Yeahhhh miss me with that rapsh!t!

[blackamerica]

Blame one person, JAYZ. He's the first

nigga to say that dumb shit. Pusha T said it too and niggaz from the South ran with it

At the end of the day, thats just a rapper showing his insecurity. He know its niggaz nicer than him so he say "I ain't really no rapper" as a disclaimer. Them the niggaz who fucked hip hop up IMO

 

[nyst8ofmin]

the problem is--- the talent to be able to paint a picture, or capture an audience, and especially rock a crowd is not that wide spread. there are way to many ppl that rap---while they can rhyme, they're not saying sh*t. its all superficial-done a million times before-trash.

and this whole 'i report the news' bullsh*t is wack. maybe if there was some unity the 'news' would be heard, but its not.

there's only a handful of actual 'artists' in the hip hop community. the rest are 'tracers'.

 

[Muhannad]

@blackgod813 Great analogy. Not every rapper's strength lies in freestylin' but you can atleast spit an unheard written. You can't spit off the top? How serious do you take your craft and why should I wanna listen to anything you release? This type of sh*t is unacceptable and needs to be called out.

Jay Z is my favorite rapper but I'm always first to admit he play a major part in this (not solely responsible) & it could be charged to his presence/influence in the game alone. The whole 'I'm not a rapper, I'm a hustler (that can rap)' was his handle since 'In My Lifetime' but the problem is along w/ every Clipse, Tip, Jeezy, etc. -- it also oversaturated the game w/ those who overlooked the 'that can rap' aspect of it as well as the vultures (some synonymous). I don't think any of the musically/lyrically inclined or talented 'dopeboy rappers' necessarily meant to shit on 'hip hop culture', it's more of a marketing tool or a way to separate themselves from those who spoke about 'their culture' from a generic stance.

The irony of the situation is some might've intended to separate themselves from 'the gimmicks' by giving their angle & it ended up becoming one in the process, which is usually the case once the vultures get ahold of something. It somewhat remind me of that Rich Boy line 'this the battlefield, fake niggas scream keep it real'; one thing I'll never forget though is when Busta Rhymes switched his whole rap demeanor to druglord over that 'Hustlin RMX' but I digress. At the end of the day though, it could be a lot worse & I definitely think Kanye outselling 50 back in '07 changed the dynamics in hip hop (as well as some other things) but if you look around, the game is a lot more diverse across the board.

I'm a Jay Z fan but that was one of the things I never liked about him. He kept stressing he was not a rapper but a hustler. Cool, but why you have been trying to get on since the late 80's? Why you jumped on every style that was hot till you found what worked for you? N*gga came out on some corny Fresh Prince sh*t with Jaz-O, tried to sound like Kane when he was hot, tried that Fu Schinkens flow and tried to sound like Biggie after he blew.

Jay Z did explain why he felt the need to emphasize why he was a hustler instead of a rapper though. He said that when he was at the club with his boys he saw rappers broke and dusty and his boys used to ask him if thát was what

he wanted to be like. I guess he couldn't relate to some of these rappers.

Jay Z might say he's not a rapper, but with his skillset and the time and effort he put in to get on you know he infact is a rapper with a genuine love for the genre. After him lesser talented dudes started saying the same, but I think they followed after Master P more than Jay Z.

 

[WORLD8712]

I'm a Jay Z fan but that was one of the things I never liked about him. He kept stressing he was not a rapper but a hustler. Cool, but why you have been trying to get on since the late 80's? Why you jumped on every style that was hot till you found what worked for you? N*gga came out on some corny Fresh Prince sh*t with Jaz-O, tried to sound like Kane when he was hot, tried that Fu Schinkens flow and tried to sound like Biggie after he blew.

Jay Z did explain why he felt the need to emphasize why he was a hustler instead of a rapper though. He said that when he was at the club with his boys he saw rappers broke and dusty and his boys used to ask him if thát was what

he wanted to be like. I guess he couldn't relate to some of these rappers.

Jay Z might say he's not a rapper, but with his skillset and the time and effort he put in to get on you know he infact is a rapper with a genuine love for the genre. After him lesser talented dudes started saying the same, but I think they followed after Master P more than Jay Z.

We on the same page but like I said, it's his way of marketing & separating himself from the competition (as you do in any business) -- no different than 'The Throne' or 'MCHG' promotion. It's obvious Jay got genuine love for 'hip hop culture' because he could've left already if it was just about the money but he also wanted to present his angle. It's like you said, he tried to get on through different avenues but eventually, he had to go the indie route w/ Dame & Biggs. Now, look at things from the perspective of somebody who been trying to get in the 'rap game' all the while it's 'rappers' imitating the 'game' you're familiar with; in my mind, it only make sense to stress the fact that 'I'm not like these vultures.' So when he dropped lines like 'selling records being you, yet you wanna be me' -- it's clear that it's a shot at the frauding going on in hip hop rather than the culture. Also, I've seen an interview where Shawty Lo said Jay was his biggest influence & favorite rapper; so I know Master P played a part too but the longevity that Jay had make him more of a factor in influencing a lot of rappers, talented or not.

Speaking of this thread, listen to the beginning & the end..

True emcee..one of the GOATs.

Classic... one of first rap albums I listened to in full.

 

[Muhannad]

I'm a Jay Z fan but that was one of the things I never liked about him. He kept stressing he was not a rapper but a hustler. Cool, but why you have been trying to get on since the late 80's? Why you jumped on every style that was hot till you found what worked for you? N*gga came out on some corny Fresh Prince sh*t with Jaz-O, tried to sound like Kane when he was hot, tried that Fu Schinkens flow and tried to sound like Biggie after he blew.

Jay Z did explain why he felt the need to emphasize why he was a hustler instead of a rapper though. He said that when he was at the club with his boys he saw rappers broke and dusty and his boys used to ask him if thát was what

he wanted to be like. I guess he couldn't relate to some of these rappers.

Jay Z might say he's not a rapper, but with his skillset and the time and effort he put in to get on you know he infact is a rapper with a genuine love for the genre. After him lesser talented dudes started saying the same, but I think they followed after Master P more than Jay Z.

We on the same page but like I said, it's his way of marketing & separating himself from the competition (as you do in any business) -- no different than 'The Throne' or 'MCHG' promotion. It's obvious Jay got genuine love for 'hip hop culture' because he could've left already if it was just about the money but he also wanted to present his angle. It's like you said, he tried to get on through different avenues but eventually, he had to go the indie route w/ Dame & Biggs. Now, look at things from the perspective of somebody who been trying to get in the 'rap game' all the while it's 'rappers' imitating the 'game' you're familiar with; in my mind, it only make sense to stress the fact that 'I'm not like these vultures.' So when he dropped lines like 'selling records being you, yet you wanna be me' -- it's clear that it's a shot at the frauding going on in hip hop rather than the culture. Also, I've seen an interview where Shawty Lo said Jay was his biggest influence & favorite rapper; so I know Master P played a part too but the longevity that Jay had make him more of a factor in influencing a lot of rappers, talented or not.

Speaking of this thread, listen to the beginning & the end..

True emcee..one of the GOATs.

Classic... one of first rap albums I listened to in full.

We're on the same page indeed. Jigga's one of the best rappers.

I said some of these "I'm not a rapper" rappers were influenced more by Master P. than Jigga, because while Jigga kept saying he wasn't a rapper you can hear he's a bonafide emcee. You don't get to that level of spitting without honing your skills. P. could spit when he wanted to but he wasn't on Jigga's level. He opened the door for those anti-hip hop "I'm not a rapper"/ "we don't do that overhere" type of rappers that relied on production, affiliations and features instead of skills.

 

[loch121]

I agree, but I hate to say niggas like Jada and Beans made that cool

I will say I think Pimp C may have been saying that feeling like NY dudes wasn't fucking w/ the south

I hate this view, but half is image and half is dudes who lucked up in the game