would mlk jr. been better served if he would of had blacks....

[caddo man]

Smh you niggas are against this but stay saying that we should be more like the Jews or Asians and keep our resources within the community. Some of you just need to face the fact that you crave white acceptance and validation

There is a underline reason why Jews and Asians still have a cohesive community. Same as the East Indians and the Mexicans. They all have a place they can call their own. African Americans can call Africa home but we dont have skin in the game. I dont have a family member over there. I dont understand the intricate relationship between tribes.

When Jews, Asians, Indians, or whomever else migrate here, what is the first thing they do? They go to their community. Why? Because they are comfortable. The food language and family makes them feel comfortable. Even fellow Africans do it.

Americans do the same thing when we move to other countries. There are American neighborhoods in every large European city. What usually happen is eventually some people dont want to be apart of the ethic bubble that has formed. They move out into society and conform.


So we need to stop comparing us to communities that we dont share anything with. Our struggle is unique. When shit gets hard for any other ethic group outside of Natives. They can pack they shit up and roll back to the homeland and hang with distant family. We don't have that luxury.

 

[5th Letter]

Smh you niggas are against this but stay saying that we should be more like the Jews or Asians and keep our resources within the community. Some of you just need to face the fact that you crave white acceptance and validation

There is a underline reason why Jews and Asians still have a cohesive community. Same as the East Indians and the Mexicans. They all have a place they can call their own. African Americans can call Africa home but we dont have skin in the game. I dont have a family member over there. I dont understand the intricate relationship between tribes.

When Jews, Asians, Indians, or whomever else migrate here, what is the first thing they do? They go to their community. Why? Because they are comfortable. The food language and family makes them feel comfortable. Even fellow Africans do it.

Americans do the same thing when we move to other countries. There are American neighborhoods in every large European city. What usually happen is eventually some people dont want to be apart of the ethic bubble that has formed. They move out into society and conform.


So we need to stop comparing us to communities that we dont share anything with. Our struggle is unique. When shit gets hard for any other ethic group outside of Natives. They can pack they shit up and roll back to the homeland and hang with distant family. We don't have that luxury.

There's blacks that come from all walks of life. And all those homelands are already subjugated by white supremacy in some way so they don't have the power to help even if they wanted to.

 

[caddo man]

Smh you niggas are against this but stay saying that we should be more like the Jews or Asians and keep our resources within the community. Some of you just need to face the fact that you crave white acceptance and validation

There is a underline reason why Jews and Asians still have a cohesive community. Same as the East Indians and the Mexicans. They all have a place they can call their own. African Americans can call Africa home but we dont have skin in the game. I dont have a family member over there. I dont understand the intricate relationship between tribes.

When Jews, Asians, Indians, or whomever else migrate here, what is the first thing they do? They go to their community. Why? Because they are comfortable. The food language and family makes them feel comfortable. Even fellow Africans do it.

Americans do the same thing when we move to other countries. There are American neighborhoods in every large European city. What usually happen is eventually some people dont want to be apart of the ethic bubble that has formed. They move out into society and conform.


So we need to stop comparing us to communities that we dont share anything with. Our struggle is unique. When shit gets hard for any other ethic group outside of Natives. They can pack they shit up and roll back to the homeland and hang with distant family. We don't have that luxury.

There's blacks that come from all walks of life. And all those homelands are already subjugated by white supremacy in some way so they don't have the power to help even if they wanted to.

But they can get the hell out of dodge and be around family and friends. If African Americans leave we going to stay around strangers. Feel me.

 

[5th Letter]

Smh you niggas are against this but stay saying that we should be more like the Jews or Asians and keep our resources within the community. Some of you just need to face the fact that you crave white acceptance and validation

There is a underline reason why Jews and Asians still have a cohesive community. Same as the East Indians and the Mexicans. They all have a place they can call their own. African Americans can call Africa home but we dont have skin in the game. I dont have a family member over there. I dont understand the intricate relationship between tribes.

When Jews, Asians, Indians, or whomever else migrate here, what is the first thing they do? They go to their community. Why? Because they are comfortable. The food language and family makes them feel comfortable. Even fellow Africans do it.

Americans do the same thing when we move to other countries. There are American neighborhoods in every large European city. What usually happen is eventually some people dont want to be apart of the ethic bubble that has formed. They move out into society and conform.


So we need to stop comparing us to communities that we dont share anything with. Our struggle is unique. When shit gets hard for any other ethic group outside of Natives. They can pack they shit up and roll back to the homeland and hang with distant family. We don't have that luxury.

There's blacks that come from all walks of life. And all those homelands are already subjugated by white supremacy in some way so they don't have the power to help even if they wanted to.

But they can get the hell out of dodge and be around family and friends. If African Americans leave we going to stay around strangers. Feel me.

I get that. But if these race soldiers start targeting Asians they have the firepower to go to war with the US over that shit. That's a huge factor.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Nah.

If we accepted the legal separation of races in this country we would basically be giving up on the idea of a coexistence and just creating the potential for even more Balkanization in the future.

The only way to fight racism is through familiarity. 90% of white racists ive met just have never spent any significant with minorities...no black friends, no black lovers, no black relatives, no black pastors, etc.



When you don't spent anytime with other races and see them as people it's easy to write them off as "the other" and think you got nothing in common with them.

Y is the onus on negros to do all of that.

Native Americans and negros have proven they dont have to be familiar with a different race to be friendly with em.

Whites are the only ones warlike from the get go and it's not like theyre stupid about it.

They were smart enough to get resources from the native americans b4 they turned on em.

Full time some of yall accept that they're just fuckin savages.

Native Americans are segregated but equal and their communities have high crime , alcohol abuse problems, unreported rape issues,low employment , poor health and education options, so this rosey picture that you guys paint about how great it would be to segregated but equal needs better clarification.

No nigga you need a better perspective. Native Americans are in the situation that they are in because, they have not built on their infrastructure and have not maintained their culture. Which, is difficult to do when your culture was basically destroyed and outside business doesn't do business save for tourism and casinos.

Whites are thriving because, EVERY other race is willing to flock to their communities pay taxes and spend money in their establishments. People are discouraged from going to Black neighborhoods to do business sighting crime and other nonsense which is neatly wrapped in white supremacy.

My perspective is very fine nigga, a situation whereby you seclude or are secluded as a community from the rest of the country does not allow for development and new ideas , everything because stagnant. Im not saying white people arent historically a problem but also there is a problem with that model within the Native American community to thrive.

Segregation isn't seclusion. The Black community segregating isn't removing ourselves from the rest of country. It's Blacks practicing segregation they way every other race in America does which is, controlling our economics, education, healthcare, and other vital areas that effect our community as a whole.

Yall niggas arguing to continue hanging out with your polar bear friends, or scared some white folks are going to burn down our communities isn't helpful at all.

When the fact remains we can have control of our communities and still do business, socialize, plan, progress etc along side other races. We just keep opting to build and maintain communities that are not ours only to watch ours fall apart.

 

[Kwan Dai]

This is a tired debate.

Segregation can never, did never and will never work.

This shit is fantasy drummed up by ignorant mufuckas who weren't born at the time and didn't have to live in that world.

If you can't see the inherent idiocy of being pro-segregation you lost to the world.

You are a goddamn lie. There are communities right now that never ever have to deal with Blacks if they choose not to.

In addition to that there are schools that are 98-100% one race. There are other examples as well. You are just playing silly.

Segregating is about control. Even when our country was fully segregated whites did business with Blacks and vice versa.

Segregation works fine. What doesn't work is RACISM and WHITE SUPREMACY. Neither of which has jack shit to do with a race of people being in control of vital resources or the culture norms that are vital to their communities.

 

[ThaNubianGod]

Collectively we have over $1 trillion in wealth now, and would rank Top 10 in GDP if we were our own country. We have more young minds getting degrees, and do better than we have ever done. If anything, if people focussed on the black family like MLK preached then much more could be accomplished. I don't even know what type of "separate but equal" nonsense people envision. Not hard to just support your own people with $%$, but we don't do that, we still give it over to other groups freely.

People can hate on Jewish or Asian communities, but they've been doing a financial version of "separate but equal" for decades. No one is stopping us...except us.

 

[Kwan Dai]

When I see these threads all I can think about is how bad people's lives must suck if they find comfort in fantasies about the good old days of segregation.

If your life ain't shit in 2017 your life probably wouldn't have been shit during jim crow either. I don't think it's fair to blame integration for your personal issues.

If, you can't envision yourself living on Auburn Ave. in Atl. Harlem, NY or Black Wall Street you are an outright coon. Who wouldn't want to live next door or up the street from some of the most influential\talented people our people have ever produced?

Stop confusing White Supremacy and Racism with segregation. Whites segregate because, they don't like Blacks. Blacks segregating is purely about building infrastructure, political and economic power. We can do these things while intermingling, socializing, and for some of yall having all the pink toes your heart desires. This has nothing to do with personal feelings.

 

[jono]

This is a tired debate.

Segregation can never, did never and will never work.

This shit is fantasy drummed up by ignorant mufuckas who weren't born at the time and didn't have to live in that world.

If you can't see the inherent idiocy of being pro-segregation you lost to the world.

You are a goddamn lie. There are communities right now that never ever have to deal with Blacks if they choose not to.

In addition to that there are schools that are 98-100% one race. There are other examples as well. You are just playing silly.

Segregating is about control. Even when our country was fully segregated whites did business with Blacks and vice versa.

Segregation works fine. What doesn't work is RACISM and WHITE SUPREMACY. Neither of which has jack shit to do with a race of people being in control of vital resources or the culture norms that are vital to their communities.

Considering whites are like 80% of the population and blacks are 13% that makes sense.

And your argument is then immediately contradicted by saying segregation is fine but white supremacy isn't without understanding one created the other.

Go sit in the corner

 

[Kwan Dai]

This is a tired debate.

Segregation can never, did never and will never work.

This shit is fantasy drummed up by ignorant mufuckas who weren't born at the time and didn't have to live in that world.

If you can't see the inherent idiocy of being pro-segregation you lost to the world.

You are a goddamn lie. There are communities right now that never ever have to deal with Blacks if they choose not to.

In addition to that there are schools that are 98-100% one race. There are other examples as well. You are just playing silly.

Segregating is about control. Even when our country was fully segregated whites did business with Blacks and vice versa.

Segregation works fine. What doesn't work is RACISM and WHITE SUPREMACY. Neither of which has jack shit to do with a race of people being in control of vital resources or the culture norms that are vital to their communities.

Considering whites are like 80% of the population and blacks are 13% that makes sense.

And your argument is then immediately contradicted by saying segregation is fine but white supremacy isn't without understanding one created the other.

Go sit in the corner

People naturally segregate based on language and culture. Which, is totally fine because, there's no premise of supremacy. People can then share their experiences with one another should they choose. Segregation based on racial supremacy, is unnatural. White Supremacy didn't create segregation. STFU when grown folks talking.

 

[NoCompetition]

Meh the usual suspects. I wonder what some of these "pro segregation" proponents who long for the days when blacks were "in their place" so much (nonsensically so as can be seen here its all feelings interestingly enough) look behind the screens...I wonder haha. Anyway yeah gon with that no sensible argument has been made because one doesnt exist. Why limit yourself? Have fun but thats you dont worry bout over here go do your thing nobody wanna hear you whine though about the results.

 

[CapitalB]

fighting for separate but equal than we want to be the same?

it seems like if we would of fought for separate but equal it would of probably served the black community better because we would still have the sense of self and whites wouldnt have to worry about us fuckin up all things white.

so ur basically askin if Martin was Malcolm??!

 

[jono]

This is a tired debate.

Segregation can never, did never and will never work.

This shit is fantasy drummed up by ignorant mufuckas who weren't born at the time and didn't have to live in that world.

If you can't see the inherent idiocy of being pro-segregation you lost to the world.

You are a goddamn lie. There are communities right now that never ever have to deal with Blacks if they choose not to.

In addition to that there are schools that are 98-100% one race. There are other examples as well. You are just playing silly.

Segregating is about control. Even when our country was fully segregated whites did business with Blacks and vice versa.

Segregation works fine. What doesn't work is RACISM and WHITE SUPREMACY. Neither of which has jack shit to do with a race of people being in control of vital resources or the culture norms that are vital to their communities.

Considering whites are like 80% of the population and blacks are 13% that makes sense.

And your argument is then immediately contradicted by saying segregation is fine but white supremacy isn't without understanding one created the other.

Go sit in the corner

People naturally segregate based on language and culture. Which, is totally fine because, there's no premise of supremacy. People can then share their experiences with one another should they choose. Segregation based on racial supremacy, is unnatural. White Supremacy didn't create segregation. STFU when grown folks talking.

We ain't talking about that. Stop trying to make the shit you crusading for the same as tribes having land.

Nigga I ain't stupid.

 

[blackrain]

When I see these threads all I can think about is how bad people's lives must suck if they find comfort in fantasies about the good old days of segregation.

If your life ain't shit in 2017 your life probably wouldn't have been shit during jim crow either. I don't think it's fair to blame integration for your personal issues.

Nobody said that segregation were "the good old days" in here.

The way some folks talk about it it's as if once certain things were integrated everything went downhill...as if shit was speeding uphill before

 

[Kwan Dai]

This is a tired debate.

Segregation can never, did never and will never work.

This shit is fantasy drummed up by ignorant mufuckas who weren't born at the time and didn't have to live in that world.

If you can't see the inherent idiocy of being pro-segregation you lost to the world.

You are a goddamn lie. There are communities right now that never ever have to deal with Blacks if they choose not to.

In addition to that there are schools that are 98-100% one race. There are other examples as well. You are just playing silly.

Segregating is about control. Even when our country was fully segregated whites did business with Blacks and vice versa.

Segregation works fine. What doesn't work is RACISM and WHITE SUPREMACY. Neither of which has jack shit to do with a race of people being in control of vital resources or the culture norms that are vital to their communities.

Considering whites are like 80% of the population and blacks are 13% that makes sense.

And your argument is then immediately contradicted by saying segregation is fine but white supremacy isn't without understanding one created the other.

Go sit in the corner

People naturally segregate based on language and culture. Which, is totally fine because, there's no premise of supremacy. People can then share their experiences with one another should they choose. Segregation based on racial supremacy, is unnatural. White Supremacy didn't create segregation. STFU when grown folks talking.

We ain't talking about that. Stop trying to make the shit you crusading for the same as tribes having land.

Nigga I ain't stupid.

I have stated exactly what I am talking about. Culture and language is surely a part of that package. But I know what your coon ass is talking about. Fucking white chicks, skate boarding and wearing skinny jeans. FOH. Which, your lil scared ass could still do if blacks were in control of their neighborhoods economics, politics, education and infrastructure. Same as Whites, Asians, and Jews are.

 

[Kwan Dai]

When I see these threads all I can think about is how bad people's lives must suck if they find comfort in fantasies about the good old days of segregation.

If your life ain't shit in 2017 your life probably wouldn't have been shit during jim crow either. I don't think it's fair to blame integration for your personal issues.

Nobody said that segregation were "the good old days" in here.

The way some folks talk about it it's as if once certain things were integrated everything went downhill...as if shit was speeding uphill before

There's certainly a case on both sides. But I don't think anyone has said, things are just totally fucked up because of integration. I think we can clearly see that whites made out much better off. Particularly in the business sector.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for MLK, while I am not 100% for his methods. I am 100% for his sacrifice and courage to at least TRY and do something for his race that was truly suffering.

 

[kzzl]

What is it we have now with integration that we would lose with segregation?

 

[jono]

This is a tired debate.

Segregation can never, did never and will never work.

This shit is fantasy drummed up by ignorant mufuckas who weren't born at the time and didn't have to live in that world.

If you can't see the inherent idiocy of being pro-segregation you lost to the world.

You are a goddamn lie. There are communities right now that never ever have to deal with Blacks if they choose not to.

In addition to that there are schools that are 98-100% one race. There are other examples as well. You are just playing silly.

Segregating is about control. Even when our country was fully segregated whites did business with Blacks and vice versa.

Segregation works fine. What doesn't work is RACISM and WHITE SUPREMACY. Neither of which has jack shit to do with a race of people being in control of vital resources or the culture norms that are vital to their communities.

Considering whites are like 80% of the population and blacks are 13% that makes sense.

And your argument is then immediately contradicted by saying segregation is fine but white supremacy isn't without understanding one created the other.

Go sit in the corner

People naturally segregate based on language and culture. Which, is totally fine because, there's no premise of supremacy. People can then share their experiences with one another should they choose. Segregation based on racial supremacy, is unnatural. White Supremacy didn't create segregation. STFU when grown folks talking.

We ain't talking about that. Stop trying to make the shit you crusading for the same as tribes having land.

Nigga I ain't stupid.

I have stated exactly what I am talking about. Culture and language is surely a part of that package. But I know what your coon ass is talking about. Fucking white chicks, skate boarding and wearing skinny jeans. FOH. Which, your lil scared ass could still do if blacks were in control of their neighborhoods economics, politics, education and infrastructure. Same as Whites, Asians, and Jews are.

what the fuck you're going on about?

There aren't enough Asians to control a damn thing in US. They're outnumbed heavily EVERYWHERE even a place that has "a lot" only has like a 2% Asian population and even among that 2% its split up between different nationalities.

There's cities in the USA RIGHT NOW that are like 80-90% black like Baltimore and Detroit (where I live) and they are poor as shit.

Huddling niggas like cattle into one place don't mean shit. Stop trying to act like it does.

Stop using fallacious reasoning and false equivalency. This whole argument is stupid as fuck.

Take your dumb ass to Ghana or something then and shut the fuck up

 

[NoCompetition]

What is it we have now with integration that we would lose with segregation?

It depends on who "we" are.

For Black people lets take it back before civil rights legislation to legalized segregation When "separate but "equal'" was the policy and name a few things that stick out

Lackof school choice-i.e. forced into subpar schools with subpar resources.

Lack of choice where to live-no way to spin this as better than having choice

Police may not come when needed

Fire and medical also

denied access to jobs legally based on color-ya know...denied the right to make...money...what about any of this is hard to get?

Denied access to business opportunities

Cant go in certain places-nobody wants to be treated like that smh.

I could go on and on but...its a moot point at this point. This discussion is useless and had its time decades ago. All the "segregationists" go do it you dont need the government. But youll find it impossible to live your bizarre fantasy if you live in modern America. And dont expect people to follow you...wherever you are going

A lot of this depends on which "side" you identify on.

 

[kzzl]

All the examples you give are problems we're facing now with integration. We have black professionals in every facet of life, so whatever doors close we can reopen ourselves. Also, I doubt segregation in 2017 would be the same as it was in earlier days. What advancements we have made in society could make a huge difference.

Ivee spent my whole life in segregation, an unspoken segregation. People interact with each other for business, school, and etc. If they have too, but at the end of the day we all got our sides of town.

It's not as far fetched as some make it out to be and integration is proving too ridiculous to simply dismiss the idea.