21yo Dylann Roof walks into a Black church and, reportedly, 9 people dead at AME Church S.C(caught)

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a.mann;8140670 said:
@Stiff

This shit you trying to pull is parallel to the Right Wing/Fox News jive



""Uh...uh Obama didn't SAY it was terrorism,

him said it was an act of terror ""
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Not at all. My gripe is that they politicized a racially motivated terrorist attack to further push agendas that pander to their bases, that again don't address Black interests.
 
a.mann;8140660 said:
Stiff;8140635 said:
a.mann;8140615 said:
Stiff;8140607 said:
@a.mann

and another thing:

Bernie Sanders ain't a democrat

He's running as a Democrat

The policies and legislation he vote and stand behind are based on Liberal progressive Democrat

He's running for the Democratic presidential nomination…but he's an independent… some democrats in New York are trying to use this fact to prevent him from showing on the primary ballot for that state. He is a left-leaning self described socialist..but he is NOT a member of the Democratic party

I said he was running as a Democrat=FACT

I said his the policies and legislation he votes and stand behind are based on Liberal progressive Democrat =FACT

I said he's not a democrat = FACT
 
Stiff;8140569 said:
a.mann;8140473 said:
Stiff;8140395 said:
So democrats are making this about gun violence and a call for tighter gun restrictions

Democrats aren't even pretending to give a fuck about Black people anymore..bet y'all asses voting for Hillary though.

Do you even research your talking points before speaking or you just spew baseless assumptions that fits your chosen narrative like some ignorant conservative???

Hillary Clinton: It’s time to face ‘hard truths’ about race, guns, violence



Hillary Clinton said the tragic mass shooting in a Charleston, S.C. church Wednesday night should open up a national conversation about the “hard truths” concerning race, violence, guns and division in America.

“How many people do we need to see cut down before we act? “she asked, speaking to a group of Latino elected officials in Las Vegas Thursday.

Story Continued Below

Clinton arrived in Nevada Wednesday night from Charleston where she had been campaigning. She said she learned of the “horrific massacre,” which is being investigated as a hate crime, upon landing.

Read more:http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/hillary-clinton-charleston-shooting-119180.html#ixzz3dSlc1476

Bernie Sanders calls Charleston shooting an act of terrorism

At press briefing on Thursday, Senator Bernie Sanders called the shooting in Charleston, South Carolina, an act of terrorism and a "horrific reminder" that racism still exists in the United States.

"What transpired in Charleston, South Carolina, last night was not just a tragedy, it was an act of terror," Sanders said in a statementhttp://www.dailydot.com/politics/bernie-sanders-charleston-shooting-statement/

Come on b…

this is what your girl hilliary said in ACCURATE context

“How many people do we need to see cut down before we act?” she asked, during a summit of elected and appointed Latino politicians meeting in Las Vegas.

She began by saying that her thoughts and prayers were with the victims and their families in the shooting, before turning to a broader discussion of police. “So as we mourn and as our hearts break a little more, and as we send this message of solidarity that we will not forsake those who have been victimized by gun violence, this time we have to find answers together,” Clinton said.

How many innocent people in our country, from little children, to church members, to movie theater attendees, how many people do we need to see cut down before we act?

When she said "How many people do we need to see cut down before we act?" What do you think she was talking about? Acting on the issue of race or acting on the issue of guns? She connected this massacre to the random mass murders in Newton and the Auora Springs shootings in Colorado. So instead of drawing the connections of how this is a manifestation of the deeper racism that exists within America, she instead used it as a way to leverage support for gun control.

And here's ya boy Barry-O

We don't have all the facts, but we do know that once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hand on a gun.

And it is in our power to do something about it. I say that recognizing the politics in this town foreclose a lot of those avenues right now. But it'd be wrong for us not to acknowledge it, and at some point, it's going to important for the American to come to grips with it and for us to be able to shift how we think about the issue of gun violence collectively.

So to answer your question, yes I definitely research things before I speak on them.

I with you

Its easy to grow cynical with politics , but at the same time i feel like political participation is key for blk progress

Not necessarily saying we should continue to blindly vote democrat..

But what else would u suggest we do?

Republican strategies, policy end up eschewing the relevance of social justice... and largely ignore racial disparities and the disruptive social costs created by things like the war on drugs, mass incarceration

Hillary and others haven't said all the right things, but democrats haven't lost my vote yet

I'd vote for bernie, if i actually thought it would mean something

 
Man like I said time and time over......cacs don't understand shit but VIOLENCE AND CARNAGE. Nothing else, only violence. Shit will change when they start losing family, start losing their children, go shoot a pope or some shit. They don't know peace man that's why we stay at war. Bears arms brethren......invest in protecting you and yours.
 
The media keeps blaming guns and mental health and keep alluding to the evilness that some people have and then stop short of mentioning anything about where that evil comes from and how to overcome it

And no news outlet or even pastors that are on these shows have asked the public if they are ready when their time comes.
 
damn this is fucked up. and yall niggas will still be buddy buddy with these crackers beyond just work. damn im glad i aint got no white friends or that i dont see "color" as most of you niggas on here proclaim. dont lie yall love white women and white people more than yall love yourself or your people. disgusting!
 
alliknowishate;8140760 said:
damn this is fucked up. and yall niggas will still be buddy buddy with these crackers beyond just work. damn im glad i aint got no white friends or that i dont see "color" as most of you niggas on here proclaim. dont lie yall love white women and white people more than yall love yourself or your people. disgusting!

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/suspect-church-shooting-apartheid-era-patches-31865636

Friend Says Church Shooting Suspect Ranted About Race

LEXINGTON, S.C. —

Jun 18, 2015, 10:06 PM

In recent weeks, Dylann Storm Roof reconnected with a childhood buddy he hadn't seen in five years and started railing about the Trayvon Martin case, about black people "taking over the world" and about the need for someone to do something about it for the sake of "the white race," the friend said Thursday.

On Thursday, Roof, 21, was arrested in the shooting deaths of nine people during a prayer meeting at a historic black church in Charleston — an attack decried by stunned community leaders and politicians as a hate crime.

In the hours after the Wednesday night bloodbath, a portrait began to take shape of Roof as someone with racist views and at least two recent run-ins with the law. On his Facebook page, the young white man wore a jacket with the flags of the former white-racist regimes of South Africa and Rhodesia.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Joseph Meek Jr. said he and Roof had been best friends in middle school but lost touch when Roof moved away about five years ago. The two reconnected a few weeks ago after Roof reached out to Meek on Facebook, Meek said.

Roof never talked about race years ago when they were friends, but recently made remarks out of the blue about the killing of unarmed black 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Florida and the riots in Baltimore over the death of Freddie Gray in police custody, Meek said.

"He said blacks were taking over the world. Someone needed to do something about it for the white race," Meek said, adding that the friends were getting drunk on vodka. "He said he wanted segregation between whites and blacks. I said, 'That's not the way it should be.' But he kept talking about it."


Meeks said Roof also told him that he had used birthday money from his parents to buy a gun and that he had "a plan." He didn't elaborate on what it was, but Meeks said he was worried — and said he knew Roof had the "Glock" — a .45 caliber pistol — in the trunk of his car.

Meek said he took the gun from the trunk of Roof's car and hid it in his house, just in case.

"I didn't think he would do anything," he said.

But the next day, when Roof was sober, he gave it back.

Meek said that when he woke up Wednesday morning, Roof was at his house, sleeping in his car outside. Later that day, Roof dropped Meek off at a lake with his brother Jacob, but Roof hated the outdoors and decided he would rather go see a movie.

Jacob said that when he got in the car, Roof told him he should be careful moving his backpack in the car because of the "magazines."

Jacob said he thought Roof was referring to periodicals, not the devices that store ammunition.

"Now it all makes sense," he said.

Joseph Meek said he didn't see his friend again until a surveillance-camera image of a young man with a soup-bowl haircut was broadcast on television Thursday morning in the wake of the shooting. Meek said he didn't think twice about calling authorities.

"I didn't THINK it was him. I KNEW it was him," he said.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights group that tracks hate organizations and extremists, said it was not aware of Roof before the rampage. And some other friends interviewed said they did not know him to be racist.

"I never thought he'd do something like this," said high school friend Antonio Metze, 19, who is black. "He had black friends."

Roof used to skateboard while growing up in the Lexington area and had long hair back then. He attended high school in Lexington and in nearby Columbia from 2008 to 2010, school officials said. It was not immediately clear whether he graduated.

"He was pretty smart," Metze said.

Meek's mother, Kimberly Konzny, said she and her son instantly recognized Roof in the surveillance camera image because Roof had the same stained sweatshirt he wore while playing Xbox video games in their home recently. It was stained because he had worked at a landscaping and pest control business, she said.

"I don't know what was going through his head," she said. "He was a really sweet kid. He was quiet. He only had a few friends."

State court records for Roof as an adult show a misdemeanor drug case from March that was pending against him and a misdemeanor trespassing charge from April. Authorities had no immediate details. As for any earlier offenses, juvenile records are generally sealed in South Carolina.

Court records list no attorney for him.

Meek said Roof's mother and her boyfriend live in Lexington, and his father lives in Columbia.

Roof displayed a Confederate flag on his license plate, according to Konzny, but that is not unusual in the South.

His Facebook profile picture showed him wearing a jacket with a green-and-white flag patch, the emblem of white-ruled Rhodesia, the African country that became Zimbabwe in 1980. Another patch showed the South African flag from the era of white minority rule that ended in the 1990s.

In Montgomery, Alabama, the president of the Southern Poverty Law Center, Richard Cohen, said it is unclear whether Roof had any connection to any of the 16 white supremacist organizations the SPLC has identified as operating in South Carolina.

But Cohen said that based on Roof's Facebook page, he appeared to be a "disaffected white supremacist."

In a statement, Cohen said the church attack is a reminder that while the post-Sept. 11 U.S. is focused on jihadi terrorism, the threat of homegrown extremism is "very real." Since 2000, the SPLC has seen an increase in the number of hate groups in the U.S., Cohen said.

"The increase has been driven by a backlash to the country's increasing racial diversity, an increase symbolized for many by the presence of an African American in the White House," he said.
 
desertrain10;8140748 said:
Stiff;8140569 said:
a.mann;8140473 said:
Stiff;8140395 said:
So democrats are making this about gun violence and a call for tighter gun restrictions

Democrats aren't even pretending to give a fuck about Black people anymore..bet y'all asses voting for Hillary though.

Do you even research your talking points before speaking or you just spew baseless assumptions that fits your chosen narrative like some ignorant conservative???

Hillary Clinton: It’s time to face ‘hard truths’ about race, guns, violence



Hillary Clinton said the tragic mass shooting in a Charleston, S.C. church Wednesday night should open up a national conversation about the “hard truths” concerning race, violence, guns and division in America.

“How many people do we need to see cut down before we act? “she asked, speaking to a group of Latino elected officials in Las Vegas Thursday.

Story Continued Below

Clinton arrived in Nevada Wednesday night from Charleston where she had been campaigning. She said she learned of the “horrific massacre,” which is being investigated as a hate crime, upon landing.

Read more:http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/hillary-clinton-charleston-shooting-119180.html#ixzz3dSlc1476

Bernie Sanders calls Charleston shooting an act of terrorism

At press briefing on Thursday, Senator Bernie Sanders called the shooting in Charleston, South Carolina, an act of terrorism and a "horrific reminder" that racism still exists in the United States.

"What transpired in Charleston, South Carolina, last night was not just a tragedy, it was an act of terror," Sanders said in a statementhttp://www.dailydot.com/politics/bernie-sanders-charleston-shooting-statement/

Come on b…

this is what your girl hilliary said in ACCURATE context

“How many people do we need to see cut down before we act?” she asked, during a summit of elected and appointed Latino politicians meeting in Las Vegas.

She began by saying that her thoughts and prayers were with the victims and their families in the shooting, before turning to a broader discussion of police. “So as we mourn and as our hearts break a little more, and as we send this message of solidarity that we will not forsake those who have been victimized by gun violence, this time we have to find answers together,” Clinton said.

How many innocent people in our country, from little children, to church members, to movie theater attendees, how many people do we need to see cut down before we act?

When she said "How many people do we need to see cut down before we act?" What do you think she was talking about? Acting on the issue of race or acting on the issue of guns? She connected this massacre to the random mass murders in Newton and the Auora Springs shootings in Colorado. So instead of drawing the connections of how this is a manifestation of the deeper racism that exists within America, she instead used it as a way to leverage support for gun control.

And here's ya boy Barry-O

We don't have all the facts, but we do know that once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hand on a gun.

And it is in our power to do something about it. I say that recognizing the politics in this town foreclose a lot of those avenues right now. But it'd be wrong for us not to acknowledge it, and at some point, it's going to important for the American to come to grips with it and for us to be able to shift how we think about the issue of gun violence collectively.

So to answer your question, yes I definitely research things before I speak on them.

I with you

Its easy to grow cynical with politics , but at the same time i feel like political participation is key for blk progress

Not necessarily saying we should continue to blindly vote democrat..

But what else would u suggest we do?

Republican strategies, policy end up eschewing the relevance of social justice... and largely ignore racial disparities and the disruptive social costs created by things like the war on drugs, mass incarceration

Hillary and others haven't said all the right things, but democrats haven't lost my vote yet

I'd vote for bernie, if i actually thought it would mean something

I honestly don't know…if we were to move away as a block from the democratic party I feel like parties would at least try to earn our votes

As it is now republicans don't bother with Blacks. Democrats take the Black vote for granted (and rightfully so). The way it's set up now isn't in our interests at all.

Bernie seems like an interesting candidate but like you said, I doubt he has a shot. Out of Hiliary, Bernie, and any of the Republican nominees Bernie definitely has my vote.
 
stringer bell;8140768 said:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/suspect-church-shooting-apartheid-era-patches-31865636

Friend Says Church Shooting Suspect Ranted About Race

LEXINGTON, S.C. —

Jun 18, 2015, 10:06 PM

In recent weeks, Dylann Storm Roof reconnected with a childhood buddy he hadn't seen in five years and started railing about the Trayvon Martin case, about black people "taking over the world" and about the need for someone to do something about it for the sake of "the white race," the friend said Thursday.

On Thursday, Roof, 21, was arrested in the shooting deaths of nine people during a prayer meeting at a historic black church in Charleston — an attack decried by stunned community leaders and politicians as a hate crime.

In the hours after the Wednesday night bloodbath, a portrait began to take shape of Roof as someone with racist views and at least two recent run-ins with the law. On his Facebook page, the young white man wore a jacket with the flags of the former white-racist regimes of South Africa and Rhodesia.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Joseph Meek Jr. said he and Roof had been best friends in middle school but lost touch when Roof moved away about five years ago. The two reconnected a few weeks ago after Roof reached out to Meek on Facebook, Meek said.

Roof never talked about race years ago when they were friends, but recently made remarks out of the blue about the killing of unarmed black 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Florida and the riots in Baltimore over the death of Freddie Gray in police custody, Meek said.

"He said blacks were taking over the world. Someone needed to do something about it for the white race," Meek said, adding that the friends were getting drunk on vodka. "He said he wanted segregation between whites and blacks. I said, 'That's not the way it should be.' But he kept talking about it."


Meeks said Roof also told him that he had used birthday money from his parents to buy a gun and that he had "a plan." He didn't elaborate on what it was, but Meeks said he was worried — and said he knew Roof had the "Glock" — a .45 caliber pistol — in the trunk of his car.

Meek said he took the gun from the trunk of Roof's car and hid it in his house, just in case.

"I didn't think he would do anything," he said.

But the next day, when Roof was sober, he gave it back.

Meek said that when he woke up Wednesday morning, Roof was at his house, sleeping in his car outside. Later that day, Roof dropped Meek off at a lake with his brother Jacob, but Roof hated the outdoors and decided he would rather go see a movie.

Jacob said that when he got in the car, Roof told him he should be careful moving his backpack in the car because of the "magazines."

Jacob said he thought Roof was referring to periodicals, not the devices that store ammunition.

"Now it all makes sense," he said.

Joseph Meek said he didn't see his friend again until a surveillance-camera image of a young man with a soup-bowl haircut was broadcast on television Thursday morning in the wake of the shooting. Meek said he didn't think twice about calling authorities.

"I didn't THINK it was him. I KNEW it was him," he said.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights group that tracks hate organizations and extremists, said it was not aware of Roof before the rampage. And some other friends interviewed said they did not know him to be racist.

"I never thought he'd do something like this," said high school friend Antonio Metze, 19, who is black. "He had black friends."

Roof used to skateboard while growing up in the Lexington area and had long hair back then. He attended high school in Lexington and in nearby Columbia from 2008 to 2010, school officials said. It was not immediately clear whether he graduated.

"He was pretty smart," Metze said.

Meek's mother, Kimberly Konzny, said she and her son instantly recognized Roof in the surveillance camera image because Roof had the same stained sweatshirt he wore while playing Xbox video games in their home recently. It was stained because he had worked at a landscaping and pest control business, she said.

"I don't know what was going through his head," she said. "He was a really sweet kid. He was quiet. He only had a few friends."

State court records for Roof as an adult show a misdemeanor drug case from March that was pending against him and a misdemeanor trespassing charge from April. Authorities had no immediate details. As for any earlier offenses, juvenile records are generally sealed in South Carolina.

Court records list no attorney for him.

Meek said Roof's mother and her boyfriend live in Lexington, and his father lives in Columbia.

Roof displayed a Confederate flag on his license plate, according to Konzny, but that is not unusual in the South.

His Facebook profile picture showed him wearing a jacket with a green-and-white flag patch, the emblem of white-ruled Rhodesia, the African country that became Zimbabwe in 1980. Another patch showed the South African flag from the era of white minority rule that ended in the 1990s.

In Montgomery, Alabama, the president of the Southern Poverty Law Center, Richard Cohen, said it is unclear whether Roof had any connection to any of the 16 white supremacist organizations the SPLC has identified as operating in South Carolina.

But Cohen said that based on Roof's Facebook page, he appeared to be a "disaffected white supremacist."

In a statement, Cohen said the church attack is a reminder that while the post-Sept. 11 U.S. is focused on jihadi terrorism, the threat of homegrown extremism is "very real." Since 2000, the SPLC has seen an increase in the number of hate groups in the U.S., Cohen said.

"The increase has been driven by a backlash to the country's increasing racial diversity, an increase symbolized for many by the presence of an African American in the White House," he said.

"I never thought he'd do something like this," said high school friend Antonio Metze, 19, who is black. "He had black friends."

Quoted for emphasis

 
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matt2;8140754 said:
The media keeps blaming guns and mental health and keep alluding to the evilness that some people have and then stop short of mentioning anything about where that evil comes from and how to overcome it

And no news outlet or even pastors that are on these shows have asked the public if they are ready when their time comes.

We have to find out who "radicalized" this young man

I have an ideal though....

Fox news

Breibert,

theBlaze,

InforWars

WorldNetDaily,

Newsmax,

Stormfront,

RedState,

theDailyCaller
 
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