Will America attack/bomb Iran by this or next year??

[kingblaze84]

That peckawood is a beast and ain't no sleep for the wicked.

They want to fool with Syria and then get to messin' with Iran but them a persians got something Hot for them crackas if they wanna catch that fade.

Israel ain't legit, and them Khazzars over there ain't nothing but white boys in the desert doing devilish shit according to their nature.

There is a cancer on this planet that needs to be eradicated Asap

I understand completely what you're saying lol, and Israel definitely is a huge cancer on the world and America's endless support of it is wild crazy when you think about what they are doing to their neighbors. The debates tonight confirmed that Republicans (and Democrats too) don't care how much Americans get hated, as long as Israel's evil policies get supported. It wouldn't bother me as much unless I saw some end coming to it, but it seems that's not gonna be happening in our lifetime. America is fucked and our support of Israel is gonna be one of America's downfalls. Politicians in America are shameless and don't mind bankrupting the country to protect baby Israel, despite it being the richest nation in the Middle East. Pathetic.

 

[kingblaze84]

And yeah I think Israel would be making a big mistake going after Iran. Iran can't beat Israel in a war, but Israel would be in a hella shitstorm for a long time, from nations beyond Iran. And America would go even more bankrupt cleaning Israel's mess, further ruining America's toxic image in the M.E. The scenario seems silly for Israel and America but knowing the leaders of both countries, the dumb is very VERY possible. I give it a 70/30 shot of something popping off by next year. The sanctions are getting beyond desperate and when America or Israel get desperate, people start getting blown the fuck up.

 

[Alkindus]

lol offcourse we're the cool cats jank,

but yeah was pretty much thinking long term 10-40 years approx...the revolutions are still far from over but by then I would expect some sort of new status quo/social democracies with the most basic freedoms most of us here take for granted to be fully operational in most of northern Africa/parts of the mid east and those new governments and free societies would most def make it hard for oppresive regimes like that of Iran, S.Arabia and Israel to function and would seeze to exist. I know it's wishfull thinking....but still, nobody expected the revolutions to take place in the first place...

The fall of those regimes, could also be sooner, take Israel for example, the main reason why they are still up and runnin is because the US got/has their back in the UN etc. Maybe there will be a time that public opinion will turn against Israel in the US and the Isr. lobby groups would lose it grip(replaced by maybe powerfull arab/far eastern lobby groups) just like it happened here in the EU the last decade, I mean 8 years ago you would get frowned upon while critisiing israel and the EU countries would always vote pro Israel, nowadays its the other way around, you get frowned upon if you support Israel. Big difference and that happened in just a few years. There will be a time when even the US is fed up with Israel and considers it a liability...or maybe not.

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Israel cannot defeat Iran in war, they have not got the groundforces whatso ever or the manpower, they can cause serious damage with their missiles/nukes/war jets etc but they could not occupy or dismantle Irans regime/military without the help of Nato/the US/UN. Iran cannot beat Israel in war cause Israel will take the world with them in misery before surrendering to Iran(which has the manpower to occupy Israel plus there are militias/more than enough people that would turn rebels once Israel is weakened and they would mos def attack, think Palestinians/Lebanese who offcourse hold a grudge to Israel.

 

[kingblaze84]

lol offcourse we're the cool cats jank,

but yeah was pretty much thinking long term 10-40 years approx...the revolutions are still far from over but by then I would expect some sort of new status quo/social democracies with the most basic freedoms most of us here take for granted to be fully operational in most of northern Africa/parts of the mid east and those new governments and free societies would most def make it hard for oppresive regimes like that of Iran, S.Arabia and Israel to function and would seeze to exist. I know it's wishfull thinking....but still, nobody expected the revolutions to take place in the first place...

The fall of those regimes, could also be sooner, take Israel for example, the main reason why they are still up and runnin is because the US got/has their back in the UN etc. Maybe there will be a time that public opinion will turn against Israel in the US and the Isr. lobby groups would lose it grip(replaced by maybe powerfull arab/far eastern lobby groups) just like it happened here in the EU the last decade, I mean 8 years ago you would get frowned upon while critisiing israel and the EU countries would always vote pro Israel, nowadays its the other way around, you get frowned upon if you support Israel. Big difference and that happened in just a few years. There will be a time when even the US is fed up with Israel and considers it a liability...or maybe not.

edit:

Israel cannot defeat Iran in war, they have not got the groundforces whatso ever or the manpower, they can cause serious damage with their missiles/nukes/war jets etc but they could not occupy or dismantle Irans regime/military without the help of Nato/the US/UN. Iran cannot beat Israel in war cause Israel will take the world with them in misery before surrendering to Iran(which has the manpower to occupy Israel plus there are militias/more than enough people that would turn rebels once Israel is weakened and they would mos def attack, think Palestinians/Lebanese who offcourse hold a grudge to Israel.

I certainly hope the day occurs when American opinion overwhelmingly turns against Israel. I do hear much more criticism of Israel online and in the real world compared to 5 years ago, even on talk radio. That's a significant change, but politicians still suck Israel's dick every chance they get. It will be a very long time before America's politicians are afraid to diss Israel, considering the Christian evangelicals who still hold a powerful influence in parts of the South and Midwest. It is definitely in vogue to criticize Israel in college campuses though!!

As far as Iran and Israel going to war, I think you're right. Israel could do some severe damage to Iran but it can't conquer its people. Iran in theory could, but it doesn't have the technology and weapons to do so. Never mind America being guaranteed to bomb to hell any nation that dares hurt Israel.

 

[bornnraisedoffCMR]

They surely are beating the drum aren't they? Reminds me of the build up to go to Iraq.

 

[kingblaze84]

Yep the sanctions are coming fast and furious nowadays, despite most of the world completely ignoring them. The powers that be are getting mighty frustrated, but it looks like Russia is talking tough on America now. Just yesterday, Russia said it might blow up American missle sites pointed at Iran. The president of Russia has said those missle sites are a threat to Russia itself.....that kind of talk wasn't heard before, so even Russia is noticing something is up.

http://news.yahoo.com/medvedev-russia-may-target-missile-defense-sites-123047622.html

Russia considers the plans for missile shields in Europe, including in Romania and Poland, to be a threat to its nuclear forces, but the Obama administration insists they are meant to fend off a potential threat from Iran.

Moscow has agreed to consider NATO's proposal last fall to cooperate on the missile shield, but the talks have been deadlocked over how the system should operate. Russia has insisted that the system should be run jointly, which NATO has rejected.

Medvedev also warned that Moscow may opt out of the New START arms control deal with the United States and halt other arms control talks if the U.S. proceeds. The Americans had hoped that the treaty would stimulate progress further ambitious arms control efforts, but such talks have stalled over tension on the missile plans.

"The United States and its NATO partners as of now aren't going to take our concerns about the European missile defense into account," a stern Medvedev said, adding that if the alliance continues to "stonewall" Russia it will take retaliatory action."

 

[kingblaze84]

It looks like Russia is willing to protect Iran from America. Maybe Jank is right, maybe nothing will pop off. A war against Iran with Russia and possibly China getting involved (due to important gasoline exports) is SO not worth it. As much as I criticize Obama, I give him some credit for showing some restraint. Let's see how long that lasts. Cuz under a Republican president, I don't know how much restraint would be shown, based on the comical GOP debates from Tuesday

 

[janklow]

Hey, I'm just asking a serious question. America is constantly putting sanctions on Iran, same thing it did with Iraq in the lead up to war. War might not erupt this minute but something does seem up.

however, the US has been putting sanctions on Iran in one form or another since 1979. so i don't think the "we sanctioned Iraq and then war happened" theory is going to pan out here.

the us has been sending drones into pakistan for a minute now and i know that for a fact i just came back from afghan from a yr long deployment in rc north our mission stop the taliban before they get to pakistan to hide

i don't think anyone considers drones in Pakistan the same thing as "invading Pakistan."

lol offcourse we're the cool cats jank

FINALLY someone admits it

but yeah was pretty much thinking long term 10-40 years approx...the revolutions are still far from over but by then I would expect some sort of new status quo/social democracies with the most basic freedoms most of us here take for granted to be fully operational in most of northern Africa/parts of the mid east and those new governments and free societies would most def make it hard for oppresive regimes like that of Iran, S.Arabia and Israel to function and would seeze to exist. I know it's wishfull thinking....but still, nobody expected the revolutions to take place in the first place...

i don't think saying "in 40 years, Egypt will be functional" is wishful thinking. it's reasonable. thinking it'd be fully functional incredibly quickly would be wishful.

I certainly hope the day occurs when American opinion overwhelmingly turns against Israel.

...and this would be completely counterproductive. Israel's a very frustrating nation, but if American opinion "overwhelmingly turns against it," it's not really going to help resolve the problem.

Maybe Jank is right

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A war against Iran with Russia and possibly China getting involved (due to important gasoline exports) is SO not worth it.

i don't even understand how this could be considered a likely scenario