4:44 Album - *JAY-Z* (06/30/17).

[DarthRozay]

@illbot preach2teach tryna holla at you to lick your booty hole

 

[Busta Carmichael]

Albums been out 2 days and people are labeling this a classic album already lol I am loving that new Kendrick album but still I need to give it time before I fully make up my mind on something like that, to each his own tho we all have different opinions for example my favorite album from Jay could be his AG album or the Blueprint and I thik the Black Album is weak as fuck but hey that's just me.

And apparently this is also you

@busta carmichael this prechin2teachin dude is out here lickin other dude's booty holes?

Yea bruh smh.

Dude wild nh

 

[Busta Carmichael]

Albums been out 2 days and people are labeling this a classic album already lol I am loving that new Kendrick album but still I need to give it time before I fully make up my mind on something like that, to each his own tho we all have different opinions for example my favorite album from Jay could be his AG album or the Blueprint and I thik the Black Album is weak as fuck but hey that's just me.

And apparently this is also you

Fuck yeah that's me and I meant every word, why you trying to derail the thread tho? thought you Jay stans hated when we do that?

Nah I'm just trying to see what kinda dude we're dealing with here, calling black album weak.

Maybe that's why u have such shitty opinions

Carry on with your day sir.

Me wanting to lick Pico's arse hole has nothing to do with my musical taste and the black album just isn't that nice to me I do like some of the tracks on there tho, you pull that shit again and I'm telling illbot.

Lol tell him I'm waiting.

 

[Preach2Teach]

I sent that message to a female now gtfoh with your sexual fantasies darth, I am your father.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Nigga is the only rapper to have a 5 mic album in 3 different decades

Sure, if you're very liberal with the mics I guess. IMO, his only 5 mic albums are RD and Blueprint. And I wouldn't even give Blueprint 5 mics. I just wouldn't argue with someone if they did.

Reasons why I'll call this album​ a classic

1. Timing

2. Subject matter

3. Growth

4. Lyrics actually carrying the song and not the beat

5. No promo singles

6. No rap features

7. Beat selection

8. Final album

9. General positive reception

10. Flow

11. Unexpected

Can't think of more right now. But honestly ain't nobody as old as Jay dropping anything close to this. Y'all always saying old rappers need to stfu and nobody wants to hear them.

Dude is almost 50 years old and flowing his ass off. Not only does the album inspire younger rappers to get on their shit.

It might also inspire the older rappers to get back on their shit. Hip hop is not a young man's game, this proves that.

The majority of that list isn't even really music oriented though. 1, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 11 really shouldn't even be considered when calling an album a classic. I mean if it's a fan classic or a personal classic to you for those reasons, that's cool. But come on, if we are objectively rating the music then only 2, 4, 7, and 10 from your list really matter. 3 is iffy, but I can see that being a reasonable consideration. And 4 probably isn't even true since a lot of the people in here calling the album a classic are doing so because of the production.

Don't understand why it's an issue why some people feel insecure album is very great . Y'all not even discussing why y'all don't agree. Y'all just discussing the issues some of y'all have with people feeling this way with this album

Because I really don't have a problem with the album. I think it's a good album, just not a classic. I mean @"Busta Carmichael " is basically calling the album a classic because of a bunch of stuff that have nothing to do with the music. What does Jay being 50 have to do with anything? Since when was that a consideration for rating an album? To me Jay fans are the least objective fans period. It's like you go out of your way to overrate his stuff. But I guess it ain't really your fault. Jay is a great rapper, but he's a supreme self promoter and marketer, so it's not surprising people buy the hype.

Niggas knew nothing about how this album would sound. If niggas really feel this album is a classic why is that so hard to believe. Everyome expected another mchg and if you look at tje first replies whem this album dropped, everyone was surprised at the direction and sound of this album. I understand seeimg the reactions may come off as hyping it up alot, but this album is that good alot of people and the few that dont like the album or feel its over hyped obviously take issue with this album beimg praised like it is

I don't have a problem with the album being praised. But it's my opinion it's being overrated. I'm a rap fan. I listened to the album and I like it. I just don't think it's classic, and I don't really see how anyone else, objectively speaking, could call it a classic. Then I come on here and see a bunch of people calling it classic and then justifying that claim with a bunch of reasons that don't have anything to do with the music. So he's making grown man music. That's cool, but him making a good grown man album doesn't make it a classic automatically. It just seems like some of you are calling it Classic because you're surprised at how good it is and because it might be Jay's last album (again).

 

[buttuh_b]

To me an album gotta be out at least 5, 10 years before I can consider it classic.

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

To be fair a lot of albums get called classic for so many variables that don't have anything to do with the actual music.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

To be fair a lot of albums get called classic for so many variables that don't have anything to do with the actual music.

Like what?

Niggas wasn't out there calling Ready to Die a classic because Biggie was fat but still getting pussy.

 

[KnowReasonForPeace]

To me an album gotta be out at least 5, 10 years before I can consider it classic.

Fans of them niggas you posted calling they music classic man and tjey only putting out mixtapes

 

[KnowReasonForPeace]

Nigga is the only rapper to have a 5 mic album in 3 different decades

Sure, if you're very liberal with the mics I guess. IMO, his only 5 mic albums are RD and Blueprint. And I wouldn't even give Blueprint 5 mics. I just wouldn't argue with someone if they did.

Reasons why I'll call this album​ a classic

1. Timing

2. Subject matter

3. Growth

4. Lyrics actually carrying the song and not the beat

5. No promo singles

6. No rap features

7. Beat selection

8. Final album

9. General positive reception

10. Flow

11. Unexpected

Can't think of more right now. But honestly ain't nobody as old as Jay dropping anything close to this. Y'all always saying old rappers need to stfu and nobody wants to hear them.

Dude is almost 50 years old and flowing his ass off. Not only does the album inspire younger rappers to get on their shit.

It might also inspire the older rappers to get back on their shit. Hip hop is not a young man's game, this proves that.

The majority of that list isn't even really music oriented though. 1, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 11 really shouldn't even be considered when calling an album a classic. I mean if it's a fan classic or a personal classic to you for those reasons, that's cool. But come on, if we are objectively rating the music then only 2, 4, 7, and 10 from your list really matter. 3 is iffy, but I can see that being a reasonable consideration. And 4 probably isn't even true since a lot of the people in here calling the album a classic are doing so because of the production.

Don't understand why it's an issue why some people feel insecure album is very great . Y'all not even discussing why y'all don't agree. Y'all just discussing the issues some of y'all have with people feeling this way with this album

Because I really don't have a problem with the album. I think it's a good album, just not a classic. I mean @"Busta Carmichael " is basically calling the album a classic because of a bunch of stuff that have nothing to do with the music. What does Jay being 50 have to do with anything? Since when was that a consideration for rating an album? To me Jay fans are the least objective fans period. It's like you go out of your way to overrate his stuff. But I guess it ain't really your fault. Jay is a great rapper, but he's a supreme self promoter and marketer, so it's not surprising people buy the hype.

Niggas knew nothing about how this album would sound. If niggas really feel this album is a classic why is that so hard to believe. Everyome expected another mchg and if you look at tje first replies whem this album dropped, everyone was surprised at the direction and sound of this album. I understand seeimg the reactions may come off as hyping it up alot, but this album is that good alot of people and the few that dont like the album or feel its over hyped obviously take issue with this album beimg praised like it is

I don't have a problem with the album being praised. But it's my opinion it's being overrated. I'm a rap fan. I listened to the album and I like it. I just don't think it's classic, and I don't really see how anyone else, objectively speaking, could call it a classic. Then I come on here and see a bunch of people calling it classic and then justifying that claim with a bunch of reasons that don't have anything to do with the music. So he's making grown man music. That's cool, but him making a good grown man album doesn't make it a classic automatically. It just seems like some of you are calling it Classic because you're surprised at how good it is and because it might be Jay's last album (again).

Speaking for myself, i think its a classic cause its that great of an album. Its just niggas in here genuinely upset and trolling cause of how much people enjoying and rate the album.

 

[Busta Carmichael]

To be fair a lot of albums get called classic for so many variables that don't have anything to do with the actual music.

Like what?

Niggas wasn't out there calling Ready to Die a classic because Biggie was fat but still getting pussy.

They lowkey called Eminems classic because he was white and could spit.

Completely ignoring rappers that rapped exactly like him.

 

[Busta Carmichael]

Dehaven is all on IG riding Hov nh...

Weird.

 

[KnowReasonForPeace]

Dehaven is all on IG riding Hov nh...

Weird.

Vibing to a snake niggas music huh?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Speaking for myself, i think its a classic cause its that great of an album. Its just niggas in here genuinely upset and trolling cause of how much people enjoying and rate the album.

I'm not upset that people like the album. I like it too. I just think people are overrating it. Me not thinking it is a classic shouldn't be trolling any more than you think it is. I'm sure there are legitimate Jay haters that are mad he released a good product. That's not me. I'd give the album 4/5 and I'm not a Jay fan. That's higher than what I'd give Boomiverse (3.5) and I'm a legitimate Big Boi fan, so I'm not just hating.

 

[sapp08_2001]

Damn Jay came with that fire. I honestly can say this is Jay's best album since The Black Album

 

[KnowReasonForPeace]

Speaking for myself, i think its a classic cause its that great of an album. Its just niggas in here genuinely upset and trolling cause of how much people enjoying and rate the album.

I'm not upset that people like the album. I like it too. I just think people are overrating it. Me not thinking it is a classic shouldn't be trolling any more than you think it is. I'm sure there are legitimate Jay haters that are mad he released a good product. That's not me. I'd give the album 4/5 and I'm not a Jay fan. That's higher than what I'd give Boomiverse (3.5) and I'm a legitimate Big Boi fan, so I'm not just hating.

Im not even talking about you. You the only person who disagrees with the classic stamp thats not trolling and actually have a valid argument

 

[Busta Carmichael]

Dehaven is all on IG riding Hov nh...

Weird.

Link

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFnVsGAwvG/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFkb4PgsGR/

IC won't link captions but u can see them for yourselves.

Bunch of other photos too

 

[KnowReasonForPeace]

Dehaven is all on IG riding Hov nh...

Weird.

Link

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFnVsGAwvG/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFkb4PgsGR/

IC won't link captions but u can see them for yourselves.

Bunch of other photos too

But why give props to a snake nigga? Niggas hurt cause they not in emory or tyty spot.

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

To be fair a lot of albums get called classic for so many variables that don't have anything to do with the actual music.

Like what?

Niggas wasn't out there calling Ready to Die a classic because Biggie was fat but still getting pussy.

You joking but that's damn near how it is at times

"I remember being in the lunch line and "In Da Club" came on over the PA and the principal was dancing. Our principal didn't like anything. Hell yeah it's a classic"

"Pac went number one in jail"

Shit like this is said on here all the time.

 

[double0suge]

This nigga really put the 444 in his name