Why I raise my children without God.

[Copper]

Ahh Yes...but there was a time when there was not proof and if u were to say those things in public ud be put in a straight jacket

But there was reason for someone to come up with those things, there is proof for the claim of a "giant ball of gas", as one just simply needs to look out at. They may not agree w the argument, but the fact that you can point at it and say "that's what I'm talking about", cannot be denied.

Some people claim god is simply the universe, not an actual being. God is a title, that's all. I don't believe in an actual being that is "god", I don't think anything was created. I also don't label things "god" in the universe, things to me are just.

seeing the sun was not proof of what it was...everyone has their own interpretations of what god is and what forms he takes...who are u to tell them their wrong

I dont think the human race is advanced enough to be saying for a fact if omnipotent beings exist or not....we still rage war against one another over money and religion

Your not giving humans much credit.

I'm not saying humans are incapable of error...

but I honestly think that the idea of a supreme being has been elevated to (for whatever reason) an unfathomable incomprehensible level.

for no reason at all... NONE

but if you actually think about how far we have come and how far we have advanced...its ridiculous..

I agree, We our are own worst enemy. We could solve any and every problem in this world ... and the ones we can't solve.. we can prepare for...

but thats to easy.. Humans are a scaredy batch

so...

if there is a supreme being wouldnt he be incomprehensible to us?

 

[Lot86]

aye just keep that shit on the net aight?

Haha, aight bet

 

[VIBE]

So what values,morals, and overall identity are you instilling in your seed .

These can be instilled without a bible, not every culture has had a Christian bible and followed these rules. Not all of them have had the same idea of "god".

One says do not murder, the other requires human sacrifices.

God is different for all people.

I teach my kids good "morals", but it has nothing to do w the bible.

even tho I typed a period it was a question , what values do you instill in your children ? of course you can have

values, morals, and an identity without the bible. What exactly do you consider good morals?

I teach them to love, not hate. That we don't need to agree with a lifestyle, but respect it. Such as homosexuality; I teach them not to hate or slander them, but let it be.

I teach them respect, having responsibility for themselves and their actions. I teach them gratitude. I teach them rights and wrongs.

They're young though, 8 and under, so they haven't grasped all of this yet.

Once in a whole they say "bad" words, I don't get on them much, as I don't see them as "bad" words, but I do let them know that those words offend other people and they won't react like I do, so it's better not to say them as children for now.

 

[ohhhla]

My bad, the ghost that never lies isn't a deity.

So, I will use him to prove my point.

 

[Shuffington]

No disrespect to all my fellow IC constituents but I dont think you understand the POV of an atheist...(using and atheist as an example)

•first of all... to a theist (if your a theist) ANY! and I mean ANY.. big or little criticism against a GOD that you love.. That you've built your life around...will always feel and sound like an attack.

• Secondly...do you realize that atheist are surrounded by theist all damn day .. 75% being christian in the states.. right.. We gotta hear about this God shyt all damn day from everywhere!.. ... We cant escape that shyt... N*ggas be on facebook talking that shyt or praising God at the award shows (like nygga get outta here wts.) We gotta hear that shyt from a bunch of hypocritical mafuckas.... like clearly you obviously in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM live your life Christ like...(all you do is pray when you need some shyt) but who am I to judge.

Its like a black man trying to escape the essence of racism or some shyt.

So yeah it may seem like Atheist are pushy (and some are because theres always a fringe element within a certain group) but nyggas finally can actually speak out without feeling shunned... especially in the Black community where people love them some God and jesus.

"Look at you, emotional."

I'm sorry you feel 'shunned' Lol smh But forreal, that confirms my belief: a lot of atheists carry the burden of ya moms/pastor/priest/religious uncle with you every time you post. Yall asume every Theist looks like this:

Thats some abused woman logic. You grown now! smh Do you, beloved Lol Look around- you're far from a minority in these days n times..ESPECIALLY on the net.

You have me confused with some other pushy atheist.

If theres an opportunity to speak on it then sure... I'll drop a line..

but I typically like to discuss topics like this with adults.

If you drop a joke about my beliefs(or lack there of) that I think is funny.. I will laugh cause to me comedy trumps all...

But from my experiences.. the people who are willing to engage are heading out of the world of cold hearted theism

lol @ being far from a minority...

I dont know what world you live in.

 

[Copper]

whether u believe in god or not u gotta admit the argument that he doesnt exist because bad things happen and we cant see him is a pretty weak stupid argument...

 

[ohhhla]

Supernatural being is made up by humans who thought and still think they're the center of universe by bronze age folks and etc.

People believe in supernatural claims should be laughed at.

Point blank period.

 

[Ajackson17]

plus they real as shit at my church...

one of the Reverends said some shit one day that i'm positive is a rap lyric... she was on some

1 Timothy 2:11-12

Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.

I guess its to be orderly but it does sound like sit down baby maker, that is your primary job in life. That seems lifeless.

 

[The Prodigalson]

whether u believe in god or not u gotta admit the argument that he doesnt exist because bad things happen and we cant see him is a pretty weak stupid argument...

You mean likes chemo patients being cured of cancer and it's a miracle from God even though they under went chemo therapy?

 

[VIBE]

whether u believe in god or not u gotta admit the argument that he doesnt exist because bad things happen and we cant see him is a pretty weak stupid argument...

I can agree that it is, if it is your only reasoning. If you can include other reasons, then I can see a point being made.

My reasoning is simply god itself doesn't make sense, if you use logic on any god, especially the bible god, it cancels itself out.

 

[S2J]

No disrespect to all my fellow IC constituents but I dont think you understand the POV of an atheist...(using and atheist as an example)

•first of all... to a theist (if your a theist) ANY! and I mean ANY.. big or little criticism against a GOD that you love.. That you've built your life around...will always feel and sound like an attack.

• Secondly...do you realize that atheist are surrounded by theist all damn day .. 75% being christian in the states.. right.. We gotta hear about this God shyt all damn day from everywhere!.. ... We cant escape that shyt... N*ggas be on facebook talking that shyt or praising God at the award shows (like nygga get outta here wts.) We gotta hear that shyt from a bunch of hypocritical mafuckas.... like clearly you obviously in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM live your life Christ like...(all you do is pray when you need some shyt) but who am I to judge.

Its like a black man trying to escape the essence of racism or some shyt.

So yeah it may seem like Atheist are pushy (and some are because theres always a fringe element within a certain group) but nyggas finally can actually speak out without feeling shunned... especially in the Black community where people love them some God and jesus.

"Look at you, emotional."

I'm sorry you feel 'shunned' Lol smh But forreal, that confirms my belief: a lot of atheists carry the burden of ya moms/pastor/priest/religious uncle with you every time you post. Yall asume every Theist looks like this:

Thats some abused woman logic. You grown now! smh Do you, beloved Lol Look around- you're far from a minority in these days n times..ESPECIALLY on the net.

You have me confused with some other pushy atheist.

If theres an opportunity to speak on it then sure... I'll drop a line..

but I typically like to discuss topics like this with adults.

If you drop a joke about my beliefs(or lack there of) that I think is funny.. I will laugh cause to me comedy trumps all...

But from my experiences.. the people who are willing to engage are heading out of the world of cold hearted theism

lol @ being far from a minority...

I dont know what world you live in.

Uh, this one:

Poll shows atheism on the rise in the U.S.By Kimberly Winston| Religion News Service,August 13, 2012

Religiosity is on the decline in the U.S. and atheism is on the rise, according to a new worldwide poll.

The poll, called “The Global Index of Religiosity and Atheism,” found that the number of Americans who say they are “religious” dropped from 73 percent in 2005 (the last time the poll was conducted) to 60 percent.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/...519_1_new-atheism-atheist-groups-new-atheists

Yea u right, that 60/40 split must make it a cold, cold world to live in.

 

[Gold_Certificate]

I dont think the human race is advanced enough to be saying for a fact if omnipotent beings exist or not....we still rage war against one another over money and religion

Sure they are yo.

The only thing supporting the claim that "supernatural" beings exist is the claim that "supernatural" beings exist.

If humans applied such circular reasoning to everything, they'd have to be agnostic about an infinite number of claims that others come up with.

 

[Gold_Certificate]

i think carl sagan said it the best i've ever heard

"An atheist is someone who is certain that God does not exist, someone who has compelling evidence against the existence of God. I know of no such compelling evidence..."

His argument fails because the claim of the "supernatural" is an unscientific one. So by the very nature of the claim, evidence can't be compiled for or against it.

Such claims don't automatically get a status quo of "true" or "valid" simply because someone comes up with them.

My reasoning stands correctly and Carl Sagan stands because all you are saying is you have proof of your beliefs in which you don't because you can't see it. Your logical fallacies are showing. All in all is that we don't know because we can't approve or disapprove God exists. Until we can actually travel through hyperspace and know what is there to know about the universe we wouldn't have the capacity to express such a belief is actually true.

I actually said the opposite of this b:

His argument fails because the claim of the "supernatural" is an unscientific one. So by the very nature of the claim, evidence can't be compiled for or against it.

Such claims don't automatically get a status quo of "true" or "valid" simply because someone comes up with them.

Unscientific claims are untestable, so there will never be any proof for or against them.

So the claim that "supernatural" beings exists has the same weight as the claim that a giant objectively unobservable\unmeasurable teapot orbits the sun between Earth and Mars; which has the same weight as any other unscientific claim.

You said it's "arrogant" to dismiss such claims; if so, it is also "arrogant" to consider anything to be "false" or "true".

 

[Copper]

whether u believe in god or not u gotta admit the argument that he doesnt exist because bad things happen and we cant see him is a pretty weak stupid argument...

You mean likes chemo patients being cured of cancer and it's a miracle from God even though they under went chemo therapy?

exactly.... but this is an atheist thread not a why god exist thread

 

[Shuffington]

if there is a supreme being wouldnt he be incomprehensible to us?

Your providing the answer before you even provide the question.

 

[$ineedmoney$]

Have u ever text'd a friend "OMG!" ?

 

[Matt-]

whether u believe in god or not u gotta admit the argument that he doesnt exist because bad things happen and we cant see him is a pretty weak stupid argument...

You mean likes chemo patients being cured of cancer and it's a miracle from God even though they under went chemo therapy?

why would it be considered a miracle if the cure in this example can be perfectly explained through chemotherapy?

 

[Copper]

whether u believe in god or not u gotta admit the argument that he doesnt exist because bad things happen and we cant see him is a pretty weak stupid argument...

I can agree that it is, if it is your only reasoning. If you can include other reasons, then I can see a point being made.

My reasoning is simply god itself doesn't make sense, if you use logic on any god, especially the bible god, it cancels itself out.

if u use logic alot of things in the bible arent logical but its about an all powerful being (if one did exist wouldnt he defy all logic)...plus it was written and re-written by man

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Where is your proof of the mind existing?? None you say? Then it does not exist.

 

[Matt-]

plus they real as shit at my church...

one of the Reverends said some shit one day that i'm positive is a rap lyric... she was on some

1 Timothy 2:11-12

Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.

I guess its to be orderly but it does sound like sit down baby maker, that is your primary job in life. That seems lifeless.

if you just single out this verse and ignore everything else, then yeah, you have a point.