Woman Tells A Class Full Of Girls She Don't Pay Bills Because She Knows How To Take Care Of A Man

[LUClEN]

This is all great until you get old and find yourself divorced and unable to compete in the job market because you've been a homemaker for 20 years.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Ain’t watch the vid but I can speak from personal experience....when I have a woman that’s on her shit you fucking right she ain’t gotta work. The King gonna take care of all that. Bills, recreation, independent ventures...I’m on it.

But.....

It’s plenty that comes with that. I’m not an easy mf to deal with. She can’t suck my dick and feed me and think I’m going. Only been 3 women in my life that have reached executive status but eventually I broke them. Didn’t do it on purpose but shit. It happens. The mf I married got it better than all them hoes. Live in nanny, allowance, plenty of “me time”.

Truth is most women can’t handle a mf once they convince themselves “he’s too good to be true”

care to elaborate

 

[D. Morgan]

It’s fair. That old school mentality exists still.

So does old school racist mentality..is that fair too?

Foul.

Wow Kat, I actually agree with you - who are you ?

No but I do think that shit is foul. That's not the way everybody thinks - that shit shouldn't be taught to a room full of young girls trying to get the same education that a group of guys would get.

If those young ladies can grow up to have jobs and pay bills, why should they be told "I ain't never pay a bill in my life..." like that's the way to be ?

And basically some ho shit that they have "value" based on a man. Now if she was just saying they are valuable because they are independent worthy human beings, etc... cool but that shit sounded foul.

She did actually say that though. She said that she was strong enough and in a place to not have a man on her arm

... I heard that too, but immediately followed by the whole "I ain't never pay a bill" shit. That's fuckin terrible bruh. How you grown championing some dependent shit like that ?

If you strong enough that you don't need said person then you aren't actually dependent

But how you proving you "strong enough" by saying you never pay bills ?

If she would've said, "I'm educated and can work, but my husband pays the bills and I take care of the kids because that's what we agreed on. He's good at his job and I'm good at taking care of the children" etc... etc... etc... I might've been on board (even though that ain't for me personally).

Bottom line is, some people believe in some gender roles that other people don't - that's a problem with divorce too. Can't be teaching this to a room full of other peoples' kids.

On another note, why would I not want to raise my daughter to be independent and self-sufficient ?

Having a relationship / marriage is some additional shit. I want her to be able to take care of herself without needing anybody else. If she works it out with a man - fine, but I'm not training her to be some type of "pay me for my company" chick WTF ?

How anybody proving anything by just saying some shit. There are people who can get up there and say go to college and get advanced degrees and NOT tell those kids about all the debt they in and how they can't find a job in their field to even make a realistic dent in that debt. So I ain't trying to hear that shit.

You projecting a lot of personal feelings into what that lady said and you only heard a 1 min and some change of what seemed to be a much longer speech.

You keep trying to say she didn't say that when she did just cause she didn't word in the way that you would've liked her to. That woman said she is in a place where she is strong enough where she doesn't NEED a man on her arm. WTF else is she saying besides I can take care of myself but my husband and I have agreed upon a certain lifestyle and that works for us. If you don't like how she worded it you better off saying that instead trying to make it like she didn't say that at all.

She didn't say people shouldn't raise their daughters to be self-sufficient or independent. All she said was she was taught early on how to take care of a husband and when she got old enough to date she looked for a husband and not a man. She looked for a man that would compliment what she brought to the table.

None of yall heard that woman tell those young girls to not be independent or self-sufficient. That is just the way yall took it.

That other is shit something you need to personally come to grips with cause I didn't even hear shit remotely close to coming away with that line of thinking.

Reading some of the responses IMO a lot yall just don't want the responsibility and pressure of being the sole monetary provider for the household. I understand and know everything ain't for everybody but the shit said in here ain't even close to what that lady was saying.

For the record my wife and I live by old school gender roles and are 100% happy. That ain't for the next couple and I don't have any problems with that or even care how yall run yall relationship. Since I don't care I ain't going to knock it even if I disagree with it.

 

[playmaker88]

and that is a problem. no need for paragraphs

 

[Kwan Dai]

It’s fair. That old school mentality exists still.

So does old school racist mentality..is that fair too?

Foul.

Wow Kat, I actually agree with you - who are you ?

No but I do think that shit is foul. That's not the way everybody thinks - that shit shouldn't be taught to a room full of young girls trying to get the same education that a group of guys would get.

If those young ladies can grow up to have jobs and pay bills, why should they be told "I ain't never pay a bill in my life..." like that's the way to be ?

And basically some ho shit that they have "value" based on a man. Now if she was just saying they are valuable because they are independent worthy human beings, etc... cool but that shit sounded foul.

She did actually say that though. She said that she was strong enough and in a place to not have a man on her arm

... I heard that too, but immediately followed by the whole "I ain't never pay a bill" shit. That's fuckin terrible bruh. How you grown championing some dependent shit like that ?

If you strong enough that you don't need said person then you aren't actually dependent

But how you proving you "strong enough" by saying you never pay bills ?

If she would've said, "I'm educated and can work, but my husband pays the bills and I take care of the kids because that's what we agreed on. He's good at his job and I'm good at taking care of the children" etc... etc... etc... I might've been on board (even though that ain't for me personally).

Bottom line is, some people believe in some gender roles that other people don't - that's a problem with divorce too. Can't be teaching this to a room full of other peoples' kids.

On another note, why would I not want to raise my daughter to be independent and self-sufficient ?

Having a relationship / marriage is some additional shit. I want her to be able to take care of herself without needing anybody else. If she works it out with a man - fine, but I'm not training her to be some type of "pay me for my company" chick WTF ?

How anybody proving anything by just saying some shit. There are people who can get up there and say go to college and get advanced degrees and NOT tell those kids about all the debt they in and how they can't find a job in their field to even make a realistic dent in that debt. So I ain't trying to hear that shit.

You projecting a lot of personal feelings into what that lady said and you only heard a 1 min and some change of what seemed to be a much longer speech.

You keep trying to say she didn't say that when she did just cause she didn't word in the way that you would've liked her to. That woman said she is in a place where she is strong enough where she doesn't NEED a man on her arm. WTF else is she saying besides I can take care of myself but my husband and I have agreed upon a certain lifestyle and that works for us. If you don't like how she worded it you better off saying that instead trying to make it like she didn't say that at all.

She didn't say people shouldn't raise their daughters to be self-sufficient or independent. All she said was she was taught early on how to take care of a husband and when she got old enough to date she looked for a husband and not a man. She looked for a man that would compliment what she brought to the table.

None of yall heard that woman tell those young girls to not be independent or self-sufficient. That is just the way yall took it.

That other is shit something you need to personally come to grips with cause I didn't even hear shit remotely close to coming away with that line of thinking.

Reading some of the responses IMO a lot yall just don't want the responsibility and pressure of being the sole monetary provider for the household. I understand and know everything ain't for everybody but the shit said in here ain't even close to what that lady was saying.

For the record my wife and I live by old school gender roles and are 100% happy. That ain't for the next couple and I don't have any problems with that or even care how yall run yall relationship. Since I don't care I ain't going to knock it even if I disagree with it.

Dope. What's going on is there's a bunch of nignogs in here who can't comfortably take their lady for a burger. So, rent and a car note is clearly beyond their scope.

This has nothing to do with gender roles and everything to with how a husband and wife agree to run their household.

 

[D. Morgan]

and that is a problem. no need for paragraphs

For you it is.

Never for me!

I'll type as many paragraphs as I fucking want

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

If you have a daughter you don’t teach them to think like that.

You teach them to take care of themselves and be with a man who can do the same. Period.

 

[THIRDSUPREME]

Hell, a woman like that is a borderline dependent to a real man after a while in that situation since kids can look after themselves after a while and he can cook and clean shit himself. Now you're just in the house and not bringing any money into it. The only niggas that get excited over that are niggas that like to be insecure and rule over their women and bitches that like to be trophy wives and treated like children.

Exactly!

 

[playmaker88]

If you have a daughter you don’t teach them to think like that.

You teach them to take care of themselves and be with a man who can do the same. Period.

This. like ive been saying we as in general terms.. people need to change the way we raise our daughters and sons

that fairytale bullshit is for the books and for a time when women were made to be dependent. The first priority is to be self reliant, self confident and always look out for #1 male or female..

 

[D. Morgan]

This the most selective hearing and projection shit I've ever seen.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

It’s fair. That old school mentality exists still.

So does old school racist mentality..is that fair too?

Foul.

Wow Kat, I actually agree with you - who are you ?

No but I do think that shit is foul. That's not the way everybody thinks - that shit shouldn't be taught to a room full of young girls trying to get the same education that a group of guys would get.

If those young ladies can grow up to have jobs and pay bills, why should they be told "I ain't never pay a bill in my life..." like that's the way to be ?

And basically some ho shit that they have "value" based on a man. Now if she was just saying they are valuable because they are independent worthy human beings, etc... cool but that shit sounded foul.

She did actually say that though. She said that she was strong enough and in a place to not have a man on her arm

... I heard that too, but immediately followed by the whole "I ain't never pay a bill" shit. That's fuckin terrible bruh. How you grown championing some dependent shit like that ?

If you strong enough that you don't need said person then you aren't actually dependent

But how you proving you "strong enough" by saying you never pay bills ?

If she would've said, "I'm educated and can work, but my husband pays the bills and I take care of the kids because that's what we agreed on. He's good at his job and I'm good at taking care of the children" etc... etc... etc... I might've been on board (even though that ain't for me personally).

Bottom line is, some people believe in some gender roles that other people don't - that's a problem with divorce too. Can't be teaching this to a room full of other peoples' kids.

On another note, why would I not want to raise my daughter to be independent and self-sufficient ?

Having a relationship / marriage is some additional shit. I want her to be able to take care of herself without needing anybody else. If she works it out with a man - fine, but I'm not training her to be some type of "pay me for my company" chick WTF ?

How anybody proving anything by just saying some shit. There are people who can get up there and say go to college and get advanced degrees and NOT tell those kids about all the debt they in and how they can't find a job in their field to even make a realistic dent in that debt. So I ain't trying to hear that shit.

You projecting a lot of personal feelings into what that lady said and you only heard a 1 min and some change of what seemed to be a much longer speech.

You keep trying to say she didn't say that when she did just cause she didn't word in the way that you would've liked her to. That woman said she is in a place where she is strong enough where she doesn't NEED a man on her arm. WTF else is she saying besides I can take care of myself but my husband and I have agreed upon a certain lifestyle and that works for us. If you don't like how she worded it you better off saying that instead trying to make it like she didn't say that at all.

She didn't say people shouldn't raise their daughters to be self-sufficient or independent. All she said was she was taught early on how to take care of a husband and when she got old enough to date she looked for a husband and not a man. She looked for a man that would compliment what she brought to the table.

None of yall heard that woman tell those young girls to not be independent or self-sufficient. That is just the way yall took it.

That other is shit something you need to personally come to grips with cause I didn't even hear shit remotely close to coming away with that line of thinking.

Reading some of the responses IMO a lot yall just don't want the responsibility and pressure of being the sole monetary provider for the household. I understand and know everything ain't for everybody but the shit said in here ain't even close to what that lady was saying.

For the record my wife and I live by old school gender roles and are 100% happy. That ain't for the next couple and I don't have any problems with that or even care how yall run yall relationship. Since I don't care I ain't going to knock it even if I disagree with it.

i read this like the chick from the barbershop movie that was angry some nigga made her make vegan chilli...was saying it

yea....

 

[2stepz_ahead]

aye i can say....yes i can take care of me and my wife and her spending habits with no problem for many years....

but why would i not want her to bring in money?

see....these are the type women that end up claiming they dont know who they are. and then wanna go find themselves because they been in the shadows too long.

or sit around and do what all day once the kids in school? and when they hit high school its a wrap...you might see them like two maybe three hours a day tops.

sorry...im not one for it.

its not about projection or how someone else runs their household....but mine gotta work.

dont care if i make a mil a year and she makes 20k...together we will have 1.020.000 at the end of the year.

fukk im paying for her college loans and she aint gonna use the degree.

fukk that

 

[a.mann]

The problem I have is that this is how I was raised. I was not coached on how to qualify or attend college, it was almost assumed that I would graduate HS and get some BS job until I met a husband and had kids. That's the way my mother was raised as well.

The world has changed. Two incomes are usually needed, marriages don't last as they used to, a higher education is almost a necessity.

SOME women will find men to take care of them, but most will have to depend on self sufficiency or at minimum, contributing to the household.

I want my daughter prepared for best and worst case scenarios and not fed fairy tales.

lefty liberal

 

[D. Morgan]

aye i can say....yes i can take care of me and my wife and her spending habits with no problem for many years....

but why would i not want her to bring in money?

see....these are the type women that end up claiming they dont know who they are. and then wanna go find themselves because they been in the shadows too long.

or sit around and do what all day once the kids in school? and when they hit high school its a wrap...you might see them like two maybe three hours a day tops.

sorry...im not one for it.

its not about projection or how someone else runs their household....but mine gotta work.

dont care if i make a mil a year and she makes 20k...together we will have 1.020.000 at the end of the year.

fukk im paying for her college loans and she aint gonna use the degree.

fukk that

The bold say it all. That life ain't for you. Cool. That life is for me and mine. My wife works when she feels like it. She just came up on working for a year at her new spot. Before that she was off for like a year and a half. She only work part-time right now 3 days a week.

When I said projection people are in here projecting because they saying shit about that woman talking to them kids that they never heard her say. So if its not projecting then what would you call it? We all only heard 1 min and some change. I've personally only spoken about what she said not what I selectively heard her say.

There are plenty of things a woman can do from home daily while the kids at school and she has done whatever in the house that needs to be taken care of. Yall niggas just look at house wife as a lazy bitch while yall out slaving. Shit ain't like that all.

My wife while at home did plenty went to the library, took non credit courses all just to improve skills she already had or gain new ones.

Who said she had to go to college and have loans for you to deal with in the first place?

Tell the truth yall heard that woman say I ain't paid bills in 19 years and most of yall thought I ain't taking care of no bitch wife or not.

I laugh at shit like that.

 

[7figz]

I didn't have a problem with what she said. It's traditional gender roles. She's MARRIED, and her HUSBAND takes care of her. Not randos, not sugar daddies, a dude who wanted a traditional wife and they have what they wanted.

Also, she didn't say she wasn't self-sufficient. She said she knows her role and her value and she plays her part as the wife and mother. If they can afford to live on one income, who am I to say they doing it wrong?

I don't have a problem how other people choose to run their households either, but I do have a problem with teaching this shit to a room full of what looks like public school girls in an educational setting.

I wouldn't teach my daughter some ignorant shit like that, and wouldn't want this wrong and strong bitch doing it either.

 

[7figz]

It’s fair. That old school mentality exists still.

So does old school racist mentality..is that fair too?

Foul.

Wow Kat, I actually agree with you - who are you ?

No but I do think that shit is foul. That's not the way everybody thinks - that shit shouldn't be taught to a room full of young girls trying to get the same education that a group of guys would get.

If those young ladies can grow up to have jobs and pay bills, why should they be told "I ain't never pay a bill in my life..." like that's the way to be ?

And basically some ho shit that they have "value" based on a man. Now if she was just saying they are valuable because they are independent worthy human beings, etc... cool but that shit sounded foul.

She did actually say that though. She said that she was strong enough and in a place to not have a man on her arm

... I heard that too, but immediately followed by the whole "I ain't never pay a bill" shit. That's fuckin terrible bruh. How you grown championing some dependent shit like that ?

If you strong enough that you don't need said person then you aren't actually dependent

But how you proving you "strong enough" by saying you never pay bills ?

If she would've said, "I'm educated and can work, but my husband pays the bills and I take care of the kids because that's what we agreed on. He's good at his job and I'm good at taking care of the children" etc... etc... etc... I might've been on board (even though that ain't for me personally).

Bottom line is, some people believe in some gender roles that other people don't - that's a problem with divorce too. Can't be teaching this to a room full of other peoples' kids.

On another note, why would I not want to raise my daughter to be independent and self-sufficient ?

Having a relationship / marriage is some additional shit. I want her to be able to take care of herself without needing anybody else. If she works it out with a man - fine, but I'm not training her to be some type of "pay me for my company" chick WTF ?

How anybody proving anything by just saying some shit. There are people who can get up there and say go to college and get advanced degrees and NOT tell those kids about all the debt they in and how they can't find a job in their field to even make a realistic dent in that debt. So I ain't trying to hear that shit.

You projecting a lot of personal feelings into what that lady said and you only heard a 1 min and some change of what seemed to be a much longer speech.

Bro - I posted this shit, where the hell would you get that I only heard 1 min. of it ?

It’s fair. That old school mentality exists still.

So does old school racist mentality..is that fair too?

Foul.

Wow Kat, I actually agree with you - who are you ?

No but I do think that shit is foul. That's not the way everybody thinks - that shit shouldn't be taught to a room full of young girls trying to get the same education that a group of guys would get.

If those young ladies can grow up to have jobs and pay bills, why should they be told "I ain't never pay a bill in my life..." like that's the way to be ?

And basically some ho shit that they have "value" based on a man. Now if she was just saying they are valuable because they are independent worthy human beings, etc... cool but that shit sounded foul.

She did actually say that though. She said that she was strong enough and in a place to not have a man on her arm

... I heard that too, but immediately followed by the whole "I ain't never pay a bill" shit. That's fuckin terrible bruh. How you grown championing some dependent shit like that ?

If you strong enough that you don't need said person then you aren't actually dependent

But how you proving you "strong enough" by saying you never pay bills ?

If she would've said, "I'm educated and can work, but my husband pays the bills and I take care of the kids because that's what we agreed on. He's good at his job and I'm good at taking care of the children" etc... etc... etc... I might've been on board (even though that ain't for me personally).

Bottom line is, some people believe in some gender roles that other people don't - that's a problem with divorce too. Can't be teaching this to a room full of other peoples' kids.

On another note, why would I not want to raise my daughter to be independent and self-sufficient ?

Having a relationship / marriage is some additional shit. I want her to be able to take care of herself without needing anybody else. If she works it out with a man - fine, but I'm not training her to be some type of "pay me for my company" chick WTF ?

Reading some of the responses IMO a lot yall just don't want the responsibility and pressure of being the sole monetary provider for the household. I understand and know everything ain't for everybody but the shit said in here ain't even close to what that lady was saying.

For the record my wife and I live by old school gender roles and are 100% happy. That ain't for the next couple and I don't have any problems with that or even care how yall run yall relationship. Since I don't care I ain't going to knock it even if I disagree with it.

I'm not even going to write a long response because it's not necessary. The fact that you see so many people disagreeing on this topic, with perfectly valid reasons, shows how 'open to interpretation' and easily-misconstrued what she said could be, no matter how well intentioned. So, you run your household the way she does - fuckin' great !

For all the people who don't, and would want their daughters to actually work, and not just say they're independent - it's a different story.

And like I mentioned in the post above this, the reason it's open to scrutiny isn't because of how her family chooses to live their lives, it's because she's teaching it to a group of other peoples' daughters. Shit, you can even hear some grumbles from some of the kids when she said it.

 

[D. Morgan]

It’s fair. That old school mentality exists still.

So does old school racist mentality..is that fair too?

Foul.

Wow Kat, I actually agree with you - who are you ?

No but I do think that shit is foul. That's not the way everybody thinks - that shit shouldn't be taught to a room full of young girls trying to get the same education that a group of guys would get.

If those young ladies can grow up to have jobs and pay bills, why should they be told "I ain't never pay a bill in my life..." like that's the way to be ?

And basically some ho shit that they have "value" based on a man. Now if she was just saying they are valuable because they are independent worthy human beings, etc... cool but that shit sounded foul.

She did actually say that though. She said that she was strong enough and in a place to not have a man on her arm

... I heard that too, but immediately followed by the whole "I ain't never pay a bill" shit. That's fuckin terrible bruh. How you grown championing some dependent shit like that ?

If you strong enough that you don't need said person then you aren't actually dependent

But how you proving you "strong enough" by saying you never pay bills ?

If she would've said, "I'm educated and can work, but my husband pays the bills and I take care of the kids because that's what we agreed on. He's good at his job and I'm good at taking care of the children" etc... etc... etc... I might've been on board (even though that ain't for me personally).

Bottom line is, some people believe in some gender roles that other people don't - that's a problem with divorce too. Can't be teaching this to a room full of other peoples' kids.

On another note, why would I not want to raise my daughter to be independent and self-sufficient ?

Having a relationship / marriage is some additional shit. I want her to be able to take care of herself without needing anybody else. If she works it out with a man - fine, but I'm not training her to be some type of "pay me for my company" chick WTF ?

How anybody proving anything by just saying some shit. There are people who can get up there and say go to college and get advanced degrees and NOT tell those kids about all the debt they in and how they can't find a job in their field to even make a realistic dent in that debt. So I ain't trying to hear that shit.

You projecting a lot of personal feelings into what that lady said and you only heard a 1 min and some change of what seemed to be a much longer speech.

Bro - I posted this shit, where the hell would you get that I only heard 1 min. of it ?

It’s fair. That old school mentality exists still.

So does old school racist mentality..is that fair too?

Foul.

Wow Kat, I actually agree with you - who are you ?

No but I do think that shit is foul. That's not the way everybody thinks - that shit shouldn't be taught to a room full of young girls trying to get the same education that a group of guys would get.

If those young ladies can grow up to have jobs and pay bills, why should they be told "I ain't never pay a bill in my life..." like that's the way to be ?

And basically some ho shit that they have "value" based on a man. Now if she was just saying they are valuable because they are independent worthy human beings, etc... cool but that shit sounded foul.

She did actually say that though. She said that she was strong enough and in a place to not have a man on her arm

... I heard that too, but immediately followed by the whole "I ain't never pay a bill" shit. That's fuckin terrible bruh. How you grown championing some dependent shit like that ?

If you strong enough that you don't need said person then you aren't actually dependent

But how you proving you "strong enough" by saying you never pay bills ?

If she would've said, "I'm educated and can work, but my husband pays the bills and I take care of the kids because that's what we agreed on. He's good at his job and I'm good at taking care of the children" etc... etc... etc... I might've been on board (even though that ain't for me personally).

Bottom line is, some people believe in some gender roles that other people don't - that's a problem with divorce too. Can't be teaching this to a room full of other peoples' kids.

On another note, why would I not want to raise my daughter to be independent and self-sufficient ?

Having a relationship / marriage is some additional shit. I want her to be able to take care of herself without needing anybody else. If she works it out with a man - fine, but I'm not training her to be some type of "pay me for my company" chick WTF ?

Reading some of the responses IMO a lot yall just don't want the responsibility and pressure of being the sole monetary provider for the household. I understand and know everything ain't for everybody but the shit said in here ain't even close to what that lady was saying.

For the record my wife and I live by old school gender roles and are 100% happy. That ain't for the next couple and I don't have any problems with that or even care how yall run yall relationship. Since I don't care I ain't going to knock it even if I disagree with it.

I'm not even going to write a long response because it's not necessary. The fact that you see so many people disagreeing on this topic, with perfectly valid reasons, shows how 'open to interpretation' and easily-misconstrued what she said could be, no matter how well intentioned. So, you run your household the way she does - fuckin' great !

For all the people who don't, and would want their daughters to actually work, and not just say they're independent - it's a different story.

And like I mentioned in the post above this, the reason it's open to scrutiny isn't because of how her family chooses to live their lives, it's because she's teaching it to a group of (other peoples') young girls. Shit, you can even hear some grumbles from some of the kids when she said it.

Quite obvious that exactly what some of yall doing and can keep doing it until yalls hearts are content.

 

[Kwan Dai]

It’s fair. That old school mentality exists still.

So does old school racist mentality..is that fair too?

Foul.

Wow Kat, I actually agree with you - who are you ?

No but I do think that shit is foul. That's not the way everybody thinks - that shit shouldn't be taught to a room full of young girls trying to get the same education that a group of guys would get.

If those young ladies can grow up to have jobs and pay bills, why should they be told "I ain't never pay a bill in my life..." like that's the way to be ?

And basically some ho shit that they have "value" based on a man. Now if she was just saying they are valuable because they are independent worthy human beings, etc... cool but that shit sounded foul.

She did actually say that though. She said that she was strong enough and in a place to not have a man on her arm

... I heard that too, but immediately followed by the whole "I ain't never pay a bill" shit. That's fuckin terrible bruh. How you grown championing some dependent shit like that ?

If you strong enough that you don't need said person then you aren't actually dependent

But how you proving you "strong enough" by saying you never pay bills ?

If she would've said, "I'm educated and can work, but my husband pays the bills and I take care of the kids because that's what we agreed on. He's good at his job and I'm good at taking care of the children" etc... etc... etc... I might've been on board (even though that ain't for me personally).

Bottom line is, some people believe in some gender roles that other people don't - that's a problem with divorce too. Can't be teaching this to a room full of other peoples' kids.

On another note, why would I not want to raise my daughter to be independent and self-sufficient ?

Having a relationship / marriage is some additional shit. I want her to be able to take care of herself without needing anybody else. If she works it out with a man - fine, but I'm not training her to be some type of "pay me for my company" chick WTF ?

How anybody proving anything by just saying some shit. There are people who can get up there and say go to college and get advanced degrees and NOT tell those kids about all the debt they in and how they can't find a job in their field to even make a realistic dent in that debt. So I ain't trying to hear that shit.

You projecting a lot of personal feelings into what that lady said and you only heard a 1 min and some change of what seemed to be a much longer speech.

Bro - I posted this shit, where the hell would you get that I only heard 1 min. of it ?

It’s fair. That old school mentality exists still.

So does old school racist mentality..is that fair too?

Foul.

Wow Kat, I actually agree with you - who are you ?

No but I do think that shit is foul. That's not the way everybody thinks - that shit shouldn't be taught to a room full of young girls trying to get the same education that a group of guys would get.

If those young ladies can grow up to have jobs and pay bills, why should they be told "I ain't never pay a bill in my life..." like that's the way to be ?

And basically some ho shit that they have "value" based on a man. Now if she was just saying they are valuable because they are independent worthy human beings, etc... cool but that shit sounded foul.

She did actually say that though. She said that she was strong enough and in a place to not have a man on her arm

... I heard that too, but immediately followed by the whole "I ain't never pay a bill" shit. That's fuckin terrible bruh. How you grown championing some dependent shit like that ?

If you strong enough that you don't need said person then you aren't actually dependent

But how you proving you "strong enough" by saying you never pay bills ?

If she would've said, "I'm educated and can work, but my husband pays the bills and I take care of the kids because that's what we agreed on. He's good at his job and I'm good at taking care of the children" etc... etc... etc... I might've been on board (even though that ain't for me personally).

Bottom line is, some people believe in some gender roles that other people don't - that's a problem with divorce too. Can't be teaching this to a room full of other peoples' kids.

On another note, why would I not want to raise my daughter to be independent and self-sufficient ?

Having a relationship / marriage is some additional shit. I want her to be able to take care of herself without needing anybody else. If she works it out with a man - fine, but I'm not training her to be some type of "pay me for my company" chick WTF ?

Reading some of the responses IMO a lot yall just don't want the responsibility and pressure of being the sole monetary provider for the household. I understand and know everything ain't for everybody but the shit said in here ain't even close to what that lady was saying.

For the record my wife and I live by old school gender roles and are 100% happy. That ain't for the next couple and I don't have any problems with that or even care how yall run yall relationship. Since I don't care I ain't going to knock it even if I disagree with it.

I'm not even going to write a long response because it's not necessary. The fact that you see so many people disagreeing on this topic, with perfectly valid reasons, shows how 'open to interpretation' and easily-misconstrued what she said could be, no matter how well intentioned. So, you run your household the way she does - fuckin' great !

For all the people who don't, and would want their daughters to actually work, and not just say they're independent - it's a different story.

And like I mentioned in the post above this, the reason it's open to scrutiny isn't because of how her family chooses to live their lives, it's because she's teaching it to a group of other peoples' daughters. Shit, you can even hear some grumbles from some of the kids when she said it.

If a mans daughter is describing herself or the embracing the moniker of independent you've lost as a father.

 

[AggieLean.]

Of course I’m going to prepare my daughter to be able to support herself if needed, but I would love for her to be in a situation like this woman’s currently in.

Saw nothing wrong with what she was talking.

 

[playmaker88]

you to should aspire to be "good enough" to aspire to have someone take care of you

this runs parallel to people being excited that a black woman was chosen by Harry or whichever kid that is.