pole structures AND some generators on the lawns of the Pentagon.

...What you wanted the report in a day? Give to you in a month, theorists say it's too soon and made up. Give it to you too late and it's now too late and made up. Please.

...We aren't supposed to find Osama...All your other shit is reaching and ridiculous. Step your game up and DO RESEARCH before you try to say people are dumb and school them.

The funny part is you calling me a fool. For someone with open access to the internet, and a brain, you can't put two and two together? Or are you pulling our leg to strike conversation? lol

In air traffic control, there is no way a monitor can be "switched off" and not noticed. Air ports work just like the post office. You know where everything goes before it gets there, and hardly anything goes unnoticed. Airplanes come equiped with mic's in the cabin and deck, connected to the black box. How this goes unnoticed for the time it takes a plane to take off, change direction, and fly over new york is implossible.

The pentagon is the most militant oupost in America. How a plane can come within miles of the building is a reach. Did you see that tiny hole that it left?

Here's a real plane, with people under it. See how big it is?

Now look at these inconsistant pictures.

Tell me how can two other 747 create so much force and heat to bring down three buildings, yet the Pentagon suffers only minor cuts and scratches?

I guess you've looked at the inconsistancies instead of the coincidences. You'd see this was all a plan.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

[video=youtube;rIZ205ccX8M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIZ205ccX8M[/video]

dun dun dun

 

[Mdizzle9000]

not sure what happened but the story the news fed us is bullshit

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Nice evidence. This definitely does look suspect.

If nothing else, they sure were nice to hit the section that was empty for renovations.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

I'll agree with y'all on the Pentagon, some shit with it just was not right and some of it does not add up and hasn't been debunked.

 

[major pain]

I'll agree with y'all on the Pentagon, some shit with it just was not right and some of it does not add up and hasn't been debunked.

It has tho.. lol

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Throw up some evidence that a 747 hit the pentagon.

 

[major pain]

In the 2nd pic you can see the plan come in, its very quick but its there. Watch the security videos in the link.

http://www.911myths.com/fl77-1_11094135.WMV

http://www.911myths.com/fl77-2_11094237.WMV

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html

Now, what I do believe the real conspiracy is, is the reaction time of the attack and prior knowledge of an incoming attack.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Props on the link Pain, never seen the video before, most of the stuff I checked always said every video was taken and nothing leaked.

And I agree with the Knowledge. There is already evidence we received the threat prior to 9/11 so it's likely we also knew more.

 

[elhuey]

That's a bunch nonsense from the get go -- why are you comparing grate-fruit to oranges? ground level structures don't collapse like skyscrapers do -- your whole damn premise reeks with absolute stupidity oh BTW a 747 did NOT crash into the pentagon.....do some research and find out for yourself and maybe then you'll understand the errors of your ways and how really foolish you actually are. Just in case you haven't got the courage OR where-FOR-all it was a 757

not only that, but people seem to think that the hole in the pentagon would be in the same exact size and shape of the plane that hit it, like a cartoon. btw, isnt the pentagon made out of concrete? also, pictures of the pieces of that passenger jet that hit the pentagon can be seen online. these pictures were taken during cleanup, but the conspiracy theorist say those pictures were photshopoed or those parts were planted, which is real convenient cause now they dont have to change their mind.

 

[kingblaze84]

Great posts here since I posted.....I am officially NOT a 911 conspiracy believer after seeing these posts, but I still find it VERY weird that Building 7 collapsed the same way the towers did, although no planes hit it.........

Building 7 in my opinion is the biggest reason 911 conspiracy theorists can still be taken seriously by me. I havent heard anything too convincing yet on how the building collapsed......it fell just the same way as demolitioned buildings have fallen.....

I also believe Bush and his crew of gangstas wanted 911 to happen.....anyone heard of Condileeza Rice calling her friend Willy Brown to WARN HIM that an imminent attack was about to happen? 2 fucking weeks before 911 occured? Now gosh jolly, how did she know about that???? I thought NO ONE EVER saw this shit coming! Yet Condi Rice was warning her friend to not fly in NY.........hmmmmmmmmmmm

http://www.rense.com/general50/wwse.htm

Condoleeza Rice Warned

Willie Brown Not To Fly On 911

From Karolyn Martin

3-30-4

So, Condi-Condy-Candy was the mysterious caller who warned the top dogs not to fly or be in New York City on September 11th. We always wondered WHO called them and if it were true. This leads to only one question and surely President Bush or Condi-Condy-Candy Rice would find no precedence in the US Rule Book on Behavior to refuse this answer to the American people: (Are you ready?)

WHO WARNED YOU, Condy-Condi-Candy? ? ? ? ?

 

[kingblaze84]

And why was America's air defense systems so weak on 911, yet so strong the days before??????????????????????????????????

I am convinced the Bush Administration wanted 911 to happen, so they can

A) Find an excuse to invade Afghanistan and get access to its resources and pipelines

B) Destroy effectively one of Israel's main enemies, Iraq, and steal its oil and resources while they're at it

Iran will be destroyed by American or Israeli forces next. Not sure when.....but it's only a matter of time.