2012 OAKLAND RAIDERS REGULAR SEASON THREAD (Prelude to the Terrell Pryor Era)

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......SMARTEN UP & FUCK U @madjack you still trying to kick football knowledge,

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I told you about Palmer.

Smarten up @Madjack you still trying to kick football knowledge, what in the hell you tell me about Carson Palmer.

Carson Palmer is a Good STARTING NFL QUATERBACK who have the height, arm strength and football IQ.......Carson Palmer have been a winner on the field since his youth.

But to be a Great Quaterback you have to have the talent, a great coach and play caller and the right system to play.

Carson Palmer succeeded in Cincy when he was healthy and have the right weapons around him was because the Offense he was in that fit his skills.

The QB coach for Palmer in Cincy was Ken Zampese even though Bartkowski was the off cord it was Zampese who was drawing opening up the playbook and put in the Air Coryell offense that fits Carson Palmer style of play.

The same offense that Flaco is in that's the reason why he was drafted to the team because of that offense when you have 5-7 drop passes and spread the field you have to let the play develop and you will take shots so you have to have the arm strength, the size and weight to succeed.

He came in to Oakland running the air coryell offense that was called by a disciple Al Saunders and did a decent job working with new players who he didn't have the time to work with.

Palmer is in the West Coast offense and that style do not fit him, that's like putting Vick in the Ravens Coryell scheme he will not make past 8 games and that's the reason the raiders kept Al Saunders,

because if you watch the game then you knew by the 2nd quaters they threw out that west coast offense and spread the field, having 3 wr's, running shotgun and pro style attack with 5-7 drops then Carson was putting up points on the board they went back to Al Saunders play book.

SO SHUT YO MOUTH you still don't know shit about football

 

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Yall about to take that L to my Fins tomorrow lol

if we cop a L to the fins then it's time for Reggie Mc'kenzie to answer some damn questions about Dennis Allen

Looking like reggie about to be answering some damn questions.

damn right, i wasn't buying his fucking hype at the press conference he was talking that good shit that he will put his stamp on the team, this and that in the third and he cleaned house.

now this is Reggie fuckin team and the defense played like shit and his coach Dennis Allen don't know a damn thing because his defense sucks, the cornerback play is fucking horrible. Kelly and Seymore got punked in the middle and where in the fuck was Mc'Claine at.

Carson Palmer did his thing and looked good, he put points on the board it's the defense and special teams and some of the off players.

THE RAIDERS DIDN'T PLAY WITH NO HEART, GUTS OR GLORY TODAY

 

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Lol @ dolphins winning. Y'all season already over.

IT AINT OVER TIL THE FAT MAN FUCKS

 

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Infinite footbal knowledge

SMH i school your ass allday about this football shit son, you know what happen last year

 

[VulcanRaven]

Yeah your team was garbage last year and are garbage this year like I said.I did not read that titanGRAPH,but you should be mad @ the Faiders and not me.Losing to the Dolphins should get the whole franchise banned from the league for the rest of the season. ROFL!

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

bruh .....yall niggas suck just like ya'll have for the past decade ....... who gives a shit about a chokeland fader

 

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bruh .....yall niggas suck just like ya'll have for the past decade ....... who gives a shit about a chokeland fader

I hope you aint over 21 saying shit like chokeland fader........

 

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Oakland Raiders Offensive Coordinator Greg Knapp Has Got to Go

Raider Nation, it brings me no great pleasure to tell you this: but I told you so.

Ever since I heard two dreadful words in the offseason, I told you things were going to be bad. I knew this season was going to require many sighs and alcoholic beverages in order to stomach it. What were those two little words, you ask?

Greg Knapp.

Or as I like to affectionately refer to him, Greg “The Offense Takes a” Knapp. Raider fans told me to give him a chance. “Look what he did in Houston!” they argued (even though he was a quarterbacks coach there, not a coordinator).

Let’s be clear about one thing: Knapp hasn’t been a good offensive coordinator in almost a decade. In fact, he’s barely been a passable offensive coordinator since getting canned from the 49ers in 2003. He’s terrible. His schemes are unimaginative, he wastes offensive talent… He’s just no good.

Look what he’s done to Darren McFadden. The guy who was in consideration for MVP midway through 2011 looks like Chris Johnson in 2012; not a comparison any running back wants made about them.

You know what Knapp’s greatest career highlight is? Getting reamed on the sidelines by Terrell Owens in 2003.

As I pointed out in an article earlier this year, Knapp’s been an offensive coordinator for six seasons since San Francisco. Here’s where his offenses ranked: 20th, 12th, 12th, 25th, 29th and 21st in the NFL.

Those two years where his offense was 12th? Michael Vick was his quarterback, when Vick was still actually good. He gets no credit for that.

Sure, the Raiders lost a lot of players from last year’s underachieving 8-8 team. But a lot of those players were on the defensive side of the ball. Carson Palmer is still here. McFadden is still here. Darrius Heyward-Bey, coming off a breakout season, is still here.

But who’s not here? Hue Jackson.

I found myself agreeing completely with Yahoo! sports columnist (and occasional Raider hater) Mike Silver this week, when he wrote that Jackson should never have been fired at all. If you've ever read Silver's stuff, it's obvious he's a little in love with Jackson; but aren’t you missing Jackson right now, too?

Raider fans liked to call Jackson derogatory nicknames like “Huebris,” and insinuate the young coach was a bit power hungry. But he was also an innovative, effective offensive strategist.

The Raiders finished ninth in the NFL in total offense last year. They set a franchise record for points scored against the hated Broncos in 2010. Call Hue what you want, but the man could coach an offense.

New coach Dennis Allen seems like a smart guy. His defensive coordinator, Jason Tarver, has been hailed as a rising star in the league with great ideas. I’m willing to give Tarver a pass for now, since his defense did a tremendous job limiting the Chargers in Week 1 (despite atrocious field position), and the Raider offense wasn’t doing him any favors in Miami.

But Knapp has got to go. The Raiders switched to a zone-blocking scheme under his tutelage, and it’s not working. An offensive line that isn’t hugely different from last season has looked absolutely awful. Palmer has no time to throw; McFadden has no holes to run through.

Unfortunately, Nation, the truth is Knapp is not going anywhere. New general manager Reggie McKenzie comes from Green Bay, where the mantra is to build through the draft. He will preach patience, and Knapp will be here until at least the end of the year.

So what does that mean for you? Fill up the cooler with more beers, because it’s going to be a very long season.

For more foolish analysis, along with the occasional witty comment,

 

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Where is Huff playing in the secondary?

ALAMEDA -- There had been talk towards the end of Hue Jackson's run as Raiders coach that he was contemplating moving free safety Michael Huff to cornerback.

The move never came to pass, what with Jackson's firing, and new coach Dennis Allen left Huff alone.

But with both of the Raiders' current starting corners in Ron Bartell (shoulder blade) and Shawntae Spencer (right foot) out of commission for the foreseeable future, Huff is back in the mix.

Huff was getting work at cornerback during the 30-minute media window to start practice on Wednesday, this after the Raiders signed corner Brandian Ross off the Green Bay Packers' practice squad

 

[Young_Chitlin]

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[_Menace_]

bruh .....yall niggas suck just like ya'll have for the past decade ....... who gives a shit about a chokeland fader

Arent u a chargers fan tho?

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

bruh .....yall niggas suck just like ya'll have for the past decade ....... who gives a shit about a chokeland fader

I hope you aint over 21 saying shit like chokeland fader........

FUCK.YOU.NIGGAS

.....Is That Age Appropriate Enough?

 

[it's me bi***es]

WHAT UP RAIDER NATION! BEEEN CAUGHT UP AT WORK SO HAVNT HAD TIME TO POST, BUT ALREADY McKINZIE'S MOVES DIDNT MAKE SENSE THEN, AND SURE ASS HELL DONT MAKE SENSE NOW! NOW BEING A FOOTBALL FAN I KNOW ITS GONA TAKE MORE THAN 1 SEASON TO TURN SHIT AROUND SO IT AINT OVER MUHFUCKAS! WITH THAT SAID A WIN AT HOME AGAINST PITSBURGH WILL B BIG FOR THE LOCKER ROOM AND COACHES SO WE STILL IN THIS!

AND FUCK ALL THE HATERS! U CAN TALK SHIT OVER A MESSAGE BOARD BUT IN REAL LIFE U KNOW DAMN WELL U BOW DOWN TO THE RAIDER NATION!

 

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bruh .....yall niggas suck just like ya'll have for the past decade ....... who gives a shit about a chokeland fader

I hope you aint over 21 saying shit like chokeland fader........

FUCK.YOU.NIGGAS

.....Is That Age Appropriate Enough?

yeah you still act like a young bitch, how bout you send your bitch over here so i can put some grown man in her life, i mean what bitch want a grown ass man that be on some elementary six grade kid shit and how about i throw in some grown man lesson for you

 

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WHAT UP RAIDER NATION! BEEEN CAUGHT UP AT WORK SO HAVNT HAD TIME TO POST, BUT ALREADY McKINZIE'S MOVES DIDNT MAKE SENSE THEN, AND SURE ASS HELL DONT MAKE SENSE NOW! NOW BEING A FOOTBALL FAN I KNOW ITS GONA TAKE MORE THAN 1 SEASON TO TURN SHIT AROUND SO IT AINT OVER MUHFUCKAS! WITH THAT SAID A WIN AT HOME AGAINST PITSBURGH WILL B BIG FOR THE LOCKER ROOM AND COACHES SO WE STILL IN THIS!

AND FUCK ALL THE HATERS! U CAN TALK SHIT OVER A MESSAGE BOARD BUT IN REAL LIFE U KNOW DAMN WELL U BOW DOWN TO THE RAIDER NATION!

word up, i think the heat is on Dennis Allen, Greg Knapp and Reggie Mckenzie because he should of kept Hue Jackson for another year or so, i was like WTF when he hired Dennis Allen and when DA hired knapp i was like this shit will not go well.

BUT it's THE NATION ALL DAY EVERYDAY, lets cop this W against THE OLD AND SLOW ASS STEELERS

 

[it's me bi***es]

YEA HUE JACK CITY WAS MY DUDE! HE HAD US ON THE RIGHT PATH BUT I THINK PERSONALLY McKINZIE DIDNT LIKE HIM! I DONT THINK IT HAD SHIT TO DO WITH FOOTBALL CUZ HE HAD US ON THE RIGHT PATH! AND FUCK KNAPP! EVERYTIME THE CAMERA ON HIM HE LOOKS CLUELESS AS FUCK! ALLEN LOOKS LOST AS A HEAD COACH ALSO BUT I AINT JUMPING THE GUN YET, NOW IF WE GO 0-4 THEN U'LL SEE ME VENTING ALL OVER THIS THREAD! IM STILL GIVING THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT THOUGH...

 

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YEA HUE JACK CITY WAS MY DUDE! HE HAD US ON THE RIGHT PATH BUT I THINK PERSONALLY McKINZIE DIDNT LIKE HIM! I DONT THINK IT HAD SHIT TO DO WITH FOOTBALL CUZ HE HAD US ON THE RIGHT PATH! AND FUCK KNAPP! EVERYTIME THE CAMERA ON HIM HE LOOKS CLUELESS AS FUCK! ALLEN LOOKS LOST AS A HEAD COACH ALSO BUT I AINT JUMPING THE GUN YET, NOW IF WE GO 0-4 THEN U'LL SEE ME VENTING ALL OVER THIS THREAD! IM STILL GIVING THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT THOUGH...

WORD THE FUCK UP, DENNIS ALLEN is way over his head and look lost as shit all under pressure and nervous and shit.......that's why Reggie Mc'kenzie fucked up, DA is not ready for primetime and Reggie wanted to show that he's the man by firing Hue Jackson because Hue have a Huge presence in media, and the bay area and look at that shit, Reggie done fucked up everything the time work hard for up to last season

GREGG KNAPP always have and always will be wack as play caller

 

[it's me bi***es]

WORD THE FUCK UP, DENNIS ALLEN is way over his head and look lost as shit all under pressure and nervous and shit.......that's why Reggie Mc'kenzie fucked up, DA is not ready for primetime and Reggie wanted to show that he's the man by firing Hue Jackson because Hue have a Huge presence in media, and the bay area and look at that shit, Reggie done fucked up everything the time work hard for up to last season

GREGG KNAPP always have and always will be wack as play caller

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C/S TO THE FULLEST! KNAPP JUST TRYIN TO RUN EVERRYTHING THRU RUN DMC BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT HE HAS TO SPREAD THE FIELD OUT IF NOT TEAMS ARE JUST GONA START CLAPPIN DOWN ON DMC AND WE DONE! JUST LIKE ITS BEEN FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF GAMES. COMMON FUCKIN SENSE! IDK WHAT THIS DUDE IS THINKIN....

 

[_Menace_]

Damn fam did the Raiders snatch ur soul or something?

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

bruh .....yall niggas suck just like ya'll have for the past decade ....... who gives a shit about a chokeland fader

I hope you aint over 21 saying shit like chokeland fader........

FUCK.YOU.NIGGAS

.....Is That Age Appropriate Enough?

yeah you still act like a young bitch, how bout you send your bitch over here so i can put some grown man in her life, i mean what bitch want a grown ass man that be on some elementary six grade kid shit and how about i throw in some grown man lesson for you

the only thing thats child like is watching the raiders try to compete on a weekly basis ..