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idoitforhiphop10
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DMTxCannabis;3243815 said:By that logic, Soulja Boy and Lil B should have went gold/platinum.
now those two have the biggest flops in hip hop history. i would say flocka too.
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ptowndonte;3243819 said:And this means what?
It means that an artist that is in the game for a longer amount of time would naturally have more success than an artist that haven't been in the game as long.
idoitforhiphop10;3243830 said:now those two have the biggest flops in hip hop history. i would say flocka too.
Word, but Flocka moved like 285,000 total though. And that shit was straight trash. Quality aside, i would actually use Flocka's debut as an example, he sold 37,000 his first week, only to end up maxing out at 285-290,000.
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DMTxCannabis;3243846 said:It means that an artist that is in the game for a longer amount of time would naturally have more success than an artist that haven't been in the game as long.
Word, but Flocka moved like 285,000 though. And that shit was straight trash.
But Waka Flocka released his debut a year after he even started RAPPING and moved close to 300k
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idoitforhiphop10
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ptowndonte;3243819 said:And this means what?
it means that they had more time to develop as artist than cole, thus the reason why they have some type of leverage over cole. Wiz was first signed in 2007 to warner bros. he had time to find his niche and see wat worked for him and what didn't. he found the weed gimmick and now he's blown up. Big sean has also been signed since 2007 and got time to cultivate his fanbase threw mixtapes and shows. Cole's been signed since 2009 (2years) and he's just gettin warmed up (no pun intended)
My point is that wiz and sean had more time than cole to develop, thus is the reason why they are more successful at the minute.
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ptowndonte;3243858 said:But Waka Flocka released his debut a year after he even started RAPPING and moved close to 300k
But wasn't he signed to Bricksquad since 2009 though? Plus Flocka rode the momentum of Gucci's music and popularity, while Cole been standing on his own as an artist.
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idoitforhiphop10;3243865 said:it means that they had more time to develop as artist than cole, thus the reason why they have some type of leverage ver cole. Wiz was first signed in 2007 to warner bros. he had time to find his niche and see wat worked for him and what didn't. he found the weed gimmick and now he's blown up. Big sean has also been signed since 2007 and got time to cultivate his fanbase threw mixtapes and shows. Cole's been signed since 2009 (2years) and he's just gettin warmed up (no pun intended)
My point is that wiz and sean had more time than cole to develop, thus is the reason why they are more successful at the minute.
All that development talk is bullshit. Big Sean and Wiz Khalifa and whoever else dropped they albums cause instead of waiting until they got 500k Twitter followers or whatever else, they hopped in that studio and got to work and put out something the people could appreciate. J Cole has toyed around with you fools
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DMTxCannabis;3243873 said:But wasn't he signed to Bricksquad since 2009 though? Plus Flocka rode the momentum of Gucci's music and popularity, while Cole been standing on his own as an artist.
Brick Squad wasn't an official label until 2009.
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idoitforhiphop10
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ptowndonte;3243878 said:All that development talk is bullshit. Big Sean and Wiz Khalifa and whoever else dropped they albums cause instead of waiting until they got 500k Twitter followers or whatever else, they hopped in that studio and got to work and put out something the people could appreciate. J Cole has toyed around with you fools
he's bout to come out in 3 weeks though. wats ur point?
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idoitforhiphop10;3243865 said:it means that they had more time to develop as artist than cole, thus the reason why they have some type of leverage over cole. Wiz was first signed in 2007 to warner bros. he had time to find his niche and see wat worked for him and what didn't. he found the weed gimmick and now he's blown up. Big sean has also been signed since 2007 and got time to cultivate his fanbase threw mixtapes and shows. Cole's been signed since 2009 (2years) and he's just gettin warmed up (no pun intended)
My point is that wiz and sean had more time than cole to develop, thus is the reason why they are more successful at the minute.
Not to mention Wiz had a deal with Warner Bros from July 2007 to July 2009...
...Say Yeah!
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idoitforhiphop10;3243885 said:he's bout to come out in 3 weeks though. wats ur point?
Sure he is.....
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Breezy_Kilroy
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when did niggas become so obsessed with sales like what is this doing for you? i understand liking an artist but damn you would think this nigga gave you a job.
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mryounggun
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J-Breezy;3243891 said:when did niggas become so obsessed with sales like what is this doing for you? i understand liking an artist but damn you would think this nigga gave you a job.
..........
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ptowndonte;3243884 said:Brick Squad wasn't an official label until 2009.
And Roc Nation wasn't founded until 2008, and didn't have an artist until 2009 (J. Cole), and didn't have more than one artist until 2010...
...While Bricksquad started off with more than one rapper.
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idoitforhiphop10
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J-Breezy;3243891 said:when did niggas become so obsessed with sales like what is this doing for you? i understand liking an artist but damn you would think this nigga gave you a job.
i rather him sell 10K first week and have a great album than sell 200k and his album is shitty (lupe). It's the haters bringin up sales.
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Breezy_Kilroy
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idoitforhiphop10;3243903 said:i rather him sell 10K first week and have a great album than sell 200k and his album is shitty (lupe). It's the haters bringin up sales.
c/s quality over quantity
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ptowndonte;3243878 said:All that development talk is bullshit. Big Sean and Wiz Khalifa and whoever else dropped they albums cause instead of waiting until they got 500k Twitter followers or whatever else, they hopped in that studio and got to work and put out something the people could appreciate. J Cole has toyed around with you fools
real shit my nigga. niggas acting like big sean and wiz ain't put in work. i mean you got niggas predicting big sean will disappear. big sean has surpassed j.cole in terms of status in the game. face it i know it hurts. wait until the mgc video next week? hype williams got another classic on the way. ffoe. expect sales to pick up. oh yeah "high" video with wiz after that.
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idoitforhiphop10
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ptowndonte;3243890 said:Sure he is.....
his album is already at the top 5 of the amazon charts. so yeah he is nigga.
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idoitforhiphop10
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DayDay34;3243934 said:lol the same niggas bragging about wtt sales are now saying sales means nothing now? lol face it sales matter. no sales means no second album.
i never cared about sales nigga. that's ur main arguement to why cole is not poppin rite now.
quality music>>>>>>sales.
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