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Common, Killah Priest, Nas
Breezy_Kilroy
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White folks claiming anti semitism
How did they get that out of what was said?
How did they get that out of what was said?
power_wisdom
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KnowReasonForPeace;c-9864382 said:Busta Carmichael ;c-9864374 said:https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFnVsGAwvG/Cain;c-9864351 said:Busta Carmichael ;c-9864343 said:Dehaven is all on IG riding Hov nh...
Weird.
Link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFkb4PgsGR/
IC won't link captions but u can see them for yourselves.
Bunch of other photos too
But why give props to a snake nigga? Niggas hurt cause they not in emory or tyty spot.
Time heals all wounds. I think he just showing support.
My album review.......
It’s amazing how the world can still be taken by surprise, even in 2017. One month ago, while the hip-hop community was still basking in Kendrick Lamar’s ascension to the throne with DAMN, we had no idea what Sean Carter - aka Jay-Z - was up to in his somewhat-second-retirement phase. As least that’s what it looked like. Then, out of nowhere, we got messages popping up: 4:44 was coming. It took hip-hop about two weeks to even figure out that Jay-Z was dropping something that would once again be exclusive to Tidal, his music streaming service. Based off what we’ve heard from his last album, Magna Carta Holy Grail, most of expected Hov to give us something nice to nod to, bounce to, brag to, and pounce all over the new wave of trap rappers with. What we got was a beautiful flip of the script.
The 13th offering to hip-hop by one of its most acclaimed emcees and artists, 4:44, Jay-Z brings us a look into his life like never-before-seen or heard of. We’ve normally been used to Jay Hova as the ultimate businessman in hip-hop: from kingpin on the block, to rising to hip-hop‘s crown after the passing of his friend and mentor The Notorious B.I.G., to creating successful ventures such as Roc-A-Wear, Roc Nation, and the aforementioned Tidal, even his marriage to pop ultra star Beyonce and the creation of their new family, Jay-Z has been the poster child for “making it” in this life with what he was given early on. For the most part, he was never afraid to let us know that either; championing fashions, trends, and how we moved and applied cultures to our own lives. 4:44 takes all those success and balances them against everything we thought we knew (or had speculations about), and for the very first time, Sean the man take the stage and leaves Jay the rapper behind on the mic.....and the world has given it an astounding reception. As this is led by No I.D. producing acumen, this album gives us a real “Soul on Wax” tour.
So, what on this album that’s so special?: Honestly, what isn’t? We’ve been waiting for this version of S. Carter since he came out of “retirement” to give us personal growth and reflection, not just financial and cultural dominance. Jay begins this immediately on “Kill Jay Z”, as he talks about finally shedding the darkness he’s seen, and coming out publicly with his own demons; with his friends (with a few bars at his “lil’ brother” Kanye for good measure) and his own infidelity (LOL @ shots at Eric Benet, ”Nigga, NEVER go Eric Benet”). “The Story of O.J.” gives us a further driving point from Jay’s eyes that no matter how successful you are, if you are black, you’re “still nigga” around America, and takes an aim at wondering why the black community is so far behind, economic empowerment-wise, and why the Jewish community has attained true power and independence in this country.
(Side note: if you live in New York City, you should already know this. We see it everyday. Why the media decided to get their panties in a bunch over Jay saying this only further explains his point.)
On “Smile”, Jay takes the hate he knows that is covered up by smiles, and exclaims that despite it all, why he’s displayed on Mt. Rapmore when it comes to this game, and as to why people see what they only wish to see. This track is also noted for Jay allowing his mother, Gloria Carter, to showcase her own coming out as a lesbian, which is beautiful in its own right in the face of hip-hop's very anti-gay stance. As the soul tour continues with “Caught In Their Eyes”, Frank Ocean makes a gracious appearance. The album’s deepest track, “4:44”, goes much deeper into Jay’s previous mentioned affairs to his wife Beyonce, and how as a nearly 50-year-old man, he’s finally realized just how much he’s hurt her, as well as how the lives they’ve created will see him once they learn this story eventually, summing it up with, “You did what with WHO?/what good is a ménage à trois when you have a soul mate/You risked that for Blue?”
By the time we get to “Family Feud”, he’s able to understand that when they all combine talents and resources in the Carter-Knowles household, it really is no ceiling to what that family can achieve, also re-affirming that he’s with his family, telling the home wreckers out there, “leave me alone, Becky.” Using the “Bam Bam” sample from Sister Nancy, Damian Marley drops by on “Bam” for a nice reggae/hip-hop crossover track guaranteed to get a club amped up this summer, while still letting Jay be the young Jay that we got to know and revere. (“I be skippin leg day, I still run the world/I press the head of ya team with one finger curl”) The album wraps up with three tracks, “Moonlight”, “Marcy Me” which is a wonderful pass through memory lane, and “Legacy” on how the spoils of his work will be seen throughout the generations with this game almost assured to reincarnate itself in his kids. There’s way too much to cover in the 10 tracks listed, but Jay has really laid it out there for the listener to get a better understanding of what has driven him in ways most of us never thought.
Could there have been more done here?: The problem with a concept album is sometimes that it can get so personal, that it encapsulates the whole project, and there’s no room for a time out. I honestly felt that 10 tracks was a bit light, and that something could’ve been done for the clubs, a la one of the many chart-topping hits we’ve grooved to from Marcy’s own. (Maybe someone along the lines of “Grown Man B-I” or something.) This is the first Jay-Z album where there’s not a real dance track here, and it just feels so…..incomplete. Other than that, there’s no real downsides, here.
My scores:
Lyricism: 9.25/10
Production: 9/10
Album Cohesiveness: 9.5/10
Replay Value: 9/10
Overall: 9.25/10
Final Thoughts: 4:44 is a great coming-full-circle vision on how one S. Carter has turned his gifts to what he’s said for years; as a gift and a curse. Yes, it’s brought him status, power, fame, and fortune, but it’s also brought him trials, tribulations, and pain. By broadcasting all of this in 30 minutes or so, he’s able to hopefully give the next generation a road map to success and how to avoid the pitfalls of his own setbacks....all for $9.99.
Do I feel that this album will get him hip-hop’s crown back from K. Dot? No. And it shouldn’t, because it simply no longer matters. That’s the point here: he’s worn that crown, repped that title, and many rappers have kissed that ring. He’s lane to glory has been paved. 4:44 is about what happens after your prime is past and your present hold a new chapter. As this album is very similar to Nas’s Life Is Good, both are able to bask on past triumphs, reflect on present relationship troubles, and give their own view on parenting challenges. Jay’s reflection comes with much more glamour and style, because, well…..he’s Jay. But him even peeling the onion of his this far back puts 4:44 at least in the Album of the Year conversation. If this is Jay’s final offering to the world of hip-hop, I’m just glad he’s saved the autobiography for last, because this is his truest work since one could say all the way back to the beginning, when Reasonable Doubt gave us a young emcee from Marcy projects and the promise of greatness he showed back then. The only question to ask now is will the "C" word - classic - get thrown around, when it's said and done? One can only hope.
For now, I'll just throw 4:44 in with Jeter's last at-bat, and Kobe's last game. One more taste of Black Excellence wasn't needed, but he gave it up anyway. Good shit, Jay.
Favorite Tracks: The Story of O.J., 4:44, Marcy Me
It’s amazing how the world can still be taken by surprise, even in 2017. One month ago, while the hip-hop community was still basking in Kendrick Lamar’s ascension to the throne with DAMN, we had no idea what Sean Carter - aka Jay-Z - was up to in his somewhat-second-retirement phase. As least that’s what it looked like. Then, out of nowhere, we got messages popping up: 4:44 was coming. It took hip-hop about two weeks to even figure out that Jay-Z was dropping something that would once again be exclusive to Tidal, his music streaming service. Based off what we’ve heard from his last album, Magna Carta Holy Grail, most of expected Hov to give us something nice to nod to, bounce to, brag to, and pounce all over the new wave of trap rappers with. What we got was a beautiful flip of the script.
The 13th offering to hip-hop by one of its most acclaimed emcees and artists, 4:44, Jay-Z brings us a look into his life like never-before-seen or heard of. We’ve normally been used to Jay Hova as the ultimate businessman in hip-hop: from kingpin on the block, to rising to hip-hop‘s crown after the passing of his friend and mentor The Notorious B.I.G., to creating successful ventures such as Roc-A-Wear, Roc Nation, and the aforementioned Tidal, even his marriage to pop ultra star Beyonce and the creation of their new family, Jay-Z has been the poster child for “making it” in this life with what he was given early on. For the most part, he was never afraid to let us know that either; championing fashions, trends, and how we moved and applied cultures to our own lives. 4:44 takes all those success and balances them against everything we thought we knew (or had speculations about), and for the very first time, Sean the man take the stage and leaves Jay the rapper behind on the mic.....and the world has given it an astounding reception. As this is led by No I.D. producing acumen, this album gives us a real “Soul on Wax” tour.
So, what on this album that’s so special?: Honestly, what isn’t? We’ve been waiting for this version of S. Carter since he came out of “retirement” to give us personal growth and reflection, not just financial and cultural dominance. Jay begins this immediately on “Kill Jay Z”, as he talks about finally shedding the darkness he’s seen, and coming out publicly with his own demons; with his friends (with a few bars at his “lil’ brother” Kanye for good measure) and his own infidelity (LOL @ shots at Eric Benet, ”Nigga, NEVER go Eric Benet”). “The Story of O.J.” gives us a further driving point from Jay’s eyes that no matter how successful you are, if you are black, you’re “still nigga” around America, and takes an aim at wondering why the black community is so far behind, economic empowerment-wise, and why the Jewish community has attained true power and independence in this country.
(Side note: if you live in New York City, you should already know this. We see it everyday. Why the media decided to get their panties in a bunch over Jay saying this only further explains his point.)
On “Smile”, Jay takes the hate he knows that is covered up by smiles, and exclaims that despite it all, why he’s displayed on Mt. Rapmore when it comes to this game, and as to why people see what they only wish to see. This track is also noted for Jay allowing his mother, Gloria Carter, to showcase her own coming out as a lesbian, which is beautiful in its own right in the face of hip-hop's very anti-gay stance. As the soul tour continues with “Caught In Their Eyes”, Frank Ocean makes a gracious appearance. The album’s deepest track, “4:44”, goes much deeper into Jay’s previous mentioned affairs to his wife Beyonce, and how as a nearly 50-year-old man, he’s finally realized just how much he’s hurt her, as well as how the lives they’ve created will see him once they learn this story eventually, summing it up with, “You did what with WHO?/what good is a ménage à trois when you have a soul mate/You risked that for Blue?”
By the time we get to “Family Feud”, he’s able to understand that when they all combine talents and resources in the Carter-Knowles household, it really is no ceiling to what that family can achieve, also re-affirming that he’s with his family, telling the home wreckers out there, “leave me alone, Becky.” Using the “Bam Bam” sample from Sister Nancy, Damian Marley drops by on “Bam” for a nice reggae/hip-hop crossover track guaranteed to get a club amped up this summer, while still letting Jay be the young Jay that we got to know and revere. (“I be skippin leg day, I still run the world/I press the head of ya team with one finger curl”) The album wraps up with three tracks, “Moonlight”, “Marcy Me” which is a wonderful pass through memory lane, and “Legacy” on how the spoils of his work will be seen throughout the generations with this game almost assured to reincarnate itself in his kids. There’s way too much to cover in the 10 tracks listed, but Jay has really laid it out there for the listener to get a better understanding of what has driven him in ways most of us never thought.
Could there have been more done here?: The problem with a concept album is sometimes that it can get so personal, that it encapsulates the whole project, and there’s no room for a time out. I honestly felt that 10 tracks was a bit light, and that something could’ve been done for the clubs, a la one of the many chart-topping hits we’ve grooved to from Marcy’s own. (Maybe someone along the lines of “Grown Man B-I” or something.) This is the first Jay-Z album where there’s not a real dance track here, and it just feels so…..incomplete. Other than that, there’s no real downsides, here.
My scores:
Lyricism: 9.25/10
Production: 9/10
Album Cohesiveness: 9.5/10
Replay Value: 9/10
Overall: 9.25/10
Final Thoughts: 4:44 is a great coming-full-circle vision on how one S. Carter has turned his gifts to what he’s said for years; as a gift and a curse. Yes, it’s brought him status, power, fame, and fortune, but it’s also brought him trials, tribulations, and pain. By broadcasting all of this in 30 minutes or so, he’s able to hopefully give the next generation a road map to success and how to avoid the pitfalls of his own setbacks....all for $9.99.
Do I feel that this album will get him hip-hop’s crown back from K. Dot? No. And it shouldn’t, because it simply no longer matters. That’s the point here: he’s worn that crown, repped that title, and many rappers have kissed that ring. He’s lane to glory has been paved. 4:44 is about what happens after your prime is past and your present hold a new chapter. As this album is very similar to Nas’s Life Is Good, both are able to bask on past triumphs, reflect on present relationship troubles, and give their own view on parenting challenges. Jay’s reflection comes with much more glamour and style, because, well…..he’s Jay. But him even peeling the onion of his this far back puts 4:44 at least in the Album of the Year conversation. If this is Jay’s final offering to the world of hip-hop, I’m just glad he’s saved the autobiography for last, because this is his truest work since one could say all the way back to the beginning, when Reasonable Doubt gave us a young emcee from Marcy projects and the promise of greatness he showed back then. The only question to ask now is will the "C" word - classic - get thrown around, when it's said and done? One can only hope.
For now, I'll just throw 4:44 in with Jeter's last at-bat, and Kobe's last game. One more taste of Black Excellence wasn't needed, but he gave it up anyway. Good shit, Jay.
Favorite Tracks: The Story of O.J., 4:44, Marcy Me
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Busta Carmichael ;c-9864374 said:https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFnVsGAwvG/Cain;c-9864351 said:Busta Carmichael ;c-9864343 said:Dehaven is all on IG riding Hov nh...
Weird.
Link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFkb4PgsGR/
IC won't link captions but u can see them for yourselves.
Bunch of other photos too
Plan A didn't work for him so he's on Plan B right now.
I been a Jayz fan since reasonable doubt,I have been on his side through the beans, dame and currently Kanye beef, he provided opportunities for those guys to be rich forever.
One thing I will never support him for is his treatment of Jaz o and dehaven.
I don't care what they did to him, he doesn't have to hang with them, he can just set them up financially especially jaz o.
It sad to see where he's at financially and where Jaz o is at. "I came in the game on Jaz back"
This is not about who wronged who,it's about making sure Jaz o is good.he deserves it.
KnowReasonForPeace
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power_wisdom;c-9864445 said:KnowReasonForPeace;c-9864382 said:Busta Carmichael ;c-9864374 said:https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFnVsGAwvG/Cain;c-9864351 said:Busta Carmichael ;c-9864343 said:Dehaven is all on IG riding Hov nh...
Weird.
Link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFkb4PgsGR/
IC won't link captions but u can see them for yourselves.
Bunch of other photos too
But why give props to a snake nigga? Niggas hurt cause they not in emory or tyty spot.
Time heals all wounds. I think he just showing support.
True. Hopefully thats the case
KnowReasonForPeace
New member
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9864439 said:White folks claiming anti semitism
How did they get that out of what was said?
Might be that line about jewish people owning everything om tje story of oj. Its a reach
Shizlansky
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Mr 202;c-9864463 said:Busta Carmichael ;c-9864374 said:https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFnVsGAwvG/Cain;c-9864351 said:Busta Carmichael ;c-9864343 said:Dehaven is all on IG riding Hov nh...
Weird.
Link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFkb4PgsGR/
IC won't link captions but u can see them for yourselves.
Bunch of other photos too
Plan A didn't work for him so he's on Plan B right now.
I been a Jayz fan since reasonable doubt,I have been on his side through the beans, dame and currently Kanye beef, he provided opportunities for those guys to be rich forever.
One thing I will never support him for is his treatment of Jaz o and dehaven.
I don't care what they did to him, he doesn't have to hang with them, he can just set them up financially especially jaz o.
It sad to see where he's at financially and where Jaz o is at. "I came in the game on Jaz back"
This is not about who wronged who,it's about making sure Jaz o is good.he deserves it.
But Jaz-O didn't sign the contract
Elzo69Renaissance
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Y all know Dann well Jews can be sensitive as fuck
Built 4 cuban linx
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I see some people saying this is going to be jayz last album, has that been confirmed?
soul rattler
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270crownst;c-9863817 said:https://www.instagram.com/p/BWF6owwhRZq/
Boosie Miss the message behind it lol
“The Story of O.J.,” which was accompanied by a black and white short film, gives a history lesson on the legacy of slavery, while also providing wisdom on achieving the American Dream. One of his most memorable lines, suggests in order to achieve financial growth and stability, people need to stop taking pictures holding money up to their ear. “Y’all out here still takin’ advances, huh? / Me and my niggas takin’ real chances, uh / Y’all on the ‘Gram holdin’ money to your ear / There’s a disconnect, we don’t call that money over here,” he raps. But Boosie wasn’t ready to give up on his stacked lifestyle.
During an Instagram Live video feed on Sunday (June 2), Boosie took some time to present the opposing argument to Hov’s recent song. “I got love for JAY-Z, but ya’ll telling me I shouldn’t put stacks in my ear if JAY-Z says it. These Louisiana n***as don’t rock like that,” Boosie said as fan comments continued to pop up on the Insta-live screen. In his hand, the rapper was holding a large stack of dollar bills. “If JAY-Z tell you jump off the Eiffel Tower, you going to jump,” he continued. “JAY-Z don’t run the South! I’m still holding money to my ear.”
Some niggas really hate to be helped. SMH @ holding paper money to your ear being a culture
Busta Carmichael ;c-9864374 said:https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFnVsGAwvG/Cain;c-9864351 said:Busta Carmichael ;c-9864343 said:Dehaven is all on IG riding Hov nh...
Weird.
Link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFkb4PgsGR/
IC won't link captions but u can see them for yourselves.
Bunch of other photos too
This nigga made his account 24 hours ago and got 13 posts already lol... ridin that wave
Shizlansky;c-9864475 said:Mr 202;c-9864463 said:Busta Carmichael ;c-9864374 said:https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFnVsGAwvG/Cain;c-9864351 said:Busta Carmichael ;c-9864343 said:Dehaven is all on IG riding Hov nh...
Weird.
Link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFkb4PgsGR/
IC won't link captions but u can see them for yourselves.
Bunch of other photos too
Plan A didn't work for him so he's on Plan B right now.
I been a Jayz fan since reasonable doubt,I have been on his side through the beans, dame and currently Kanye beef, he provided opportunities for those guys to be rich forever.
One thing I will never support him for is his treatment of Jaz o and dehaven.
I don't care what they did to him, he doesn't have to hang with them, he can just set them up financially especially jaz o.
It sad to see where he's at financially and where Jaz o is at. "I came in the game on Jaz back"
This is not about who wronged who,it's about making sure Jaz o is good.he deserves it.
But Jaz-O didn't sign the contract
I get that but how long are we going to count that against him?
I just wish That someday he will find it in his heart to help put the originator back on.
power_wisdom
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Shizlansky;c-9864475 said:Mr 202;c-9864463 said:Busta Carmichael ;c-9864374 said:https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFnVsGAwvG/Cain;c-9864351 said:Busta Carmichael ;c-9864343 said:Dehaven is all on IG riding Hov nh...
Weird.
Link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFkb4PgsGR/
IC won't link captions but u can see them for yourselves.
Bunch of other photos too
Plan A didn't work for him so he's on Plan B right now.
I been a Jayz fan since reasonable doubt,I have been on his side through the beans, dame and currently Kanye beef, he provided opportunities for those guys to be rich forever.
One thing I will never support him for is his treatment of Jaz o and dehaven.
I don't care what they did to him, he doesn't have to hang with them, he can just set them up financially especially jaz o.
It sad to see where he's at financially and where Jaz o is at. "I came in the game on Jaz back"
This is not about who wronged who,it's about making sure Jaz o is good.he deserves it.
But Jaz-O didn't sign the contract
Jaz-O put Jay-z on songs and made videos of them when he had a deal. And he wasn't even popping like that. Thats like given your man $20 when you only had 50 to last all month. If it wasn't for Jaz who Jay took his name from, showing him he could get legit money, I doubt he be in the situation he is in now. He gave Jay his first look. And a big look. What ever happened between them, it would be no Jay-Z without Jaz-O. That man should financially stable.
Breezy_Kilroy
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KnowReasonForPeace;c-9864473 said:Breezy_Kilroy;c-9864439 said:White folks claiming anti semitism
How did they get that out of what was said?
Might be that line about jewish people owning everything om tje story of oj. Its a reach
Of course but it's not anti Semetic at all
The song plays on stereotypes to drive a point.
They didn't play it to understand just to hear.
I remember the same white folks were calling TPAB "racist". Like how in the hell did they even come to that conclusion?
Listencloser
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What if Jay Z is just riding another wave now that conscious rap is going platinum with J Cole and Kendrick? If trap was doing them numbers would this album sound like it does?
metal face terrorist
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Listencloser;c-9864593 said:What if Jay Z is just riding another wave now that conscious rap is going platinum with J Cole and Kendrick? If trap was doing them numbers would this album sound like it does?
You finna get flagged, nosign, wacked, etc.
