Will there ever be a white rapper that will be accepted by the black audience?

[loch121]

I'm far from a house nigga and I'm in the field 100 times more than you.trust me

feminem is a lyin racist cracka i dont care how many houseniggaz & muuunkeez he made rich cuz that cracka feminem is da worse type of white person cuz that cracka will grin n ya face & call u a N1GGER behind ya back fuk white crackaz like feminem & real/fieldniggaz aint fukinn wit that cracka only HOUSENIGGAZ is! white people should want feminem outta hiphop cuz he makez whitez look bad!

white boy stfu!

u aint heard that crackaz racist tapez shittin on BLKZ?

 

[gee757]

lol yup u mad! I'm not white btw, are u blind too nigga?

im not mad white boy itz da TRUTH & u r a cracka now go praise ya cracka gawd cracka!

I'm far from a house nigga and I'm in the field 100 times more than you.trust me

if u praise a racist cracka like feminem YES U R A HOUSENIGGA & u aint n no field 100 timez mo then me doin shit cuz i post;d proof of my SOURCE cd wit blk activistZ like MALIK SHABAZZ, NIKKI GIOVaNNA & BOB LAW all shittin on da cracka feminem fa them RACIST TAPEZ u aint got shit on me talkin that CRACKA shit!

 

[Bigavelli]

ahemm. clears throat!! you have to be ACCEPTED by Blacks. especially Hood Blacks from the project.. let repeat the formula!!!

It's the other way around really people in the hood follow Upper Class Suburban white culture as far as wearing Ralph Lauren Polo, wearing Gucci, Prada, Ed Hardy, True Religion

 

[Bigavelli]

Eminem got his urban fans on the Slim Shady LP.He was accepted and that acceptance took him to mainstream.Em's 1st album sold bout 3 x plat which in 98 was the urban market.After3 mill you were mainstream America.After the black ppl gave the ok by saying he could spit white America felt more comfortable supporting him.Em is dope white or black.great artist

On the IC Eminem is the biggest myth ever

You hear posters they don't like or relate or enjoy the Shock Content he does with his Slim Shady character but then you just pointed out black folk supported The Slim Shady LP

You hear Eminem is a Wigga and a wannabee on here cos he wore Du Rags, Sweat Suit's, only hung with black people etc but then you just said Eminem doesnt try to be a Wigga and expresses and lets his whiteness out

You hear on the IC Eminem is the highest selling Artist ever based alot on him being white but then the other white Rappers have sold no where near him not even sold close to most black Artists

You hear on the IC people can't relate to what he Rap's about as far as growing up poor, loving his daughter, baby mother drama, family troubles but then these same posters say they can relate to these topics Eminem covers when black Artisrs Rap about all those topics

 

[Kwan Dai]

For any White Rapper to get any real respect from me they simply would need to actually tell the truth about White America, and her oppression of Blacks and Browns. Anything other then that is, just self serving and misses the true essence of Hip Hop.

 

[Bigavelli]

hanging round black your whole life and marrying a black woman don't make you black...it makes his kids half black

The funny thing is though and the IC chooses to ignore this

Paul Wall grew up in a Middle Class Suburb that is dominated by whites population wise

 

[Kwan Dai]

The funny thing is though and the IC chooses to ignore this

Paul Wall grew up in a Middle Class Suburb that is dominated by whites population wise

While that might true. I think most people come to Pauls defense because, he has carried himself with some self respect. Like the Beasty Boys, or 3rd Base. They knew they were White Boys in a Black Culture but they chose not to cross certain lines.

 

[gee757]

For any White Rapper to get any real respect from me they simply would need to actually tell the truth about White America, and her oppression of Blacks and Browns. Anything other then that is, just self serving and misses the true essence of Hip Hop.

& wit that said & this source cd...

THAT RACIST CRACKA FEMINEM HAS NO BIZNIZZ MAKIN A LIVIN OFF OF HIPHOP!

 

[Bigavelli]

While that might true. I think most people come to Pauls defense because, he has carried himself with some self respect. Like the Beasty Boys, or 3rd Base. They knew they were White Boys in a Black Culture but they chose not to cross certain lines.

I can respect that and in that sense you are right and 1 of the more sensible posters on this message board when it comes to Eminem you don't like him but don't out right hate

But that aside can you not see the contradictions with Eminem do you really think Eminem wants to make Song's like 'My Name Is' and have an Alter Ego called Slim Shady that is based on Shock Value? put yourself in his shoes just for 1 min even imagine Eminem browing this board and seeing all the comments about the Shock Value and how that is embarrasing and corny

But the problem is the contradictions on the IC when Eminem makes Album's like The Eminem Show and Recovery nd joints like 'Lose Yourself' and the deep joints even on the Slim Shady character based Album's like 'Rock Bottom' 'Beautiful' 'If I Had' etc basically Rapping about real life experiences he went through the average things like being a loving parent, growing up mad poor struggling to get by, baby mother drama, troubles with the law etc people say on the IC oh we can't relate to that it's too Emotional it's too soft he white he can't be talking about struggles etc

Then when he actually does use his Slim Shady character and is Rapping about the nonsense of murder, rape and out right Shock Value people on the IC say oh well who can relate to that it's corny it's bullshit

So sometimes you can never win if there is a hating agenda you see where i'm coming from?

 

[darnold]

Foolish Pride is a hell of a skeleton in the closet. Even still, I don't think its nearly as bad as people make it out to be. It was wack as fuck, he made when he was like 17. That's 30 years ago. If he was a so called "hip hop infiltrator" hell-bent on a secret mission to destroy rap culture, I think there would be alot more evidence than a 30 year old wack ass tape from a bad break-up.

 

[Fly_King]

will there ever be a black man accepted by all white people?

 

[Bigavelli]

If Nas made Song's like 'Mockingbird' 'Beautiful' 'Rock Bottom' 'Not Afraid' 'Soldier' 'Say Goodbye To Hollywood' 'Lose Yourself' 'Superman' etc Kwan do you really think these same posters would say they can't relate to Nas or these Song's?

We both know the answer is no people would be saying they are just great Song's about Personal struggles

 

[Bigavelli]

Foolish Pride is a hell of a skeleton in the closet. Even still, I don't think its nearly as bad as people make it out to be. It was wack as fuck, he made when he was like 17. That's 30 years ago. If he was a so called "hip hop infiltrator" hell-bent on a secret mission to destroy rap culture, I think there would be alot more evidence than a 30 year old wack ass tape from a bad break-up.

I think it could potentially have been a so called skeleton in the closet but i think the majority of people have forgiven him for Foolish Pride

You only hear people bring that up on the IC outside the IC in the real world i have never ever known anyone to even mention Foolish Pride

 

[gee757]

Foolish Pride is a hell of a skeleton in the closet. Even still, I don't think its nearly as bad as people make it out to be. It was wack as fuck, he made when he was like 17. That's 30 years ago. If he was a so called "hip hop infiltrator" hell-bent on a secret mission to destroy rap culture, I think there would be alot more evidence than a 30 year old wack ass tape from a bad break-up.

nah that racist lyin cracka aint no VICTIM & therr is mo then foolish pride therr is another racist trak call 'SO MANY STYLEZ' wherr da cracka feminem sayz "I DONT LIKE THAT N1GGER SHIT IM JUST HERR 2 MAKE A BIGGER HIT"....& stop believein that cracka feminemz LIE he was 21 when he made them racist tapez not 17 & that cracka neva had a blk gf that YELLOW BRICK ROAD trak was a LIE/XCUSE fa da foolish houseniggaz 2 fall fa but aint no REAL/FIELDNIGGAZ believe that shit.,.,.,.& if that racist cracka feminem can attack & diss & BLK BALL a BLK WOMAN like LAURYN HILL sayin her name is a DIRTY WORD ova a RUMOR of her bein racist against white people back n 99 then a REAL/FIELDNIGGA like me has da rite 2 diss that racist cracka feminem cuz it aint a RUMOR that cracka is a RACIST & therr is 120% I DONT LIKE THAT N1GGA SHIT PROOF!....FEMINEM is a DIRTY WORD 2 me cuz hez a RACIST CRACKA wit RACIST TAPEZ & i dont get down wit racist CRACKAZ & racist white crackaz dont have no biznizz n HIPHOP!

 

[Kwan Dai]

If Nas made Song's like 'Mockingbird' 'Beautiful' 'Rock Bottom' 'Not Afraid' 'Soldier' 'Say Goodbye To Hollywood' 'Lose Yourself' 'Superman' etc Kwan do you really think these same posters would say they can't relate to Nas or these Song's?

We both know the answer is no people would be saying they are just great Song's about Personal struggles

I don't know. I can't say for certain. I just can't rock with Em whether he is being introspective or not. There are just to many Black artists that resonate and make the type of Music I prefer.

 

[darnold]

nah that racist lyin cracka aint no VICTIM & therr is mo then foolish pride therr is another racist trak call 'SO MANY STYLEZ' wherr da cracka feminem sayz "I DONT LIKE THAT N1GGER SHIT IM JUST HERR 2 MAKE A BIGGER HIT"....& stop believein that cracka feminemz LIE he was 21 when he made them racist tapez not 17 & that cracka neva had a blk gf that YELLOW BRICK ROAD trak was a LIE/XCUSE fa da foolish houseniggaz 2 fall fa but aint no REAL/FIELDNIGGAZ believe that shit.,.,.,.& if that racist cracka feminem can attack & diss & BLK BALL a BLK WOMAN like LAURYN HILL sayin her name is a DIRTY WORD ova a RUMOR of her bein racist against white people back n 99 then a REAL/FIELDNIGGA like me has da rite 2 diss that racist cracka feminem cuz it aint a RUMOR that cracka is a RACIST & therr is 120% I DONT LIKE THAT N1GGA SHIT PROOF!....FEMINEM is a DIRTY WORD 2 me cuz hez a RACIST CRACKA wit RACIST TAPEZ & i dont get down wit racist CRACKAZ & racist white crackaz dont have no biznizz n HIPHOP!

Fair enough, I'll have to check out So Many Styles sometime. Worst case scenario: you're 100% right, and pictures emerge on the internet of 21 year old Eminem rapping in a Klan suit. What happens then? Look what Officer Ricky got away with. I think people today aren't as bothered about street cred as they were say ten years ago.

 

[soul rattler]

For the record, "Lil Whyte" is a hilarious rap name.

 

[Bigavelli]

I don't know. I can't say for certain. I just can't rock with Em whether he is being introspective or not. There are just to many Black artists that resonate and make the type of Music I prefer.

So would you say the main factor is even if he is making Music that is dope with great content the main problem lies with him not being black? fair enough if that's the case as long as you honest

 

[darnold]

So would you say the main factor is even if he is making Music that is dope with great content the main problem lies with him not being black? fair enough if that's the case as long as you honest

Well just introspective isn't going to make the music connect. How can a black man connect with a white rapper reminiscing on how hard it was coming up in a black-dominated industry? That's why Em has so many white fans, because it speaks more directly to them.

 

[Kwan Dai]

So would you say the main factor is even if he is making Music that is dope with great content the main problem lies with him not being black? fair enough if that's the case as long as you honest

There's no problem with him not being Black. In fact there's no problem at all. I just support mine. If, there is a Black Owned business who's product is just as good or better then a white owned business I am going to patronize my folks business. Otherwise who the hell is?