Ya'll Ain't Bout that LYFE

[no b.s]

no doubt im just hoping that it really just didn't register to everybody cause if that aint the case then its worse than i thought.peace

 

[damobb2deep]

i feel like this... they was kids... now if they was jus tryna jump my kids and it was alot of em shyt im fightin wit right along wit my kids..... im only bringin out da heater unless those kids takin it there

 

[Lincoln]

From what I gathered from reading, dude didn't tell them to come over, they were already on their way, and he just told them to meet up in the driveway.

Not saying he should've done what he did,

but he hella put those kids in check, and if they weren't rolling around doing hoodrat shit with their friends, it would've never happened in the first place.

an unfortunate situation, but at least some of them survived to learn a lesson about humility.

 

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[jay83]

They should have never opened up facebook to highschool kids anyway.

And I read where a teacher was stabbed by a kid because he took the phone away.

Some kids just act out for attention but some of these kids are way past ignorant and will try you and dont GAF.

 

[jay83]

the gene pool has been cleansed of a few future recidivist...

and myspace rappers. lol.

nah but seriously, i really hate to see young kids die over this. Who knows maybe they could have turned their lives around.

I remember one time I heard this girl say" My Momma better respect me. To get respect you need to give respect. Im the baddest bitch at this school. I do what the fuck i want."

Never i thought i would see the day when i hear kids sayin their parents "better respect them".

I say we give Jim Brown and Charles Bronson a call to fix this youth problem. lol

[video=youtube;7zy2jJ5-7pM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zy2jJ5-7pM[/video]

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[edwardnigma]

From what I gathered from reading, dude didn't tell them to come over, they were already on their way, and he just told them to meet up in the driveway.

Not saying he should've done what he did,

but he hella put those kids in check, and if they weren't rolling around doing hoodrat shit with their friends, it would've never happened in the first place.

an unfortunate situation, but at least some of them survived to learn a lesson about humility.

What you gathered and read was not compreheded well.

The man admitted to luring the kids over to what they thought would be a fistfight.

When they showed up, he unloaded. They weren't armed.

You don't learn humility by getting by being 14 and invitied to a fist fight only to be shot and killed by the kids parents.

The most you can learn from this is revenge ia a best dish served cold.

Good thing he ain't kill none of my lil homies, that wouldnt end up well.

Hey noBs sory to breakit to you ,but something really iswrong with these cats. They really are fuckied in the head in here homie,, these fuckers are sickos and they can't read.

They're just trying to overlook the fact, the kids were un armed and lured to a fist fight by a 30 year old.

Some people like to see other people suffer and find it funny. Everybody ain't a good person. Notice how they will justify anything, even if it means overlooking the truth.

And its Ironic you say a few recidivist when the Stepfather is the biggest recidivist.

He has a long history of violence, he admitted to the crime then asked them not to tell the mother which shows he is not sane.....

I learned my lesson though, I can see some of you will try to justify anything to seem intelligent.

Its all an ego show off thing. Ok, I can dig it.

Like I said before, don't think it's ok to kill peoples kids. You fuck aroud get your whole household deleted.

Good to know how people really think.

 

[edwardnigma]

Same people who say the 30 year old did the right thing by killing them would also say

he'd be wrong for having sex with a 16 year old girl, cause he's too old

He ain't to old to kill them but he is too old to have sex with a girl that age,

Western Civilization is filled with some of the most ridiculous people on earth,

You people are spiritually dead and have no moral foundation.

Wake the fuck up. You know what I need to stop saying that. Some of you people are just fucked up and ain't no motherfuckin changing you.

Either way, Sane men dont come out shoot kids, Sane men ain't scared of no punk ass 13 year old who looks like Drake. God Bless the dead, I'm just proving a point.

I started this off by saying he was probably a war vet.....I was wrong, but he does have a history of violence.

And snce I am sane, that was something that was easy to notice, You invited my kid over to a fair one, then you even try to shoot em. Come for me directly after, cause once I get the new my kids been shot,Lights Out its a wrap for you.

Unless its a kid, because every adult knows....If they are sane......Kids are not always but alot of times, stupid.

They are impressionable, gullible......and you telling me you can;t speak to a kid?

Man I can just look at a kid a certain way and he'll act right.

Not to mention these kids werent even armed.

 

[Knives Amilli]

Pops was a dumbass. Took it way further than what it was.

As a father (blood or not) your duty is not only to protect yours, but to act as the rational guiding force to yours. All duke had to do was stand outside with the kids, keep the burner concealed, tell someone to stay by the phone to call the authorities if necessary, and try to neutralize the fight. At most he woulda really had to do was either flash the piece or lick a shot in the air. But to say fuck it and wet those punk ass kids up was overkill.

The best offense is a good defense. His primary concern shoulda been stopping any sort of fight from happening in the first place. Older heads should know that violence should be a last resort.

 

[edwardnigma]

Pops was a dumbass. Took it way further than what it was.

As a father (blood or not) your duty is not only to protect yours, but to act as the rational guiding force to yours. All duke had to do was stand outside with the kids, keep the burner concealed, tell someone to stay by the phone to call the authorities if necessary, and try to neutralize the fight. At most he woulda really had to do was either flash the piece or lick a shot in the air. But to say fuck it and wet those punk ass kids up was overkill.

The best offense is a good defense. His primary concern shoulda been stopping any sort of fight from happening in the first place. Older heads should know that violence should be a last resort.

God Just spoke motherfuckers, listen up. That was nothing but truth. I know ya'll dont like me, so take it from someone else out the eher.

 

[DillaDeaf]

Ok I read the articles posted int his thread on the topic...a couple of things

1. They drove around to the BACK of the house after pulling out the driveway and seeing the stepfather. The first article was a lil misleading cause I thought he shot them in the driveway.

2. Pertains to #1---why would they drive around to the back of the house.

3. SEVEN kids? I don't know about ya'll but in Mississippi (especially Mississippi Delta, Memphis or Detroit --where I'm originally from) nothing will end well for those 3 boys.

4. Due to today's climate since the 80s/90s, you best believe one of them frail kids are packing. Nobody shoots the fair one, only way it happens if the OGs or older brother and sisters of the fighting parties call for the fair right before the fight.

5. Going to someone house/crib to start drama and mess.....if you gonna to run up a crib, you best believe shit from the fryin pan is gonna be hotter than a motherfucker. If you can't stand the heat get out the kitchen. It's a basic premise of war for years....and even Sun Tzu is not that foolhardy to subscribe just running up to your enemy doorstep.

 

[huey]

Ok I read the articles posted int his thread on the topic...a couple of things

1. They drove around to the BACK of the house after pulling out the driveway and seeing the stepfather. The first article was a lil misleading cause I thought he shot them in the driveway.

2. Pertains to #1---why would they drive around to the back of the house.

3. SEVEN kids? I don't know about ya'll but in Mississippi (especially Mississippi Delta, Memphis or Detroit --where I'm originally from) nothing will end well for those 3 boys.

4. Due to today's climate since the 80s/90s, you best believe one of them frail kids are packing. Nobody shoots the fair one, only way it happens if the OGs or older brother and sisters of the fighting parties call for the fair right before the fight.

5. Going to someone house/crib to start drama and mess.....if you gonna to run up a crib, you best believe shit from the fryin pan is gonna be hotter than a motherfucker. If you can't stand the heat get out the kitchen. It's a basic premise of war for years....and even Sun Tzu is not that foolhardy to subscribe just running up to your enemy doorstep.

thats what the fuck im saying.

 

[Stew]

I had a good friend die from going to the enemy's house. Worst night of my life. smmfh

RIP CJ

 

[Just2C]

Hold up! They got 7 people in a Corolla? Thats amazing in itself.

 

[Reina B]

Quarrel in school ends with Phila. teens shot dead in car

Philadelphia Inquirer via Philly.com ^ | Thu, Jan. 12, 2012 | Allison Steele

Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:02:25 PM by South Hawthorne

Seven teenage boys were packed into the Toyota Corolla, sitting on top of each other, when the car pulled over on the 1500 block of East Luzerne Street in Juniata Park.

It was about 10:30 Tuesday night, and the youths were looking for a fight, police said.

It had started in school with an argument between some of the friends in the car and three teenage brothers, spilled onto Facebook with threats, and escalated into plans to settle the matter with a physical battle.

As the teens waited in the car, a man in a gray hoodie came out of a house and approached them. Spooked, they drove to the back of the house - but moments later, police said, the same man emerged from the back door and ran up to the passenger side.

He fired from 10 to 12 shots into the car at point-blank range.

Joshua Soto, 14, of North Philadelphia, and Javier Orlandi, 16, of Kensington, were pronounced dead within a half-hour. Dante Lugo, 14, died Wednesday night at St. Christopher's Hospital for Children. The 16-year-old driver was hit in the neck and was listed in stable condition at St. Christopher's.

Police on Wednesday identified the alleged shooter as Axel Barreto, the 30-year-old stepfather of the three brothers, and announced a warrant for his arrest. Barreto was taken into custody about 9 p.m. at the Knights Inn in Bensalem, said Chief Deputy U.S. Marshal John Patrignani.

Barreto, who was with a woman, was not armed and did not resist arrest by Philadelphia police and members of the U.S. Marshals Service Fugitive Task Force, Patrignani said.

Earlier in the day, police described Barreto as "armed and extremely dangerous."

"There very easily could have been seven dead teenagers in that car," Philadelphia Capt. James Clark said. "He just randomly fired."

A search of the car turned up no weapons, Clark said.

Police do not know what sparked the initial argument, which Clark said started between two groups from different neighborhoods.

Asked whether police were concerned that friends of the victims might retaliate, Clark said police would tell the teenagers' schools of the situation and brief officers in their neighborhoods.

Wednesday afternoon, Mayor Nutter visited the schools two of the teenagers attended. At the Kensington Culinary Arts School, where Orlandi was a student until he recently dropped out, Nutter spoke to a group of 75 to 100 students for about five minutes.

The mayor spoke "from the heart," spokesman Mark McDonald said, urging the youths to not retaliate and to focus on their futures.

Next, Nutter stopped by Mariana Bracetti Academy, a charter middle school where one of the non-injured teenagers in the car is a student.

"You are in a great school, in a loving environment, with people who really care about you," Nutter told the students. "Our hearts are heavy about what happened, but we are very concerned about you. Don't let this disrupt what you are about. You need to graduate from the eighth grade, go to high school and on to college.

"Stay in school. Stay positive. Stay focused," the mayor said. "You're doing great work. We just came here to say that we love you and care about you."

McDonald said the mayor felt the need to address the students and "make the case for their future."

"We very seriously hope that they can avoid retaliation or being involved with Facebook fights and the like," McDonald said.

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[Reina B]

Has anybody noted the fact that the mother has not come out and said anything at all?

Being that there were no weapons found in the Corolla, I beleive the true intentions of the teens was to fight. Yes they out numbered the brothers but it was all hands and no weapons involved.

What are seven, 14-16 year olds, doing joy riding at 10:30pm on a school night? Where are the parents in all of this? Gone are the days of parents communicating with their children and the parents of their childrens friends to know what's going in there childrens lives. The fucking internets are raising this generation.

One of the major problems with this situation is that you have a 30 year old step-father to three teenaged sons. Assuming that the step kids are between the ages of 14-16. There's just a small 14-16 year age difference between the adult and the children. Mom dukes probably had em young and step dad is young too. No guidance.

The question of retaliation comes into play? All of a sudden the police want to breif officers and the school!!! For real....if that shit started in school I guarentee that some of the officials in school already knew but blew it off.

But now you also have three brothers with no man protecting them. So who's to say that one of the family members or friends of the seven in the car aren't willing to retaliate?

 

[Reina B]

HARRISBURG, DAUPHIN COUNTY— Governor Tom Corbett has signed an expansion of the so called "Castle Doctrine" into law. The law widens an individuals right to use deadly force in self-defense in Pennsylvania. The Governor signed the bill during a private ceremony in his office at the State Capitol. The State Senate passed the measure last week.

Under the new law an individual has the right to use a gun or other deadly force in self-defense in situations outside a person's home or business.

Last year, former Governor Ed Rendell vetoed the same bill just before leaving office. The measure was reintroduced in a GOP dominated State House and Senate.

Under the old law, the use of deadly force is not justifiable if the person can safely retreat, except when the threat is made inside his or her home or business. The legislation also limits certain civil liability in some cases for people who act within the guidelines.

The step-father may or may not get off easy

 

[Lincoln]

What you gathered and read was not compreheded well.

The man admitted to luring the kids over to what they thought would be a fistfight.

When they showed up, he unloaded. They weren't armed.

You don't learn humility by getting by being 14 and invitied to a fist fight only to be shot and killed by the kids parents.

The most you can learn from this is revenge ia a best dish served cold.

Good thing he ain't kill none of my lil homies, that wouldnt end up well.

I honestly wasn't paying too much attention to what I read, but that doesn't really have any effect on my point.

I'm not condoning what the guy did. It was wrong, stupid, and I wouldn't have done the same

But shit ain't all black and white, and the kids aren't completely innocent either.

These kids packed a car full of people and WENT to the trouble. It didn't come to them, and it clearly wasn't going to be a fair fight.

The kids went barking up the wrong tree. They went looking for trouble, and they found it. It sucks that they died, especially over something so small,

but if they had stayed home, this wouldn't have happened.

The best offense is a good defense. His primary concern shoulda been stopping any sort of fight from happening in the first place. Older heads should know that violence should be a last resort.

Best post so far.

 

[edwardnigma]

I honestly wasn't paying too much attention to what I read, but that doesn't really have any effect on my point.

I'm not condoning what the guy did. It was wrong, stupid, and I wouldn't have done the same

But shit ain't all black and white, and the kids aren't completely innocent either.

These kids packed a car full of people and WENT to the trouble. It didn't come to them, and it clearly wasn't going to be a fair fight.

The kids went barking up the wrong tree. They went looking for trouble, and they found it. It sucks that they died, especially over something so small,

but if they had stayed home, this wouldn't have happened.

Best post so far.

Nobody is innocent, what I'm trying to point out is the 30 year old is not sane.

Thats why I thought he was a war vet.

The police did reveal he had a long history of violence.

How do the police know this? Obviously the motherfucker been arrested for a multiplicity of violent crime....

What do troops do? Basically violent Crimes right?

You have to be able to call it for what it is. See Kay, no hyperbole, lets see who gets it.

Also I've been in many fights and situations like this growing up. If you handle the situation correctly, even if a fight did happen, with boys that age especially unarmed, you can even have them fight, settle their difference and shake hands, even if ya son lose. In New York we as teenagers would square up in stair cases and fight, i've mediated fights, and this situation was handled completely incorrectly. No need for angel or innocence, the man was obviously in fucking sane.

The sanest post on how to handle the situation I quoted from another person on page 11. "knives aMilli"

Ya see, kids will listen to an adult who says come here and fight and i'll make sure it goes fair....To adults you'll say oh but suntzu said this and that about war and america goes to war and does this and bla bla bla......forgetting these are simply children in mens clothing. They dont know about all that stuff.Bro they sit down from 7 to 2:45 listening to several adults 27- 40 and older telling them to sit, stand, read, line up, every day while their 30 deep male and female and they dont even want to do it but they do it.....you know why?

Cause they are CHILDREN!!! AND CHILDREN WILL LISTEN! They get scared of being in trouble! But YOU as the ADULT as the MAN can't be scared.

Dont lose your sense and humanity. NO need of talk of innocence, just common sense. Kids trust adults because kids are unaware that some people are just fucked up. One in a few kids know that. At 14 kids are still getting molested by Vaticans and preachers...

And you mean to tell me you scared of unarmed 14 year old kids .....damn

Thats whats really annoying me, is people coming in defendin someone who is insane.

And look at the posts, everyone who defends the Pyscho is scared

One girl "oh they from the hood, so they got dealt wit like hood people"....w.e that means

another guy on here "oh 14 year olds are big nowadays I know one 6'1"......and your courage is as yellow as the lines in street.

I call that being a coward, only cowards kill unarmed children. Cowards and Psycho's. U defend it, then you just a sad case. Flesh and bone with no soul to be found.

 

[edwardnigma]

If you look at the kids, they weren't gangsters, there will be no retalliation.

I still think this motherfucker was a war vet. They said he had a long rap sheet and a history of violence, but i dont believe it. I think he's one of them crazy war vets re creating his Iraqi or Afghan ambushes, just couldnt wait to find an excuse to kill again.

Theres people like that on here and I can tell from what they post.Some people get an enjoyment from watchin people suffer. Keep your eyes open more shit like this will Happen as more troops come home and they gone dress it up.

No sane man is gonna kill a whole bunch of kids for His girlfriends children. Hes only 30...so how long he been the step father? He couldnt have even been with her that long, she got 3 highschool kids and none of them niggas is for the Step Father.So its safe to say she is probably older then him (I ain't no fool)

This guy was fucking insane....

Think , Use your Brain.... She has 3 Highschool Kids so they're about 14 16 and maybe 17 or like 14 15 and 17, or 15 16 and 18. For all of them to be in Highschool, the oldest and the youngest need can not be more then 4 years apart. (somebody fix the math but do it)

That make the mom atleast 36-45 to give her enough time to actually have them and a relationship with one man or another.

Which reasonably only gives this guy abour 6-8 years he could have had the time to be with the said family after her last relationship to whomever the oldest sons father was.

So you mean to tell me he got so close to his Step Kids in in 6-8 years that he would kill for them....Meanwhile the boys either have one FATHER who was with the MOTHER until her Third son. Or the kIds have different Fathers.

I'm telling You, You people are defending a Psycho. Those kids know who they father is, and I bet theres atleast 2 different dads in their life. I bet they mother ain't shit either. She got a Psycho in the house.

This shows how negligent you are as people. You do not take time to fully anaylse situations and you take everythng at face and fall for foolish shit.