40 Acres and a Mule Would Be at Least $6.4 Trillion Today—What the U.S. Really Owes Black America

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_Lefty;9072142 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072106 said:
_Lefty;9072088 said:
King Erauno;9071994 said:
^^ basically. its time to start taking matters into our own hands. and stop waiting for reparations

As it was with the Lamar Odom thread.....This will be quoted every page because, it needs to be.

how does speaking on reparations and taking the reins of our existence conflict with each other? they go hand and hand, because ANY tangible response aint gonna come from a position of charity, but power

Because it's a waste of time. That's why. If we build, we build from inside out, starting with our households, then moving education then to electing officials who genuinely have our best interests in mind and using our voting power to get em out of there if they not serious, then we can get it on the agenda because they respect our gangsta now. Hashtag movements and marches are only products of knee jerk reactions with knee jerk, microwave solutions. The world has become more sophisticated, and if there is good work to be done, it must be done standing on solid ground. They appease us with shit, and we wonder why we keep goin through the same shit, it's because our power is not what we think it is.

For instance...... Teen gets shot, hashtags, marches, jesse jackson or whoever the fuck they sendin for a week...Then....Back to normal, rinse and repeat. We hold the solution, but it's time to think different to achieve it. We keep thinkin the same, we gon stay the same. Niggas been talkin about reparations since the 1800s bruh. The same dull convo, they don't respect us in Washington because we ain't earned it, and lost what little bit we had.

i hear all of that, and at the same time i wasnt on that Internet jive

this discussion should NEVER leave the black conciousness regardless of our position...keep it in the air so our kids can have it on their mind. .imagine if malcom xs father wasnt a garveyite? at the very least, these can be seeds that grow into something larger....i dont see how reparations cannot be incorporated into the meat of what you said , we can watch roots and name our children english, french, etc surnames etc...jus straight up BASK in a pool of post slavery ooze, but the buck stops are reparations discussions? not feeling that..it aint a waste of time...it can simply be an extension of black history if we get our kids out of white institutions
 
I Self Lord & Master;9072163 said:
i hear all of that, and at the same time i wasnt on that Internet jive

this discussion should NEVER leave the black conciousness regardless of our position...keep it in the air so our kids can have it on their mind. .imagine if malcom xs father wasnt a garveyite? at the very least, these can be seeds that grow into something larger....i dont see how reparations cannot be incorporated into the meat of what you said , we can watch roots and name our children english, french, etc surnames etc...jus straight up BASK in a pool of post slavery ooze, but the buck stops are reparations discussions? not feeling that

Reparations in some ways imo would hurts us more as a people... none of the demographics that have gotten them truly NEEDED them.. imo you cant talk shyt about the government and how we are treated by them yet basically want a handout from them as well..

Imo its like most act like the plight of the black community is based off the fact we havent got what we were promised..
 
_Lefty;9072142 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072106 said:
_Lefty;9072088 said:
King Erauno;9071994 said:
^^ basically. its time to start taking matters into our own hands. and stop waiting for reparations

As it was with the Lamar Odom thread.....This will be quoted every page because, it needs to be.

how does speaking on reparations and taking the reins of our existence conflict with each other? they go hand and hand, because ANY tangible response aint gonna come from a position of charity, but power

Because it's a waste of time. That's why. If we build, we build from inside out, starting with our households, then moving education then to electing officials who genuinely have our best interests in mind and using our voting power to get em out of there if they not serious, then we can get it on the agenda because they respect our gangsta now. Hashtag movements and marches are only products of knee jerk reactions with knee jerk, microwave solutions. The world has become more sophisticated, and if there is good work to be done, it must be done standing on solid ground. They appease us with shit, and we wonder why we keep goin through the same shit, it's because our power is not what we think it is.

For instance...... Teen gets shot, hashtags, marches, jesse jackson or whoever the fuck they sendin for a week...Then....Back to normal, rinse and repeat. We hold the solution, but it's time to think different to achieve it. We keep thinkin the same, we gon stay the same. Niggas been talkin about reparations since the 1800s bruh. The same dull convo, they don't respect us in Washington because we ain't earned it, and lost what little bit we had.

Perfect example

You want us to accomplish all of those things with what resources? You want to stand together and do the progress thing when we can't even stand together to get this one thing done.

You're doing the same thing you accuse the other side of doing which is a whole bunch of talking about the several things people need to do when we wont stand together for one

People believe in what they see. That's not just a black people thing, that's a people thing so as long the community leaders wanna keep selling this progress and over times things will get better dream, it's going keep falling on deaf ears. Nothing has gotten better for us a people and they've proven they can keep getting creative with ways to shun our growth

Money/violence(no pun) is how you get what you want

That slow build process and progress dream is a farce

Niggas ain't trying to hear how it's going get better if we do this, this, and that...we hungry now
 
damobb2deep;9072175 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072163 said:
i hear all of that, and at the same time i wasnt on that Internet jive

this discussion should NEVER leave the black conciousness regardless of our position...keep it in the air so our kids can have it on their mind. .imagine if malcom xs father wasnt a garveyite? at the very least, these can be seeds that grow into something larger....i dont see how reparations cannot be incorporated into the meat of what you said , we can watch roots and name our children english, french, etc surnames etc...jus straight up BASK in a pool of post slavery ooze, but the buck stops are reparations discussions? not feeling that

Reparations in some ways imo would hurts us more as a people... none of the demographics that have gotten them truly NEEDED them.. imo you cant talk shyt about the government and how we are treated by them yet basically want a handout from them as well..

Imo its like most act like the plight of the black community is based off the fact we havent got what we were promised..

It ain't no handout homie, if anything it's lost wages. You know how much free labor we gave them and all we got out of it was freedom? We're just as, if not more responsible for the seeds that were sown to make this the most powerful country in the world. We deserve it more than anyone, without typing a whole long block, we're not in position to shoot our shot. Sometimes you gotta take a tactical retreat and come back stronger. That's the page I feel we should be on. Go hit the weights, and come back on some hulk shit and make em understand we mean what we say.
 
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I Self Lord & Master;9072179 said:
your opinion is your opinion, i don't care to engage YOU on that

but its not a handout by any means

It definitely is... you want to get paid for something you ancestors went through not you..

Its not going to change shyt...

Niggas want reparations but dont know what they would even do with the reparations if they even got it..

 
damobb2deep;9072199 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072179 said:
your opinion is your opinion, i don't care to engage YOU on that

but its not a handout by any means

It definitely is... you want to get paid for something you ancestors went through not you..

Its not going to change shyt...

Niggas want reparations but dont know what they would even do with the reparations if they even got it..

Please stop

 
R.D.;9072181 said:
_Lefty;9072142 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072106 said:
_Lefty;9072088 said:
King Erauno;9071994 said:
^^ basically. its time to start taking matters into our own hands. and stop waiting for reparations

As it was with the Lamar Odom thread.....This will be quoted every page because, it needs to be.

how does speaking on reparations and taking the reins of our existence conflict with each other? they go hand and hand, because ANY tangible response aint gonna come from a position of charity, but power

Because it's a waste of time. That's why. If we build, we build from inside out, starting with our households, then moving education then to electing officials who genuinely have our best interests in mind and using our voting power to get em out of there if they not serious, then we can get it on the agenda because they respect our gangsta now. Hashtag movements and marches are only products of knee jerk reactions with knee jerk, microwave solutions. The world has become more sophisticated, and if there is good work to be done, it must be done standing on solid ground. They appease us with shit, and we wonder why we keep goin through the same shit, it's because our power is not what we think it is.

For instance...... Teen gets shot, hashtags, marches, jesse jackson or whoever the fuck they sendin for a week...Then....Back to normal, rinse and repeat. We hold the solution, but it's time to think different to achieve it. We keep thinkin the same, we gon stay the same. Niggas been talkin about reparations since the 1800s bruh. The same dull convo, they don't respect us in Washington because we ain't earned it, and lost what little bit we had.

Perfect example

You want us to accomplish all of those things with what resources? You want to stand together and do the progress thing when we can't even stand together to get this one thing done.

You're doing the same thing you accuse the other side of doing which is a whole bunch of talking about the several things people need to do when we wont stand together for one

People believe in what they see. That's not just a black people thing, that's a people thing so as long the community leaders wanna keep selling this progress and over times things will get better dream, it's going keep falling on deaf ears. Nothing has gotten better for us a people and they've proven they can keep getting creative with ways to shun our growth

Money/violence(no pun) is how you get what you want

That slow build process and progress dream is a farce

Niggas ain't trying to hear how it's going get better if we do this, this, and that...we hungry now

It's kinda backward, but not really, you want to start a revolution with this, and I think it's the end result, either way it go, we agree that a major change in thought is what's needed, and I can fuck with that.
 
damobb2deep;9072199 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072179 said:
your opinion is your opinion, i don't care to engage YOU on that

but its not a handout by any means

It definitely is... you want to get paid for something you ancestors went through not you..

Its not going to change shyt...



Niggas want reparations but dont know what they would even do with the reparations if they even got it..

What niggas do you speak of? bruh, The niggas you know

How do you know what one will do or not do?

How will getting what is due to us hurt the black community?
 
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_Lefty;9072215 said:
R.D.;9072181 said:
_Lefty;9072142 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072106 said:
_Lefty;9072088 said:
King Erauno;9071994 said:
^^ basically. its time to start taking matters into our own hands. and stop waiting for reparations

As it was with the Lamar Odom thread.....This will be quoted every page because, it needs to be.

how does speaking on reparations and taking the reins of our existence conflict with each other? they go hand and hand, because ANY tangible response aint gonna come from a position of charity, but power

Because it's a waste of time. That's why. If we build, we build from inside out, starting with our households, then moving education then to electing officials who genuinely have our best interests in mind and using our voting power to get em out of there if they not serious, then we can get it on the agenda because they respect our gangsta now. Hashtag movements and marches are only products of knee jerk reactions with knee jerk, microwave solutions. The world has become more sophisticated, and if there is good work to be done, it must be done standing on solid ground. They appease us with shit, and we wonder why we keep goin through the same shit, it's because our power is not what we think it is.

For instance...... Teen gets shot, hashtags, marches, jesse jackson or whoever the fuck they sendin for a week...Then....Back to normal, rinse and repeat. We hold the solution, but it's time to think different to achieve it. We keep thinkin the same, we gon stay the same. Niggas been talkin about reparations since the 1800s bruh. The same dull convo, they don't respect us in Washington because we ain't earned it, and lost what little bit we had.

Perfect example

You want us to accomplish all of those things with what resources? You want to stand together and do the progress thing when we can't even stand together to get this one thing done.

You're doing the same thing you accuse the other side of doing which is a whole bunch of talking about the several things people need to do when we wont stand together for one

People believe in what they see. That's not just a black people thing, that's a people thing so as long the community leaders wanna keep selling this progress and over times things will get better dream, it's going keep falling on deaf ears. Nothing has gotten better for us a people and they've proven they can keep getting creative with ways to shun our growth

Money/violence(no pun) is how you get what you want

That slow build process and progress dream is a farce

Niggas ain't trying to hear how it's going get better if we do this, this, and that...we hungry now

It's kinda backward, but not really, you want to start a revolution with this, and I think it's the end result, either way it go, we agree that a major change in thought is what's needed, and I can fuck with that.

No doubt...thought you would I assume I was trying to throw shots

I definitely agree that everything you said needs to be done, I just don't want nothing being taken off the table...just want brothers to stand together for something
 
_Lefty;9072182 said:
damobb2deep;9072175 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072163 said:
i hear all of that, and at the same time i wasnt on that Internet jive

this discussion should NEVER leave the black conciousness regardless of our position...keep it in the air so our kids can have it on their mind. .imagine if malcom xs father wasnt a garveyite? at the very least, these can be seeds that grow into something larger....i dont see how reparations cannot be incorporated into the meat of what you said , we can watch roots and name our children english, french, etc surnames etc...jus straight up BASK in a pool of post slavery ooze, but the buck stops are reparations discussions? not feeling that

Reparations in some ways imo would hurts us more as a people... none of the demographics that have gotten them truly NEEDED them.. imo you cant talk shyt about the government and how we are treated by them yet basically want a handout from them as well..

Imo its like most act like the plight of the black community is based off the fact we havent got what we were promised..

It ain't no handout homie, if anything it's lost wages. You know how much free labor we gave them and all we got out of it was freedom? We're just as, if not more responsible for the seeds that were sown to make this the most powerful country in the world. We deserve it more than anyone, without typing a whole long block, we're not in position to shoot our shot. Sometimes you gotta take a tactical retreat and come back stronger. That's the page I feel we should be on. Go hit the weights, and come back on some hulk shit and make em understand we mean what we say.

By all means I understand what you are saying but... any successful person will tell you.. you cant be truly successful if you have a sense of entitlement.. we are not entitled to those reparations.. our ancestors were.. they did not get them.. imo we as a whole are not even ready for reparations.. it would be nothing but truth if racist whites say

"The government gave them what they wanted and they didnt do anything with it"
 
aint nothing wrong with a sense of entitlement. ..its about what you feel entitled to, and how u go about fufilling that entitlement

a person who feels entitled to getting a bullshit check every month and a person who feels entitled to their kids going to the best schools available require different courses of action, different mindframes, and will bring about different results

Harriet Tubman felt entitled to be free... and she said herself that that wasn't the case for everyone else

Take that how you want it
 
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Knock_Twice;9072216 said:
damobb2deep;9072199 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072179 said:
your opinion is your opinion, i don't care to engage YOU on that

but its not a handout by any means

It definitely is... you want to get paid for something you ancestors went through not you..

Its not going to change shyt...



Niggas want reparations but dont know what they would even do with the reparations if they even got it..

What niggas do you speak of? bruh, The niggas you know

How do you know what one will do or not do?

How will getting what is due to us hurt the black community?

Nigga getting money and land is not going to do shyt...

It is not due to us.. it was due to our ancestors.. nigga none of us have been lynched... none of us picked cotton or tobacco.. none of us was sold for 300 dollars..

And you can tell that most wont do anything with it.. if you struggling as a culture and disorganized now do you think getting that will miraculously make us all stand together?
 
damobb2deep;9072291 said:
_Lefty;9072182 said:
damobb2deep;9072175 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072163 said:
i hear all of that, and at the same time i wasnt on that Internet jive

this discussion should NEVER leave the black conciousness regardless of our position...keep it in the air so our kids can have it on their mind. .imagine if malcom xs father wasnt a garveyite? at the very least, these can be seeds that grow into something larger....i dont see how reparations cannot be incorporated into the meat of what you said , we can watch roots and name our children english, french, etc surnames etc...jus straight up BASK in a pool of post slavery ooze, but the buck stops are reparations discussions? not feeling that

Reparations in some ways imo would hurts us more as a people... none of the demographics that have gotten them truly NEEDED them.. imo you cant talk shyt about the government and how we are treated by them yet basically want a handout from them as well..

Imo its like most act like the plight of the black community is based off the fact we havent got what we were promised..

It ain't no handout homie, if anything it's lost wages. You know how much free labor we gave them and all we got out of it was freedom? We're just as, if not more responsible for the seeds that were sown to make this the most powerful country in the world. We deserve it more than anyone, without typing a whole long block, we're not in position to shoot our shot. Sometimes you gotta take a tactical retreat and come back stronger. That's the page I feel we should be on. Go hit the weights, and come back on some hulk shit and make em understand we mean what we say.

By all means I understand what you are saying but... any successful person will tell you.. you cant be truly successful if you have a sense of entitlement.. we are not entitled to those reparations.. our ancestors were.. they did not get them.. imo we as a whole are not even ready for reparations.. it would be nothing but truth if racist whites say

"The government gave them what they wanted and they didnt do anything with it"

eeeehhhhh......Generational wealth is a real thing. I'm sure they would say "hand it down" vs "if we don't get it, nobody does"
 
_Lefty;9072321 said:
damobb2deep;9072291 said:
_Lefty;9072182 said:
damobb2deep;9072175 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072163 said:
i hear all of that, and at the same time i wasnt on that Internet jive

this discussion should NEVER leave the black conciousness regardless of our position...keep it in the air so our kids can have it on their mind. .imagine if malcom xs father wasnt a garveyite? at the very least, these can be seeds that grow into something larger....i dont see how reparations cannot be incorporated into the meat of what you said , we can watch roots and name our children english, french, etc surnames etc...jus straight up BASK in a pool of post slavery ooze, but the buck stops are reparations discussions? not feeling that

Reparations in some ways imo would hurts us more as a people... none of the demographics that have gotten them truly NEEDED them.. imo you cant talk shyt about the government and how we are treated by them yet basically want a handout from them as well..

Imo its like most act like the plight of the black community is based off the fact we havent got what we were promised..

It ain't no handout homie, if anything it's lost wages. You know how much free labor we gave them and all we got out of it was freedom? We're just as, if not more responsible for the seeds that were sown to make this the most powerful country in the world. We deserve it more than anyone, without typing a whole long block, we're not in position to shoot our shot. Sometimes you gotta take a tactical retreat and come back stronger. That's the page I feel we should be on. Go hit the weights, and come back on some hulk shit and make em understand we mean what we say.

By all means I understand what you are saying but... any successful person will tell you.. you cant be truly successful if you have a sense of entitlement.. we are not entitled to those reparations.. our ancestors were.. they did not get them.. imo we as a whole are not even ready for reparations.. it would be nothing but truth if racist whites say

"The government gave them what they wanted and they didnt do anything with it"

eeeehhhhh......Generational wealth is a real thing. I'm sure they would say "hand it down" vs "if we don't get it, nobody does"

True but my point is that too many things make giving blacks reparations an bad move...

Economically...

For us as a race...

For the country as a whole...
 

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