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Yall say his name cant be "j" esus, because j's didnt translate from back then..
BiblicalAtheist
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James = Yhowshuwa = Yhovah-saves
Just = tsaddiyq = lawful, righteous
Jerusalem = Yruwshalaim
Jacob = Ya`aqob = supplanter
Jews = Yhuwdiy
Just = tsaddiyq = lawful, righteous
Jerusalem = Yruwshalaim
Jacob = Ya`aqob = supplanter
Jews = Yhuwdiy
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The Lonious Monk
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Really, who cares. People are doing a great disservice to God if they think he is so arbitrary to quibble over silly shit like this. He's the most high being in the universe not a human, so these petty trifles are nothing to him.
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The Etymology of the Word "Jew"
In his classic Facts are Facts, Jewish historian, researcher and scholar Benjamin Freedman writes:
Jesus is referred as a so-called "Jew" for the first time in the New Testament in the 18th century. Jesus is first referred to as a so-called "Jew" in the revised 18th century editions in the English language of the 14th century first translations of the New Testament into English. The history of the origin of the word "Jew" in the English language leaves no doubt that the 18th century "Jew" is the 18th century contracted and corrupted English word for the 4th century Latin "Iudaeus" found in St. Jerome's Vulgate Edition. Of that there is no longer doubt.
The available original manuscripts from the 4th century to the 18th century accurately trace the origin and give the complete history of the word "Jew" in the English language. In these manuscripts are to be found all the many earlier English equivalents extending through the 14 centuries from the 4th to the 18th century. From the Latin "Iudaeus" to the English "Jew" these English forms included successively: "Gyu," "Giu," "Iu," "Iuu," "Iuw," "Ieuu," "Ieuy," "Iwe," "Iow," "Iewe," "Ieue," "Iue," "Ive," "Iew," and then finally the 18th century, "Jew." The many earlier English equivalents for "Jews" through the 14 centuries are "Giwis," "Giws," "Gyues," "Gywes," "Giwes," "Geus," "Iuys," "Iows," "Iouis," "Iews," and then also finally in the 18th century, "Jews."
In his classic Facts are Facts, Jewish historian, researcher and scholar Benjamin Freedman writes:
Jesus is referred as a so-called "Jew" for the first time in the New Testament in the 18th century. Jesus is first referred to as a so-called "Jew" in the revised 18th century editions in the English language of the 14th century first translations of the New Testament into English. The history of the origin of the word "Jew" in the English language leaves no doubt that the 18th century "Jew" is the 18th century contracted and corrupted English word for the 4th century Latin "Iudaeus" found in St. Jerome's Vulgate Edition. Of that there is no longer doubt.
The available original manuscripts from the 4th century to the 18th century accurately trace the origin and give the complete history of the word "Jew" in the English language. In these manuscripts are to be found all the many earlier English equivalents extending through the 14 centuries from the 4th to the 18th century. From the Latin "Iudaeus" to the English "Jew" these English forms included successively: "Gyu," "Giu," "Iu," "Iuu," "Iuw," "Ieuu," "Ieuy," "Iwe," "Iow," "Iewe," "Ieue," "Iue," "Ive," "Iew," and then finally the 18th century, "Jew." The many earlier English equivalents for "Jews" through the 14 centuries are "Giwis," "Giws," "Gyues," "Gywes," "Giwes," "Geus," "Iuys," "Iows," "Iouis," "Iews," and then also finally in the 18th century, "Jews."
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we didn't use this aplhabet at all, so however you translate it, shit is still wrong. Thats why people tend to learn hebrew & arabic. A lot of the 'holy'scrolls are loaded with poetry, poetry which is lost in the english versions. the English bible/tenach/koran are basically extremely edited and mistranslated scrolls.
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TX_Made713
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what does the j have to do with anything
i thought it was all about the lifestyle
i thought it was all about the lifestyle
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ThaChozenWun
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Jesus had no J, that's why he was a carpenter.
And BiblicalAtheist pretty much summed most of it up.
And BiblicalAtheist pretty much summed most of it up.
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Israelites
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that's what a lot of my hebrews say when it comes to the name of Jesus, they spit on the name that was given to be the highest name amongst the gentiles... gentiles/europeans don't speak hebrew, they call on Jesus when they become afflicted in their tongue.... & if we want to get techincal, there's was no Y nor an E in anicent hebrew...so where does all the Y's come from (esau, if we research we will see Esau also hates the name of Jesus & came up w/the Yashoua's & other Y sounding names)
That's why it's alwasys best to study to show ourselves approved unto the Most High, can't go wrong if we just stick to the scripts...
whenever I use Jesus name, I'm speaking on the GOD of Israel, the one who came out of the tribe of Judah, not cesar borgia aka white "jesus".... that's the other jesus that Paul warns us about.
That's why it's alwasys best to study to show ourselves approved unto the Most High, can't go wrong if we just stick to the scripts...
whenever I use Jesus name, I'm speaking on the GOD of Israel, the one who came out of the tribe of Judah, not cesar borgia aka white "jesus".... that's the other jesus that Paul warns us about.
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The Lonious Monk
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ether-i-am;1139080 said:Oh God heavenly father,
Why in hell did you make this shit so confusing!? My prayers may not have been answered because I've been praying to the wrong person! No J's no Jesus. No Y's no yashuoa.
I get the feeling you don't want none of us in heaven.
God didn't make it confusing. People did. I sincerely believe God does not give a fuck about this debate. If you live the way you're supposed to and have the kinda faith you're supposed to, you'll be fine. SMH @ people who think that God would be mad at people for unknowingly using wrong names even though the people that use those names are just and follow his wishes.
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Israelites
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The Lonious Monk;1139561 said:God didn't make it confusing. People did. I sincerely believe God does not give a fuck about this debate. If you live the way you're supposed to and have the kinda faith you're supposed to, you'll be fine. SMH @ people who think that God would be mad at people for unknowingly using wrong names even though the people that use those names are just and follow his wishes.
you right, also we can use the example of the gentile cornelius the Italian coming into the fold (he didn't speak hebrew) when he was praying to the Most High, he didn't know the true GOD of Israel but yet the LORD still knew he was praying to HIM so in return he sent an Israelite to teach him about the Most High...
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KTULU IS BACK
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I swear, Pupu is retarded.
He's like 40 years old and he's still stupid.
He's like 40 years old and he's still stupid.
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theillestrator
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check youtube, it's pretty much common knowledge nowadays that jesus is mexican (at least he is in his present form) and we all know how to pronounce his name in spanish
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PUPU_IZ_DRO;1137046 said:To now, or something of that nature..(the letter "j" wasnt created, or whateva b.s. Yall say)
so what about the other "j" words in the bible?
James, just, jerusalem, jacob, jews...etc... So what are the real meaning/sayings of these words?
Ya'cov (the real name of the brother of yeshua), Tsadok, Yerushalyim, Ya'cov, Yehudiim
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