9/11 conspiracy or not?

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Is this a coincidence????

[video=youtube;BAE4oU-LAGU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAE4oU-LAGU[/video]

[video=youtube;-ZLhBxIRzMY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZLhBxIRzMY[/video]

I still have this game for the Sega Genesis.

The game (Urban Strike) was released in 1994.

The storyline takes place in 2001.
 
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jazz93;1265959 said:
This is ridiculous. 9/11 was absolutely an inside job committed by us. If you don't believe so it is because you haven't done real research or you can't grasp it emotionally so you choose not to believe.

If you are unsure about ANYTHING in life (guns in the hood, mafia owned businesses, gambling, funding of insurgents, banking regulations, etc) all you have to do is track the money. You can NEVER go wrong if you track the source of the money. Wall Street is a place for insiders, ONLY insiders get ridiculously rich. Everyone else loses money or is lucky to break even over time. If you look at the stock market the Friday before 9/11 you will notice that all airline and related stocks too a huge dip. They were trending at a certain point and went down steeply that Friday as the insiders sold their stock. The companies that stood to benefit from cleanup, oil ties, etc like Halliburton and Bechtel all took a huge jump. Check the 10Qs of those companies and you can see exactly what insiders sold what, when they sold it, for how much and how much they made. The SEC requires the insiders to report all of their transactions.

The architect of the WTC bldgs said they designed it with the ability to withstand the impact of a 747. Yet these didn't. Fuel cannot burn a building made out of steel in 7 seconds. Never before or since 9/11 in the history of The US has a fire totally burned a steel building.

Yesterday there were 1280 architects circulating a petition for the 9/11 truth to be told because they know how the buildings were destroyed.

I could go on and on. If anyone seriously wants to debate intelligently without getting emotional, I welcome ALL comers.

747s didnt even exist when the buildings were being designed. and the building werent even hit by 747s, they were hit by 767s. and buildings didnt necessarily collapse because of the impact. they collapsed because of prolong fires which weakened the steel.
 
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elhuey;1266619 said:
747s didnt even exist when the buildings were being designed. and the building werent even hit by 747s, they were hit by 767s. and buildings didnt necessarily collapse because of the impact. they collapsed because of prolong fires which weakened the steel.

Dont understand Y Folk dont understand this,..........its science people.............
 
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tri3w;1266623 said:
We really still on this??? there was No conspiracy, shits been disproven

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jazz93;1266002 said:
The airline industry just put cellphone towers in the planes in 2006. Now you can make cellphone calls from the air. Anyone who has traveled on an airplane knows this to be true. You could never make cellphone calls from the air. Now you can.

Yet in 2001, a passenger calls his girl from a cellphone and tells her he loves her and that the plane has been hijacked? Then he gets off the phone and says "Let's roll?" How could he do this if cellphones didn't work that high up in the air back then? C'mon son. That phone call was never made. It was a made up story, designed to tug at our heartstrings. It worked.

You guys seriously need to do your homework and NOT think with your emotions or your personal beliefs. I used to think their was no way we had anything to do with it. I thought anyone who thought so was a kook. Then I did my own research.

Wake up people. Why was Dick Cheney in the booth that morning misleading, I mean controlling Norad? Years before 9/11 Norad had 100% accuracy on all events and threats. They have had 100% accuracy since. Yet that morning they made mistake after mistake? With Dick Cheney at the wheels? Negro please.

So none of the phone calls made from the planes worked? Bull.

Past 50,000 feet it wouldn't have worked. They flew between 40 - 20,000 ft. ONLY 2 phone calls actually got through by cell phone, the rest were by airphone, the phones BEHIND the seats on the planes.

So you're obviously in the theory that the phone calls were fakes by our government using 'voice morphing' technology? Wow. See what I mean? The theory gets deeper and deeper. EVERY minute detail is completely criticized.

How dare you take away a loved one's last phone call, to say that it was faked. You have NO PROOF of that. They agree that phone calls in 2001 could've been made from 40,000 feet. Only 2 actually came through from cell phones though.

The thermite is also HELLA funny.

They say thermite is seen pouring out of the building before it falls. Thermite is used to burn quickly, not forever and ever. So that pouring out is way too long to even be thermite. Then they say the molten metal at the bottom of the pile is thermite? Everyone agrees it NEVER got to 2000 degrees. Theorists even agree, hell they don't believe the fires got past 800 degrees. Thermite gets to at least 2500 minimum, so how the HELL can theorists say nope never got hotter while standing and on collapse in the pit than 800? But still believe there's thermite? Not to mention again, thermite burns out quick, it's not a long burning fuel.

The molten metal at the bottom is melted steel. I think 1800 degrees is the hottest it got, maybe even 2000 I can't remember. They all agree 2750 is the melting point of steel, but expose steel to 1000-2000 degrees for at least 3 months in a enclosed pit (oven) and it will eventually melt.

We can go all day, you conspiracy nuts find EVERYTHING to destroy. Like I said, I believer these stupid theories and now I don't because it's tooooooooooooo much and tooooooooo complicated to be a conspiracy.
 
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elhuey;1266619 said:
747s didnt even exist when the buildings were being designed. and the building werent even hit by 747s, they were hit by 767s. and buildings didnt necessarily collapse because of the impact. they collapsed because of prolong fires which weakened the steel.

Not to mention the planes were traveling at like what, 400-500 mph? Never considered that either. They only considered a cruising plane, not a plane high speeds.
 
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Another thing theorists get wrong; "steel melted".

Steel didn't MELT, it weakened, it softened from its original form. It's no longer a strong durable piece of hard steel, it's now a softer piece than it was. It's lost up to at least 50% of it's strength. It didn't lose 100%, that's not needed. 50% then it drops, no longer able to carry it's weight.

the melted theory is again, wrong.
 
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rusty shackleford;1266670 said:
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LOL u talking about the Conspiracies rite???? LOL........cuz thats the only internet Folklore i could think of lol
 
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VIBE86;1266717 said:
Another thing theorists get wrong; "steel melted".

Steel didn't MELT, it weakened, it softened from its original form. It's no longer a strong durable piece of hard steel, it's now a softer piece than it was. It's lost up to at least 50% of it's strength. It didn't lose 100%, that's not needed. 50% then it drops, no longer able to carry it's weight.

the melted theory is again, wrong.

Keep Shootin that ether Vibe lol
 
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tri3w;1266797 said:
Keep Shootin that ether Vibe lol

They take small parts they want to work with the theory. They never research or take into consideration the whole thing.

Hey, like I said, I can do this all day. Most of this conspiracy bullshit can be debunked by simple logic.
 
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VIBE86;1266871 said:
They take small parts they want to work with the theory. They never research or take into consideration the whole thing.

Hey, like I said, I can do this all day. Most of this conspiracy bullshit can be debunked by simple logic.

None of it makes sense if u put resreach and logic into it............
 
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VIBE86;1266717 said:
Another thing theorists get wrong; "steel melted".

Steel didn't MELT, it weakened, it softened from its original form. It's no longer a strong durable piece of hard steel, it's now a softer piece than it was. It's lost up to at least 50% of it's strength. It didn't lose 100%, that's not needed. 50% then it drops, no longer able to carry it's weight.

the melted theory is again, wrong.

Even if the steel did melt it's not like it couldn't happen. On mythbusters they put a steel beam into ignited jet fuel and it became liquid form within 15 minutes.
 
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Yes, it was a conspiracy.

Al-Qaeda operatives conspired to hijack airplanes and crash them into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon.

Case closed, let's all have a beer.
 
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shootemwon;1267269 said:
Yes, it was a conspiracy.

Al-Qaeda operatives conspired to hijack airplanes and crash them into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon.

Case closed, let's all have a beer.

simple and easy to remeber........i like
 
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vboy513;1267219 said:
Anyone care to tackle what Richard Gage said in the video I posted? Or are we just ignoring that?

Nothing he said needs to be debunk, it already has been here and by other people as well.

Some things we just won't understand, some things cannot be explained to everyone's liking. That's just the way it is.
 
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VIBE86;1265818 said:
lol

Dude, these planes were small planes. No where near the size of the one's on 9/11. No where near the speeds of 400-500 mph impacting buildings. No where as near as much fuel.

I've seen certain planes that hit buildings, video and what not. The impact zone didn't take up like 20 floors.

Just compare the 2, really. Also, if you even try to simply investigate both sides, BOTH SIDES, which means be open minded then you'll see the truth. Like I said, I was a heavy conspiracy theorist on this subject. I WASN'T open minded to hear the official story. After I decided to do so, I seen how ridiculous the theories are and seriously sickening. Nothing makes sense on the theory side, they have 2-3 "possible" theories for each thing. It's so twisted, confusing and so out there it's not possible. This is too messy first off and like I stated in my last post, all of this is too much to pull off.

Listen to Loose Change, now really? Then they go and change Loose Change which makes Loose Change 2, then again go and change to make their final version LC3. They failed over and over. No info was right and they backed out of most theories.

The more you see, read, watch and understand you'll see we just were plainly attacked.
I use to think all conspiracy yheorists where stupid. Yet I donderstand-
1. How did Building 3 fall
2. How a plane could Hit a bulding that high up and cause it to fall like a demolotion.
3. Why American jets from the military weren't around on 9/11 when I see one flying over me everyday..
4. Have u ever seen a building fall over from fire? Ever?
5. Why did the bottom of the tower weaken and fall like a demolotion instead of crumbling from the top? Y didn't the top of the building where the plane hit tip over and fall first?
6. There was smoke coming from the bottom before any buildings fail watch again.. How did the fire reach the bottom that quickly to a point that steel would weaken the bottom of the building causing it the twin towers to simulate demolotion?
 
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VIBE86;1270128 said:
Nothing he said needs to be debunk, it already has been here and by other people as well.

Some things we just won't understand, some things cannot be explained to everyone's liking. That's just the way it is.

I haven't seen it.......
 
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BlackxChild;1270610 said:
I use to think all conspiracy yheorists where stupid. Yet I donderstand-

1. How did Building 3 fall

2. How a plane could Hit a bulding that high up and cause it to fall like a demolotion.

3. Why American jets from the military weren't around on 9/11 when I see one flying over me everyday..

4. Have u ever seen a building fall over from fire? Ever?

5. Why did the bottom of the tower weaken and fall like a demolotion instead of crumbling from the top? Y didn't the top of the building where the plane hit tip over and fall first?

6. There was smoke coming from the bottom before any buildings fail watch again.. How did the fire reach the bottom that quickly to a point that steel would weaken the bottom of the building causing it the twin towers to simulate demolotion?

Powerful post.

The attacks on 9/11 are much bigger than what we saw on TV. Many world govt agencies are on record saying some of the 911 "hijackers" are still alive.

How can that be? I thought they all committed suicide on the planes............?

Many witnesses to this day say they heard explosions come from the buildings.....after the planes hit. Who planted these things? Why was the 911 report so incomplete and had so many blotted out parts....?
 
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