40 Acres and a Mule Would Be at Least $6.4 Trillion Today—What the U.S. Really Owes Black America

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damobb2deep;9072355 said:
_Lefty;9072321 said:
damobb2deep;9072291 said:
_Lefty;9072182 said:
damobb2deep;9072175 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072163 said:
i hear all of that, and at the same time i wasnt on that Internet jive

this discussion should NEVER leave the black conciousness regardless of our position...keep it in the air so our kids can have it on their mind. .imagine if malcom xs father wasnt a garveyite? at the very least, these can be seeds that grow into something larger....i dont see how reparations cannot be incorporated into the meat of what you said , we can watch roots and name our children english, french, etc surnames etc...jus straight up BASK in a pool of post slavery ooze, but the buck stops are reparations discussions? not feeling that

Reparations in some ways imo would hurts us more as a people... none of the demographics that have gotten them truly NEEDED them.. imo you cant talk shyt about the government and how we are treated by them yet basically want a handout from them as well..

Imo its like most act like the plight of the black community is based off the fact we havent got what we were promised..

It ain't no handout homie, if anything it's lost wages. You know how much free labor we gave them and all we got out of it was freedom? We're just as, if not more responsible for the seeds that were sown to make this the most powerful country in the world. We deserve it more than anyone, without typing a whole long block, we're not in position to shoot our shot. Sometimes you gotta take a tactical retreat and come back stronger. That's the page I feel we should be on. Go hit the weights, and come back on some hulk shit and make em understand we mean what we say.

By all means I understand what you are saying but... any successful person will tell you.. you cant be truly successful if you have a sense of entitlement.. we are not entitled to those reparations.. our ancestors were.. they did not get them.. imo we as a whole are not even ready for reparations.. it would be nothing but truth if racist whites say

"The government gave them what they wanted and they didnt do anything with it"

eeeehhhhh......Generational wealth is a real thing. I'm sure they would say "hand it down" vs "if we don't get it, nobody does"

True but my point is that too many things make giving blacks reparations an bad move...

Economically...

For us as a race...

For the country as a whole...

Fuck this punk ass country. And the cream gon rise to the top when it come to managing money. Some people invest they tax return, some people blow it, some people owe at the end of the year. Can't expect every single person to move the same. White people fuck money up too. At least give us the opportunity to fuck it up, we weren't given a choice to work for free.
 
I Self Lord & Master;9072306 said:
aint nothing wrong with a sense of entitlement. ..its about what you feel entitled to, and how u go about fufilling that entitlement

a person who feels entitled to getting a bullshit check every month and a person who feels entitled to their kids going to the best schools available require different courses of action, different mindframes, and will bring about different results

Harriet Tubman felt entitled to be free... and she said herself that that wasn't the case for everyone else

Take that how you want it

Thats not entitlement

Those are right/responsibilities
 
damobb2deep;9072147 said:
Focal Point;9072115 said:
Japanese get reparations... Jews get reparations... Native Americans get reparations... Haiti got a good deal of their loan forgiven... Black Americans, fuck ya and let it go... It happened years ago and you're playing the victim with your race baiting...

None of those demographics are over 10 percent of the total population of America either..

BTW if we DID get reparations wtf are most going to do with it... all of our problems are not going to miraculously over because we got something from the government...

besides the fucking point u broken individual..

u sound like a battered woman.. ol "i fell down the steps" ass nigga..

i really aint got the energy to entertain this bullshit..

but u in here goin so hard for ur oppressor its fuckin sick..

 
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_Lefty;9072365 said:
damobb2deep;9072355 said:
_Lefty;9072321 said:
damobb2deep;9072291 said:
_Lefty;9072182 said:
damobb2deep;9072175 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072163 said:
i hear all of that, and at the same time i wasnt on that Internet jive

this discussion should NEVER leave the black conciousness regardless of our position...keep it in the air so our kids can have it on their mind. .imagine if malcom xs father wasnt a garveyite? at the very least, these can be seeds that grow into something larger....i dont see how reparations cannot be incorporated into the meat of what you said , we can watch roots and name our children english, french, etc surnames etc...jus straight up BASK in a pool of post slavery ooze, but the buck stops are reparations discussions? not feeling that

Reparations in some ways imo would hurts us more as a people... none of the demographics that have gotten them truly NEEDED them.. imo you cant talk shyt about the government and how we are treated by them yet basically want a handout from them as well..

Imo its like most act like the plight of the black community is based off the fact we havent got what we were promised..

It ain't no handout homie, if anything it's lost wages. You know how much free labor we gave them and all we got out of it was freedom? We're just as, if not more responsible for the seeds that were sown to make this the most powerful country in the world. We deserve it more than anyone, without typing a whole long block, we're not in position to shoot our shot. Sometimes you gotta take a tactical retreat and come back stronger. That's the page I feel we should be on. Go hit the weights, and come back on some hulk shit and make em understand we mean what we say.

By all means I understand what you are saying but... any successful person will tell you.. you cant be truly successful if you have a sense of entitlement.. we are not entitled to those reparations.. our ancestors were.. they did not get them.. imo we as a whole are not even ready for reparations.. it would be nothing but truth if racist whites say

"The government gave them what they wanted and they didnt do anything with it"

eeeehhhhh......Generational wealth is a real thing. I'm sure they would say "hand it down" vs "if we don't get it, nobody does"

True but my point is that too many things make giving blacks reparations an bad move...

Economically...

For us as a race...

For the country as a whole...

Fuck this punk ass country. And the cream gon rise to the top when it come to managing money. Some people invest they tax return, some people blow it, some people owe at the end of the year. Can't expect every single person to move the same. White people fuck money up too. At least give us the opportunity to fuck it up, we weren't given a choice to work for free.

This country folds guess what your property/money goes with it...

Btw nigga YOU aint work for free..

Also the cream gone rise to the top with or without reparations... so its not really needed..

 
BOSSExcellence;9072376 said:
damobb2deep;9072147 said:
Focal Point;9072115 said:
Japanese get reparations... Jews get reparations... Native Americans get reparations... Haiti got a good deal of their loan forgiven... Black Americans, fuck ya and let it go... It happened years ago and you're playing the victim with your race baiting...

None of those demographics are over 10 percent of the total population of America either..

BTW if we DID get reparations wtf are most going to do with it... all of our problems are not going to miraculously over because we got something from the government...

besides the fucking point u broken individual..

u sound like a battered woman.. ol "i fell down the steps" ass nigga..

i really aint got the energy to entertain this bullshit..

but u in here goin so hard for ur oppressor its fuckin sick..

Nigga fuck you and them... Im the opposite of a battered woman... you niggas bytching about some money and land that you aint work for...your ancestors did... thats some battered woman shyt..

Btw aint nobody oppressing me.. I have free will to work where I want and go where I please.. if that magical "white man" is got yall in shackles then thats on yall... im just saying im not going to bytch about something that wasnt promised to me..
 
damobb2deep;9072377 said:
_Lefty;9072365 said:
damobb2deep;9072355 said:
_Lefty;9072321 said:
damobb2deep;9072291 said:
_Lefty;9072182 said:
damobb2deep;9072175 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072163 said:
i hear all of that, and at the same time i wasnt on that Internet jive

this discussion should NEVER leave the black conciousness regardless of our position...keep it in the air so our kids can have it on their mind. .imagine if malcom xs father wasnt a garveyite? at the very least, these can be seeds that grow into something larger....i dont see how reparations cannot be incorporated into the meat of what you said , we can watch roots and name our children english, french, etc surnames etc...jus straight up BASK in a pool of post slavery ooze, but the buck stops are reparations discussions? not feeling that

Reparations in some ways imo would hurts us more as a people... none of the demographics that have gotten them truly NEEDED them.. imo you cant talk shyt about the government and how we are treated by them yet basically want a handout from them as well..

Imo its like most act like the plight of the black community is based off the fact we havent got what we were promised..

It ain't no handout homie, if anything it's lost wages. You know how much free labor we gave them and all we got out of it was freedom? We're just as, if not more responsible for the seeds that were sown to make this the most powerful country in the world. We deserve it more than anyone, without typing a whole long block, we're not in position to shoot our shot. Sometimes you gotta take a tactical retreat and come back stronger. That's the page I feel we should be on. Go hit the weights, and come back on some hulk shit and make em understand we mean what we say.

By all means I understand what you are saying but... any successful person will tell you.. you cant be truly successful if you have a sense of entitlement.. we are not entitled to those reparations.. our ancestors were.. they did not get them.. imo we as a whole are not even ready for reparations.. it would be nothing but truth if racist whites say

"The government gave them what they wanted and they didnt do anything with it"

eeeehhhhh......Generational wealth is a real thing. I'm sure they would say "hand it down" vs "if we don't get it, nobody does"

True but my point is that too many things make giving blacks reparations an bad move...

Economically...

For us as a race...

For the country as a whole...

Fuck this punk ass country. And the cream gon rise to the top when it come to managing money. Some people invest they tax return, some people blow it, some people owe at the end of the year. Can't expect every single person to move the same. White people fuck money up too. At least give us the opportunity to fuck it up, we weren't given a choice to work for free.

This country folds guess what your property/money goes with it...

Btw nigga YOU aint work for free..

Also the cream gone rise to the top with or without reparations... so its not really needed..

My nigga, that's like sayin we don't deserve our rights because we're not the ones that fought for em. It's called building on what was already built, that's how..... You know what? I'ma leave you to it though. We not in the same mental bracket.
 
_Lefty;9072469 said:
damobb2deep;9072377 said:
_Lefty;9072365 said:
damobb2deep;9072355 said:
_Lefty;9072321 said:
damobb2deep;9072291 said:
_Lefty;9072182 said:
damobb2deep;9072175 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9072163 said:
i hear all of that, and at the same time i wasnt on that Internet jive

this discussion should NEVER leave the black conciousness regardless of our position...keep it in the air so our kids can have it on their mind. .imagine if malcom xs father wasnt a garveyite? at the very least, these can be seeds that grow into something larger....i dont see how reparations cannot be incorporated into the meat of what you said , we can watch roots and name our children english, french, etc surnames etc...jus straight up BASK in a pool of post slavery ooze, but the buck stops are reparations discussions? not feeling that

Reparations in some ways imo would hurts us more as a people... none of the demographics that have gotten them truly NEEDED them.. imo you cant talk shyt about the government and how we are treated by them yet basically want a handout from them as well..

Imo its like most act like the plight of the black community is based off the fact we havent got what we were promised..

It ain't no handout homie, if anything it's lost wages. You know how much free labor we gave them and all we got out of it was freedom? We're just as, if not more responsible for the seeds that were sown to make this the most powerful country in the world. We deserve it more than anyone, without typing a whole long block, we're not in position to shoot our shot. Sometimes you gotta take a tactical retreat and come back stronger. That's the page I feel we should be on. Go hit the weights, and come back on some hulk shit and make em understand we mean what we say.

By all means I understand what you are saying but... any successful person will tell you.. you cant be truly successful if you have a sense of entitlement.. we are not entitled to those reparations.. our ancestors were.. they did not get them.. imo we as a whole are not even ready for reparations.. it would be nothing but truth if racist whites say

"The government gave them what they wanted and they didnt do anything with it"

eeeehhhhh......Generational wealth is a real thing. I'm sure they would say "hand it down" vs "if we don't get it, nobody does"

True but my point is that too many things make giving blacks reparations an bad move...

Economically...

For us as a race...

For the country as a whole...

Fuck this punk ass country. And the cream gon rise to the top when it come to managing money. Some people invest they tax return, some people blow it, some people owe at the end of the year. Can't expect every single person to move the same. White people fuck money up too. At least give us the opportunity to fuck it up, we weren't given a choice to work for free.

This country folds guess what your property/money goes with it...

Btw nigga YOU aint work for free..

Also the cream gone rise to the top with or without reparations... so its not really needed..

My nigga, that's like sayin we don't deserve our rights because we're not the ones that fought for em. It's called building on what was already built, that's how..... You know what? I'ma leave you to it though. We not in the same mental bracket.

We may not be in the same mental bracket to you but the difference is I understand what you are saying and in a perfect would it would be nice... but realistically its not going to happen on any major scale to where niggas would be satisfied..

Our ancestors worked their ass off... and they definitely deserved what was promised to them..

But on our side you are not being realistic.. also what is money and land if it is not worth anything? Because if they gave us that... thats is exactly what would happen..

Btw RIGHTS and reparations are two different things... we are entitled to our rights... we are not entitled to land and money..
 
I see no realistic pathway for achieving reparations for Black people in America. Nowhere close to enough unity, political clout, or ironically enough economic power. IMO the whole issue is a waste of time.

We're owed it of course but you're better off just clicking up with some like-minded people, pooling your resources/talents/ideas and trying to win through capitalism and then pay it forward...govt ain't cutting no checks like that and Black people in this country won't be in any position to make the govt feel inclined to do so in the foreseeable future.
 
The info graphic makes a SOLID case for reparations by showing a CLEAR link from free slave labor to countless! institutional injustices that destroyed any sort of momentum to help us gain wealth up until 1990.

Even if you come from means... in some way shape or form your family has been affected because these were practices that targeted "Blacks" with or without money.

So we're entitled to some sort of settlement even if you manage through the generations to recover and not fall through the cracks. It just means that you could be much further.

 
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We're not ready for reperations. We need an independent state first and foremost. Why would you want to have reperations now when you're going to give the money right back to white people
 
Reparations is removed from all of this other shit y'all bringing up. We just want what MONEY we're owed. Ain't no one in here saying it will fix our problems as a collective. Just give us our money!

For the niggas that's serious about it, either go to law school and see if you can help figure this shit out, or be ready to donate to help the niggas that do have the discipline and courage to follow this through. For the niggas with the money, it would great if y'all help fund their research and case.

For the other niggas, stop hating.
 
damobb2deep;9072074 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9071991 said:
damobb2deep;9071962 said:
We not getting the shyt let it go! Lol..

we let EVERYTHING go though...where does a line get drawn and a standard of any sort get set

The line should have STARTED with letting reparations go.. its been 150 years bruh.. and this country is not going to fold trying to keep a dream that was sold to people (all of which are dead now).. now anything that effects us now... yes fight for that.. but shyt like that should be let go...

so by your logic since America was taken from Indians 400 years ago they should lose all benefits and reservations :|
 
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En-Fuego22;9072640 said:
We're not ready for reperations. We need an independent state first and foremost. Why would you want to have reperations now when you're going to give the money right back to white people

If people ain't ready now, they never will be

Some people going blow it, some people going glo the fuck up...just the way it is

But as a collective, it's nothing but positive

Now people can pool their resources together...now people can make it so our votes actually hold power

All this "niggas ain't ready, niggas need this and that" is bullshit

You scared of the light, you wanna keep talking...we ain't getting a fucking independent state in America...why would you want 1

Black people can and willing to start their own businesses, they rarely do due to lack of means

Hello means

Smh I'm still dumbfounded this nigga said "that's our ancestors money" I love y'all man
 
Nigga really called reparations a "handout" and argued against it on the basis that chattel slavery never occurred to me personally. Smhhhhh
 
Ol Jay's;9072785 said:
damobb2deep;9072074 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9071991 said:
damobb2deep;9071962 said:
We not getting the shyt let it go! Lol..

we let EVERYTHING go though...where does a line get drawn and a standard of any sort get set

The line should have STARTED with letting reparations go.. its been 150 years bruh.. and this country is not going to fold trying to keep a dream that was sold to people (all of which are dead now).. now anything that effects us now... yes fight for that.. but shyt like that should be let go...

so by your logic since America was taken from Indians 400 years ago they should lose all benefits and reservations :|

No nigga thats not the same logic.. natives living on reservations is not going to put the country in trillions of dollars in debt... honestly if they give you money thats not worth anything whats the use of getting it? If you get land thats not worth anything whats the use of it... that is my point..

 
damobb2deep;9072147 said:
Focal Point;9072115 said:
Japanese get reparations... Jews get reparations... Native Americans get reparations... Haiti got a good deal of their loan forgiven... Black Americans, fuck ya and let it go... It happened years ago and you're playing the victim with your race baiting...

None of those demographics are over 10 percent of the total population of America either..

BTW if we DID get reparations wtf are most going to do with it... all of our problems are not going to miraculously over because we got something from the government...

not your or my concern what someone else does with their money. But I promise you shit would change. Let a group of like minded individuals amass that kind of money. No telling g what they could do to this world.
 
R.D.;9072903 said:
En-Fuego22;9072640 said:
We're not ready for reperations. We need an independent state first and foremost. Why would you want to have reperations now when you're going to give the money right back to white people

If people ain't ready now, they never will be

Some people going blow it, some people going glo the fuck up...just the way it is

But as a collective, it's nothing but positive

Now people can pool their resources together...now people can make it so our votes actually hold power

All this "niggas ain't ready, niggas need this and that" is bullshit

You scared of the light, you wanna keep talking...we ain't getting a fucking independent state in America...why would you want 1

Black people can and willing to start their own businesses, they rarely do due to lack of means

Hello means

Smh I'm still dumbfounded this nigga said "that's our ancestors money" I love y'all man

First and foremost you talking to the wrong nigga talking about a nigga is scared. No nigga I'm not. Secondly, what makes you think I would even advocate such a horrible idea of having a independent state in America. Why would you want to get money that would go right back to whites. You better off not receiving it. Are fake jews in Germany or in canaan??? It's plenty of land in Africa the AA can have why not push for something that would benefit you in the long run. It's very short sighted to take money now and not be able to built upon it
 
En-Fuego22;9073136 said:
R.D.;9072903 said:
En-Fuego22;9072640 said:
We're not ready for reperations. We need an independent state first and foremost. Why would you want to have reperations now when you're going to give the money right back to white people

If people ain't ready now, they never will be

Some people going blow it, some people going glo the fuck up...just the way it is

But as a collective, it's nothing but positive

Now people can pool their resources together...now people can make it so our votes actually hold power

All this "niggas ain't ready, niggas need this and that" is bullshit

You scared of the light, you wanna keep talking...we ain't getting a fucking independent state in America...why would you want 1

Black people can and willing to start their own businesses, they rarely do due to lack of means

Hello means

Smh I'm still dumbfounded this nigga said "that's our ancestors money" I love y'all man

First and foremost you talking to the wrong nigga talking about a nigga is scared. No nigga I'm not. Secondly, what makes you think I would even advocate such a horrible idea of having a independent state in America. Why would you want to get money that would go right back to whites. You better off not receiving it. Are fake jews in Germany or in canaan??? It's plenty of land in Africa the AA can have why not push for something that would benefit you in the long run. It's very short sighted to take money now and not be able to built upon it

Bruh stop generalizing was the point I was making

You don't know what Im going do with my money or anybody else

Money is something you build on, that's all it is...you keep saying it would go back to whites as if that's fact

Like we ain't capable of starting our own shit or saving or whatever else we decide to do with it

Some people going use it as a springboard or invest it or whatever and some going blow it...no amount of time is going to change that
 

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