9/11/11.....am I wrong for not giving a fuck?

[MC The Rapper]

i don't give a fuck about 9-11 but you know what i do care about chemtrails and c camps in america you should look that up

 

[ms.jones]

*smh...I never once said you should care either...my whole point was people's reasoning for not caring could very much be used to tell them to not give a fuck about anything that people talk about everyday...as far as the "if it happened to you argument" that was also in reference to if you're upset about something, the loss of a loved one, or whatever it may be that given you say you don't care about the lives lost that day I hope you wouldn't expect anyone to extend sympathy to you if you're going through a tragic situation...

Black, your whole argument throughout the thread is people should care about the individual lives that were lost...the moment someone said they didn't you got up in arms about them not caring, and the "What if it was you" rhetoric came into play. So, you can continue to sigh, and shake your head and do whatever else is is that you are going to do, but your posts prove me right. If someone doesn't care, you can't make them care, and you really can't condemn them or their feelings.

I have lost loved one, and people that were close to me...no, I didn't expect anyone to care, because they don't have to. If someone gave me a word of encouragement, or offered condolences, great. If they didn't, oh well. I've lost people over the years, and I have yet to cry in their memory, nor do I make it a point to continuously remind people of that person. It happened, they are gone, and the world keeps spinning.

9/11 happened, and all of a sudden, the world took a turn for the worst. Not true. Prior to 9/11 the US was in dire straits, and going to shit rapidly. But....since 9/11 happened, let's blame everything on that. Whatever.

 

[musicology1985]

I never said the sentiment shouldn't go both ways...it's interesting people are very cynical towards America for how it goes about protecting it's citizens though I doubt many would support the all out elimination of the military or the use of military force

We have Border Patrol, Coast Guard, Police, Firefighters & Emergency Personnel for the safety of your average U.S. Citizens.

U.S. Military mainly just comes in for rare monumental natural disasters & riots but mainly for foreign adventures that have nothing to do with the average Citizens of the Country. They do their thing as far as security though, minus Pearl Harbor & 911...Overall, the U.S. Military's fight for freedom & security is blown way out of proportion. It ain't that deep...& too much money is allocated to it.

 

[Chef_Taylor]

Wish they wouldve celebrated the black wall steet...like they do 9/11.

 

[MeTaL]

Black, your whole argument throughout the thread is people should care about the individual lives that were lost...the moment someone said they didn't you got up in arms about them not caring, and the "What if it was you" rhetoric came into play. So, you can continue to sigh, and shake your head and do whatever else is is that you are going to do, but your posts prove me right. If someone doesn't care, you can't make them care, and you really can't condemn them or their feelings.

I have lost loved one, and people that were close to me...no, I didn't expect anyone to care, because they don't have to. If someone gave me a word of encouragement, or offered condolences, great. If they didn't, oh well. I've lost people over the years, and I have yet to cry in their memory, nor do I make it a point to continuously remind people of that person. It happened, they are gone, and the world keeps spinning.

9/11 happened, and all of a sudden, the world took a turn for the worst. Not true. Prior to 9/11 the US was in dire straits, and going to shit rapidly. But....since 9/11 happened, let's blame everything on that. Whatever.

Exactly.. If someone doesn't care.. You can't sit there and make them care. People are either going feel something about it or they don't. People have different feeling to all outlooks of things.. So they if they don't care.. They don't care.. It is what it is.

 

[musicology1985]

Cats always talking about protecting America, but we're waaayy in the clear as far as that goes. All that foreign policy with wars is just extra icing on the cake.

Saddam, Bin Laden nor Qaddafi were any real threats.

 

[Im_Linx]

I think if you actually watched the documentary 102 minutes that changed america that was showing on A&E yur whole point of view would change.

I was thinking like you until I saw the movie. 145 minutes of actual footage of what happened. watching the recordings that people were taking with their cameras as the 2nd plane hit the tower. all the screaming. people jumping to their deaths so they wont burn alive. Looking at the faces of all those people in terror. watching the towers collapse when 3 minutes ago showed firefighters entering. Worst film I have ever seen in my life. I cried the whole way through.

 

[jackthemack]

I think if you actually watched the documentary 102 minutes that changed america that was showing on A&E yur whole point of view would change.

I was thinking like you until I saw the movie. 145 minutes of actual footage of what happened. watching the recordings that people were taking with their cameras as the 2nd plane hit the tower. all the screaming. people jumping to their deaths so they wont burn alive. Looking at the faces of all those people in terror. watching the towers collapse when 3 minutes ago showed firefighters entering. Worst film I have ever seen in my life. I cried the whole way through.

I saw the shit live. It was mindblowing but I wasn't heartbroken about it.

 

[YC11]

Nah.

People die every fucking day... more people died in other days than just Sept. 11. so if then, everyday you should give a fuck and cry your heart out for people dying.

 

[jackthemack]

But they didn't get killed. So it's irrelevant.

 

[MC The Rapper]

I saw the shit live. It was mindblowing but I wasn't heartbroken about it.

yeah it was on in every class i went into that day ......

 

[1of1]

. They didn't deserve what happened to them,...., those killed were everyday people.

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Who deserves/doesn't deserve what happens to them? Unfortunate things happen EVERY DAY. How would you determine who DESERVES something or who doesn't?

 

[MC The Rapper]

But for real people have said in this thread but i'm going to say it too .

There are thousands of people dying as we speak , men , women, and children. Thats a part of life you can't shard a tear every time somebody dies you won't have any tears left. You

don't have feel something because that's what popular right now. Have ya own mind,emotions,etc.

 

[ms.jones]

Of course they matter, because they're human beings, and I've donated money to 9/11 charities. I don't give a shit about the patriotism, it would be tragic in any country. The shit is sad because they are people who had families and children and lived life just like the rest of us. They didn't deserve what happened to them, I don't care what the government did, those killed were everyday people.

One things for sure, I can say with all certainty that had one of your kids, or parents or loved ones been killed in those attacks you would be singing an entirely different tune. No offense.....

Have you helped to aid the children in Africa that doesn't have any running water? Have you helped to aid the famine that is taking place as we speak, and thousands are dying of hunger daily? What about the millions that are dying from AIDS that can't afford the basic of healthcare...have you contributed to any of those funds?

If, maybe, shoulda, woulda, coulda....if my kids or any of my immediate family were to parish, as I said to Black...that ain't the case, so I can't be concerned. If they were, I wouldn't be crying about that 10 years later. Life goes on, and the world keeps spinning. They were here, I cherish that time, and don't mourn about things I can't change.

 

[MC The Rapper]

What actually evoked the most emotion from me was the reactions of the family members who showed up at ground zero looking for loved ones, even the photos of the memorial services are heartbreaking because of the raw grief those people are feeling. If you have ever lost a loved one especially, seeing that shit gets to you. I never want to be so jaded and cynical that I shut off empathy for other people, so I'm glad it sparks emotion in me.

do innocent people in iraq and afganistan deserve to be bomb outta their homes, to become refugees, to die no but shit happens

 

[musicology1985]

I feel where peeps is coming from who don't care tho..Shit does happen to people here & the world over everyday...

Good to see people are not blind on this.

 

[ms.jones]

We're discussing 9/11 in this thread and I doubt even you can sit there and say those thousands of people deserved their fate.

No one is crying, well at least I'm not, but as a Human being I feel sympathy for those that lost their lives and the family members left behind...period. In any tragedy that happens I feel the same sympathy. No one can go out and save the World or be crippled by daily atrocities but there is nothing wrong with feeling basic human empathy for those types of situations.
Like I said before, it's not really a bad thing not to care, but you seemed to take the stance that those people had it coming because of shit the govt has done in the past and that is absurd, those people and their families didn't have anything to do with any of that. That's my view, I'm not going to keep going back and forth, you have your view and I have mine and your still my fav female poster. I just think your view on this issue is disturbing and it just....surprises me.

Not sure where you're getting that I think the ones that died deserved it. It happened, annnndddd? What else? For as long as I have been in school, America has done nothing but take the "I don't give a fuck" attitude about any and all lives they destroy in wars....as many Americans will say, 'Lives were lost for the greater good." But now, we are supposed to care, and have empathy....it goes both ways.

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Wow @ the level of apathy in this thread...oh well.

The Maafa was ten times worse..

 

[Knives Amilli]

I find if funny how niggas wanna criticize America for being foreign policy bullys..criticize America for interfering in other countries affairs .....which is coded language for saying "we should stay out of the Palestine situation".

and the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis.

Think about that for a minute.

 

[musicology1985]

I find if funny how niggas & CRACKERS & OTHER ETHNICITIES ETC....wanna criticize America for being foreign policy bullys..criticize America for interfering in other countries affairs .....which is coded language for saying "we should stay out of the Palestine situation".

and the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis.

Think about that for a minute.

Sheesh! U could at least be honest....It's not only blacks that are critical of our Military Economy which is not exactly paying dividends at home..

Brothers remind me more and more of whites every day.