4:44 Album - *JAY-Z* (06/30/17).

[Go figure]

The bleached asshole bar outrage was overblown

He was obviously being funny

Yall took it too serious

Just like the kendrick line

 

[ThaNubianGod]

Generational wealth, thats is the Key.

My parents didn't have shit,

so that shift started with me.

Its funny considering that Jay along with Puffy started the whole spend money on material shit phase of Hip Hop. His whole career was spent telling people to waste money.

 

[Negro_Caesar]

Hov best intro is the prelude on Kingdom Come. I knew that album was about to be flames after I heard that shit. It wasn't flames but that album was better than people give it credit for

 

[caddo man]

Really enjoy Ye's performance artistry, I used to really respect his raps (whether he wrote them or not) and beatmaking, but I no longer hold him in high regard.

He is by any metric beyond the pale (entendre) now.

J. Cole is that you?

 

[GetoBoy]

I'm enjoying this album. But I've seen some people on social media defending the album against the "Where's the club bangers? I need some slappers! I don't get it." people.

I'm not surprised a lot of people were putting down TPAB (a classic masterpiece) and Untitled for the same reason.

And let's play devil advocate - Is this album filled with boring "Soul/Jazz Beats" too? (I have no problem with laid-back production with soul). Is Jay-Z getting a pass on this for being a legend in the game and being on a level Kendrick and Cole have not reached yet?

You're pushing a narrative nobody said. Alot of people didn't put down TPAB.

I'm not pushing anything, just talking about what I read on this board and other social media outlets. TPAB is a great classic album, but a bunch of people (not everyone) was shitting on it because of its style and not having a lot of radio/club friendly songs like Damn (another great album).

But overall, I'm glad a mainstream artist like Jay-Z released a project like this.

I think more ppl shitted on it becuz it didn't appeal to have much replay value not saying it wasn't a great album but it just wasn't a album you could just put on repeat or at least that's the narrative I got.... That's not the case with this album you could play this back over and over with or without a club banger becuz it has a lot of replay value to it

The bold is where most of these opinions they're talking about lie. Not that the album isn't good, but that it's not an album that you can just put on randomly because of how heavy most of the songs are.

I think with TPAB the message outweighed the music itself where with 4:44 the music and message go hand in hand so it plays better..... If that makes sense

It doesn't. Tha fuck!?

When ppl talk about 4:44 they talk about the message the beats just how it sounds sonically TPAB ppl just more so concentrate on the message not how it comes out as a overall song.... That's why one has replay value to most and the other doesn't to sum ppl

Shut your bitch ass up

Look at this cry baby ass nigga.....awwww did him getoboy hurt your feelings??? Pull your skirt down lol

 

[Nah Son]

If you familiar with Jays catalog listening to this album will make you think back and see his earlier raps in another light. He went so personal on this that you can really connect the dots

Like remember how Jay was always dissing religions and church ("I'm from the place where the church is the flakiest", "tell that preacher he a preacher I'm a prophet", "Jesus cant save you life starts when the church ends" etc)

Now we learn that his grandfather abused his aunt and he was a preacher and that made him mistrust the church early on as a child. I get how it took him so long to speak on things like that but as a listener its dope to learn more about the background. Its kinda like watching the making of of one of your favorite movies

 

[Stew]

Generational wealth, thats is the Key.

My parents didn't have shit,

so that shift started with me.

Its funny considering that Jay along with Puffy started the whole spend money on material shit phase of Hip Hop. His whole career was spent telling people to waste money.

I wish he would've mentioned that.

 

[BobOblah]

After listening to the album all weekend I'm gonna have to put this album right below Blueprint and Reasonable doubt. Might be the best produced album I heard since MBDTF. Yea...

Every song on this album is good and has a purpose. BAM might be the hardest hittin jay song since PSA.

Kill Jay-Z - jay poetically checking himself (and kanye). Another great jay album intro. This beat clearly Let's you know what you about to get production wise.

Life of OJ- double entendre...jay checking Orenthal's uncle tom ways, as well as his own past mistakes as old jay. ('Drumroll'..Dumbo). Song almost made me feel bad bout bootlegging this shit until I realized only paying $9.99 wasn't an option

Smile- the i still got it track "Y'all thought I was washed" might be one of my least favorite. Beat still fire though.

Caught your eye- perfect plan and execution. Is like jay made a song inspired by the "dead presidents" "through my peripheral i see you schemin" line. That hook and intro is amazingly perfect. Right now my favorite song on the album. Jay back to checking niggas on this one, even 'LL caught a hot one. Jay a petty nigga lol. Remind me of how nba players said Jordan would get inspired by anything to annihilate his competition.

4:44- jay at his most vulnerable since maybe "Lucky me" or "song cry". Beat slaps. Is hard for a rapper to not get drowned out by everything going on in this beat (Wayne was able to do it on 6'7"..sorry for the comparison) is not an easy task. But the topic itself keeps jay afloat. Quotables for days. Dude really made an apology track to Beyonce and "made it a hot song". The superhero analogy at the end was brilliant.

Family feud- interesting song placement and title considering what the previous track was about. Dude basically telling new rappers and old rappers to stop destroying each other and build the house of hip hop together. Beyonce vocals were dope...another fire ass beat ( no id went nuts on this shit)

Bam- love it, already discussed this, see above. (Fuck all that pretty shawn Carter shit is HOV, another PSA from jay).

Moonlight- fugee sample that nas rapped over recently.. ironically enough, jay's album is the one actually done (Kanye shrug). Jay back to checking niggas, the current rap generation catch a couple hot one here, (skirrrt). The song title goes with the black empowerment theme of the album.

Marcy me- Spoiler alert..this instrumental will get embedded in your membrane. Jay's flow is reminiscent of December 4th on this one, fits the beat perfect. The shout out to the legends/influences is well placed. Low key GEM. Will grow on you the more you hear it. Trust.

Legacy- great outro. Basically brings what the whole album is about together. Family, growth, black owned businesses and passing down generational wealth, I repeat "generational wealth, which is why jay don't call them few stacks niggas is putting on their ear on Instagram "money".

Final thoughts- No It, you a genius!! Sorry kanye.

Facts. Marcy Me has been creeping up my list of favorites daily and that beat is fire

 

[natural born sinners]

Hov best intro is the prelude on Kingdom Come. I knew that album was about to be flames after I heard that shit. It wasn't flames but that album was better than people give it credit for

Negro pleeeease, if you don't get all the way the fuck outta here w this malarkey lol...niggas act like The Dynasty intro ain't happen

 

[Mr 202]

Hov best intro is the prelude on Kingdom Come. I knew that album was about to be flames after I heard that shit. It wasn't flames but that album was better than people give it credit for

The Dynasty intro in my opinion is his best intro

 

[blackrain]

Generational wealth, thats is the Key.

My parents didn't have shit,

so that shift started with me.

Its funny considering that Jay along with Puffy started the whole spend money on material shit phase of Hip Hop. His whole career was spent telling people to waste money.

Yeah because they were the 1st rappers to brag about spending money on silly shit

 

[Nah Son]

Dynasty intro is arguably the best intro ever in hip hop. Shit is perfection

 

[Turfaholic]

Dynasty intro is arguably the best intro ever in hip hop. Shit is perfection

400 Degreez intro>>>>

 

[dalyricalbandit]

Hova intro on Vol 3 is slept on I always felt it gives the Dynasty intro a run

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Dynasty intro is arguably the best intro ever in hip hop. Shit is perfection

400 Degreez intro>>>>

My nigga I don't care where I'm at...shit comes on...I'm getting live...top 5 intro ever

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

After the dynasty, the vol 1 intro Is the best

 

[Midwest_Journalist]

I'm enjoying this album. But I've seen some people on social media defending the album against the "Where's the club bangers? I need some slappers! I don't get it." people.

I'm not surprised a lot of people were putting down TPAB (a classic masterpiece) and Untitled for the same reason.

And let's play devil advocate - Is this album filled with boring "Soul/Jazz Beats" too? (I have no problem with laid-back production with soul). Is Jay-Z getting a pass on this for being a legend in the game and being on a level Kendrick and Cole have not reached yet?

You're pushing a narrative nobody said. Alot of people didn't put down TPAB.

I'm not pushing anything, just talking about what I read on this board and other social media outlets. TPAB is a great classic album, but a bunch of people (not everyone) was shitting on it because of its style and not having a lot of radio/club friendly songs like Damn (another great album).

But overall, I'm glad a mainstream artist like Jay-Z released a project like this.

I think more ppl shitted on it becuz it didn't appeal to have much replay value not saying it wasn't a great album but it just wasn't a album you could just put on repeat or at least that's the narrative I got.... That's not the case with this album you could play this back over and over with or without a club banger becuz it has a lot of replay value to it

I think both albums have replay value.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Is this album as surprisingly good as the Wild? No Jay dickrider responses please. I already know how ya'll gonna feel no matter what the album was like. But if an objective listener says it's good, I might hunt it down and give it a try.

 

[power_wisdom]

If you familiar with Jays catalog listening to this album will make you think back and see his earlier raps in another light. He went so personal on this that you can really connect the dots

Like remember how Jay was always dissing religions and church ("I'm from the place where the church is the flakiest", "tell that preacher he a preacher I'm a prophet", "Jesus cant save you life starts when the church ends" etc)

Now we learn that his grandfather abused his aunt and he was a preacher and that made him mistrust the church early on as a child. I get how it took him so long to speak on things like that but as a listener its dope to learn more about the background. Its kinda like watching the making of of one of your favorite movies

He said that his father's father was a preacher. And his action effected the Carter's family

"That's how we keep Carter money all in the family

You see, my father, son of a preacher man

Whose daughter couldn't escape the reach of the preacher's hand

That charge of energy set all the Carters back"

But his father family was Reeves not a Carter. And wouldn't that effect his Aunt family more than his intermediate family?

 

[Mr.LV]

Jay Z comes back to Brooklyn at the Barclays I got to go see him live.