would mlk jr. been better served if he would of had blacks....

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you do realize the civil rights movement wasnt the brainchild of MLK,right ?

and to answer your question that what the NOI and Black Panthers were championing and look where they are now.
 
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Nah.

If we accepted the legal separation of races in this country we would basically be giving up on the idea of a coexistence and just creating the potential for even more Balkanization in the future.

The only way to fight racism is through familiarity. 90% of white racists ive met just have never spent any significant with minorities...no black friends, no black lovers, no black relatives, no black pastors, etc.

When you don't spent anytime with other races and see them as people it's easy to write them off as "the other" and think you got nothing in common with them.
 
Smh you niggas are against this but stay saying that we should be more like the Jews or Asians and keep our resources within the community. Some of you just need to face the fact that you crave white acceptance and validation
 
Sandinista;c-9767813 said:
Nah.

If we accepted the legal separation of races in this country we would basically be giving up on the idea of a coexistence and just creating the potential for even more Balkanization in the future.

The only way to fight racism is through familiarity. 90% of white racists ive met just have never spent any significant with minorities...no black friends, no black lovers, no black relatives, no black pastors, etc.

When you don't spent anytime with other races and see them as people it's easy to write them off as "the other" and think you got nothing in common with them.

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Sandinista;c-9767813 said:
Nah.

If we accepted the legal separation of races in this country we would basically be giving up on the idea of a coexistence and just creating the potential for even more Balkanization in the future.

The only way to fight racism is through familiarity. 90% of white racists ive met just have never spent any significant with minorities...no black friends, no black lovers, no black relatives, no black pastors, etc.

When you don't spent anytime with other races and see them as people it's easy to write them off as "the other" and think you got nothing in common with them.

The concept of somehow segregation and subpar opportunities and such was better is pretty ridiculous but it was already "separate but equal" supposedly. Of course thats not the reality. The only way to increase the chance of real equal treatment is not to separate based on "race". The races werent separated from the start of this country when white men were forcing themselves on black women. There was no way to do that it was something that was incorrect and unjust and unsustainable. I get some on here want that system still but really in 2017...come on man.
 
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Sandinista;c-9767813 said:
Nah.

If we accepted the legal separation of races in this country we would basically be giving up on the idea of a coexistence and just creating the potential for even more Balkanization in the future.

The only way to fight racism is through familiarity. 90% of white racists ive met just have never spent any significant with minorities...no black friends, no black lovers, no black relatives, no black pastors, etc.

When you don't spent anytime with other races and see them as people it's easy to write them off as "the other" and think you got nothing in common with them.

Basura!
 
ghostdog56;c-9767824 said:
Smh you niggas are against this but stay saying that we should be more like the Jews or Asians and keep our resources within the community. Some of you just need to face the fact that you crave white acceptance and validation

you cant be against a hypothetical that has been proven not to work, integration/globalisation is an inevitable part of human existence , you would still end up here with or without MLK.

Moreover black people are not a monolith the idea of black progress is different for certain groups.
 
We already try that ,white people will find a way to burn our towns to the ground if we were separating ourselves from them,those Whites will follows us to see" what them negros are up to".
 
Yeah, that's what I've been thinking as well. The most notable time in history that they felt us was the Montgomery bus boycott when their pockets took a beating. The other side of that coin is that when we were left to ourselves and flourished, here they came with guns, bombs, and legislation. We got smoothly finessed out of Seneca Village to the point that it's a NY landmark under a different name. Oh well, woulda, shoulda, coulda.
 
Sandinista;c-9767813 said:
Nah.

If we accepted the legal separation of races in this country we would basically be giving up on the idea of a coexistence and just creating the potential for even more Balkanization in the future.

The only way to fight racism is through familiarity. 90% of white racists ive met just have never spent any significant with minorities...no black friends, no black lovers, no black relatives, no black pastors, etc.



When you don't spent anytime with other races and see them as people it's easy to write them off as "the other" and think you got nothing in common with them.

Y is the onus on negros to do all of that.

Native Americans and negros have proven they dont have to be familiar with a different race to be friendly with em.

Whites are the only ones warlike from the get go and it's not like theyre stupid about it.

They were smart enough to get resources from the native americans b4 they turned on em.

Full time some of yall accept that they're just fuckin savages.
 
ineedpussy;d-557752 said:
fighting for separate but equal than we want to be the same?

it seems like if we would of fought for separate but equal it would of probably served the black community better because we would still have the sense of self and whites wouldnt have to worry about us fuckin up all things white.

wait let me make sure i understand this....

you're saying that MLK should have been promoting segregation?

I know the hoteps if the IC love to talk about how great the segregation / jim crow era was but applying that asinine train of thought to MLK - a man who actively lived and died specifically to fight segregation and the legalized discrimination that comes with it - is just straight-up ridiculous.
 
We know that our attempts were met with violence and destruction. This should be an indicator that it was working and still will work. Blacks are afraid whites will react as they have in the past so, many are against it.

Separate but equal doesn't mean we have to seclude ourselves or exclude others. It actually means that when we interact with other cultures whether it be for business or pleasure they are getting our true selves and culture. I live in predominately Black part of town where I do the majority of my business but I certainly venture out to intermingle. I don't get where some of yall are coming from with this bullshit notion that we have to give up being self-sufficient for the sake of diversity and opportunity to experience other races.
 
gns;c-9767881 said:
Sandinista;c-9767813 said:
Nah.

If we accepted the legal separation of races in this country we would basically be giving up on the idea of a coexistence and just creating the potential for even more Balkanization in the future.

The only way to fight racism is through familiarity. 90% of white racists ive met just have never spent any significant with minorities...no black friends, no black lovers, no black relatives, no black pastors, etc.



When you don't spent anytime with other races and see them as people it's easy to write them off as "the other" and think you got nothing in common with them.

Y is the onus on negros to do all of that.

Native Americans and negros have proven they dont have to be familiar with a different race to be friendly with em.

Whites are the only ones warlike from the get go and it's not like theyre stupid about it.

They were smart enough to get resources from the native americans b4 they turned on em.

Full time some of yall accept that they're just fuckin savages.

Native Americans are segregated but equal and their communities have high crime , alcohol abuse problems, unreported rape issues,low employment , poor health and education options, so this rosey picture that you guys paint about how great it would be to segregated but equal needs better clarification.
 
gns;c-9767881 said:
Sandinista;c-9767813 said:
Nah.

If we accepted the legal separation of races in this country we would basically be giving up on the idea of a coexistence and just creating the potential for even more Balkanization in the future.

The only way to fight racism is through familiarity. 90% of white racists ive met just have never spent any significant with minorities...no black friends, no black lovers, no black relatives, no black pastors, etc.



When you don't spent anytime with other races and see them as people it's easy to write them off as "the other" and think you got nothing in common with them.

Y is the onus on negros to do all of that.

Native Americans and negros have proven they dont have to be familiar with a different race to be friendly with em.

Whites are the only ones warlike from the get go and it's not like theyre stupid about it.

They were smart enough to get resources from the native americans b4 they turned on em.

Full time some of yall accept that they're just fuckin savages.

The bolded shows a profound misunderstanding of history.

Several Indian tribes bought and sold black slaves. Indians also weren't even friendly with each other, engaging in chronic warfare with other tribes even before one European set foot in this continent.

And black soldiers fought in the Indian Wars as well and participated in the killing of Indians.

There ain't nothing "savage" about white people. ALL HUMANS are savage. All humans have the potential for genocidal racism in their DNA. Whites just happened...by accident of geography and history...to have the bigger stick in the 1500s when colonization started.

Or do you think if the Aztecs had discovered Europe instead of the other way around they'd have treated Europeans with gentleness and loving affection?

FOH
 
Also I like not being limited to a box. I like being able to get money with anybody, etc. Being able to go to whichever place to eat, whichever beach, whichever school, whichever job, not limit business...get the picture? Is this simple concept hard to follow? without being told "you cant come in here or do that" Segregation nastalgia when the blacks were "in their place" it actually hurts some that its still not like it was before MLK (I wonder who for the most part? I would wager many of them are "outside the black community" in reality) for instance you can notice certain patterns from certain posters.but they can dream I guess.
 
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NoCompetition;c-9767921 said:
Also I like not being limited to a box. I like being able to get money with anybody, etc. Being able to go to whichever place to eat, whichever beach, whichever school, whichever job, not limit business...get the picture? Is this simple concept hard to follow? without being told "you cant come in here or do that" Segregation nastalgia when the blacks were "in their place" some can dream I guess.

I don't want to fight for the right to be at a place where I'm not wanted. I'd rather eat at a place where I'm wanted while being amongst my people. Building a community and looking after our own.
 
SneakDZA;c-9767888 said:
ineedpussy;d-557752 said:
fighting for separate but equal than we want to be the same?

it seems like if we would of fought for separate but equal it would of probably served the black community better because we would still have the sense of self and whites wouldnt have to worry about us fuckin up all things white.

wait let me make sure i understand this....

you're saying that MLK should have been promoting segregation?

I know the hoteps if the IC love to talk about how great the segregation / jim crow era was but applying that asinine train of thought to MLK - a man who actively lived and died specifically to fight segregation and the legalized discrimination that comes with it - is just straight-up ridiculous.

Which, toward the end he was murked when he began to see racists for what they were. A people that would never accept integration as he envisioned it. Thus he began preaching more to the idea of Black self preservation.

In addition to this MLK supporters such and James Farmer and Wyatt Walker who debated Malcolms idea of separation said years later Malcolm was indeed correct.
 

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