Why Was Pac's First Album Not Successful as His Last 3?

[juelz21]

cause it seemed like it didnt get alot of radio play for one i remeber hearing brendas got a baby on the radio and was like alrite i like that lol next time it comes on ill try 2 record it cause shit was 91 long before internet so i did what i had to do I do remeber seeing when my homes call a few times on yo mtv raps but wasnt until i get around came out until i found out that was the same guy who songs brendas got a baby..I was 12 i get around put him out there musically to a bigger audience but then all the crazy shit started to happen in his life the rape charges,the shootings,and that took his sales to plantium status dont get me wrong i love his cd but america loves contraverse and gangsta figure been that way since the wild west days and pac album sales reaped the benefits

not that did'nt that sexual assault case his first shooting in new york all happen after his second album when he already sold records and pac was also a movie star at that point too he was in movies like poetic justice and juice pac sold records off of talent not off street credibility

 

[Sovo_Nah]

Trapped
Soulja's story
Violent
If my Homie Call
Rebel of the underground
part time mutha.

all personal classics of mine. people werent really hipped. and pac did come at the end of the black power hiphop rap music era. he still caught that bus but on the next album he went bling and commercial.

 

[usmarin3]

But you cant argue that the music didnt get better. Controversy wasnt the only reason

Not saying he didn't improve, because he definitely did, but to deny that the (cop shooting, rape charges, signing to Death row, beefing with Biggie,etc) didn't take his career to another level is denial. When people think of Pac, they don't only think of his music, they think Biggie beef, Death Row signing, his numerous shootings, shooting at cops, rape charges, prison term,etc.

 

[thesynthesis]

Not saying he didn't improve, because he definitely did, but to deny that the (cop shooting, rape charges, signing to Death row, beefing with Biggie,etc) didn't take his career to another level is denial. When people think of Pac, they don't only think of his music, they think Biggie beef, Death Row signing, his numerous shootings, shooting at cops, rape charges, prison term,etc.

every artist has something attached to them

when mainstream think jay they think beyonce, husband, wife, rocafella drama, def jam ceo, nas etc....

when mainstream think em, they think kim, mother hater, dr dre, psycho, etc

personal life will always play a part for the biggest and best artist...nobody gives a fuck about a borin personality with no character or appeal

but at the end of the day is the MUSIC that keeps you relevant,

Pac was always surrounded by controversy, from his first album to his last.....lets not pretend his first album had no controversy, lets not pretend he wasnt a movie star by his second album and fuckin moddonna, the most talked about bitch on the planet

the music changed CONSIDERABLY , however the controversy was always there with Pac,

If Pac had put out his first album as his 3rd solo album would it still have had the same impact as MATW? i highly doubt it

 

[usmarin3]

every artist has something attached to them

when mainstream think jay they think beyonce, husband, wife, rocafella drama, def jam ceo, nas etc....

when mainstream think em, they think kim, mother hater, dr dre, psycho, etc

personal life will always play a part for the biggest and best artist...nobody gives a fuck about a borin personality with no character or appeal

but at the end of the day is the MUSIC that keeps you relevant,

Pac was always surrounded by controversy, from his first album to his last.....lets not pretend his first album had no controversy, lets not pretend he wasnt a movie star by his second album and fuckin moddonna, the most talked about bitch on the planet

the music changed CONSIDERABLY , however the controversy was always there with Pac,

If Pac had put out his first album as his 3rd solo album would it still have had the same impact as MATW? i highly doubt it

No one is denying that about Jay and Em though!

 

[BIGC129]

not that did'nt that sexual assault case his first shooting in new york all happen after his second album when he already sold records and pac was also a movie star at that point too he was in movies like poetic justice and juice pac sold records off of talent not off street credibility

poetic justice came out 6 months after his 2nd cd was relesed and yes he was involved in sevral incdents before like the fight between his posse and another crew in marin city where a 6yr old got shot in the cross fire that was before his 2nd cd so he was involved in some shit

 

[Stew]

Not saying he didn't improve, because he definitely did, but to deny that the (cop shooting, rape charges, signing to Death row, beefing with Biggie,etc) didn't take his career to another level is denial. When people think of Pac, they don't only think of his music, they think Biggie beef, Death Row signing, his numerous shootings, shooting at cops, rape charges, prison term,etc.

I would questioned that persons fandom if they said he was great because of those things. True I know for sure he does have fans like that but so do Jay, Em, Biggie. Those that are fascinated by the persons personal life rather then the music and will think everything they touch is gold because they got "swag" and or is "hot in the streets". Those artist all have them but some of us actually like to talk about the music which should be the only thing that matters to us fans.

Edit: did not see the previous post with the same comments and points

 

[DanknDrank]

all we ask as true pac fans is don't get the controversy twisted with the music

 

[ustreet_monsta]

Pac owes a lot of his later success to controversy. You can't discount that even if the music improved.

 

[juelz21]

poetic justice came out 6 months after his 2nd cd was relesed and yes he was involved in sevral incdents before like the fight between his posse and another crew in marin city where a 6yr old got shot in the cross fire that was before his 2nd cd so he was involved in some shit

yeah that incident was after his first album came out and juice came out that incident was in 1992 august of 1992 to be exact and juice came out in january 1992 which was 8 months after his success. and he did'nt even get charge with anything breh u don't want to debate with me i will end it quickly lol

 

[DanknDrank]

Pac owes a lot of his later success to controversy. You can't discount that even if the music improved.

thats bullshit if i ever heard it

 

[ustreet_monsta]

thats bullshit if i ever heard it

the numbers dont lie

 

[BIGC129]

pac music would of sold no matter just look how good his cds contiuned to get but its a pac subject so your always gonna get a bunch of different views on how people feel about him.. some people loved him for his music, some loved him for his fuck the world image and hell some for both ..doesnt matter what catagory you fall in as long as you loved pac then and still do thats all that really matters

 

[DanknDrank]

the numbers dont lie

them don't have shit to do wit controversy, we love the music, if it was about the controversy then 50 cent would be going platinum every album

 

[DanknDrank]

pac music would of sold no matter just look how good his cds contiuned to get but its a pac subject so your always gonna get a bunch of different views on how people feel about him.. some people loved him for his music, some loved him for his fuck the world image and hell some for both ..doesnt matter what catagory you fall in as long as you loved pac then and still do thats all that really matters

loved him for both reasons u named

 

[ustreet_monsta]

them don't have shit to do wit controversy, we love the music, if it was about the controversy then 50 cent would be going platinum every album

50 stopped going Platinum after the controversy got stale. If he gets shot tonight, he's going triple platinum tomorrow.

 

[juelz21]

50 stopped going Platinum after the controversy got stale. If he gets shot tonight, he's going triple platinum tomorrow.

lol nobody gives a fukk about anybody getting shot there are plenty of rappers that have got shot and they released a album after that and they sales did'nt go through the rough like u sounding like a real idiot.

 

[H-Rap 180]

because people ignored Emenims first album
because Illmatic was a commercial dissapointment
because Reasonable doubt was a commercial dissapointment

does anybody remember Wayns first album??? I dont.

 

[genocide_cutter]

Befroe death row

 

[frozenheartwjlb]

Nice thread r/t. I think Pac blew up after the first album was one main reason.... His production, he had more commercial beats that people could ride to and party to after that album. And I guess the fact that he was not as much as a social commentator on every song for the following albums. And well he started showing more personality, and more vindication in his voice when he rapped. haha here I said one main reason and went on about three different ones lol...