Why I raise my children without God.

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Plap Star;5373800 said:
CopperKing;5373792 said:
Human race cant even travel past their own moon... yet gonna rule out the existence of universal beings

i kinda find it hard to believe its a mothafucka in the sky playin the sims with my life

I find it hard to believe that there is a gigantic ball of gas in space that has been burning for millions of years, a planet so large that that ball of gas cant be seen if next to it or the fact that gigantic meat eating lizards roamed the earth...doest mean it ain't true
 
CopperKing;5373815 said:
Plap Star;5373800 said:
CopperKing;5373792 said:
Human race cant even travel past their own moon... y to bet gonna rule out the existence of universal beings

i kinda find it hard to believe its a mothafucka in the sky playin the sims with my life

I find it hard to believe that there is a gigantic ball of gas in space that has been burning for millions of years, a planet so large that that ball of gas cant be seen if next to it or the fact that gigantic meat eating lizards roamed the earth...doest mean it ain't true

ok believe what you believe

dinosaurs aint real either, but i iant gon get into that

 
CopperKing;5373815 said:
Plap Star;5373800 said:
CopperKing;5373792 said:
Human race cant even travel past their own moon... yet gonna rule out the existence of universal beings

i kinda find it hard to believe its a mothafucka in the sky playin the sims with my life

I find it hard to believe that there is a gigantic ball of gas in space that has been burning for millions of years, a planet so large that that ball of gas cant be seen if next to it or the fact that gigantic meat eating lizards roamed the earth...doest mean it ain't true

There's proof for this though, so if you truly don't believe it (which I know you're using an example, a poor one at that) then you're being ignorant to the proof.
 
Ahh Yes...but there was a time when there was not proof and if u were to say those things in public ud be put in a straight jacket
 
CopperKing;5373843 said:
Ahh Yes...but there was a time when there was not proof and if u were to say those things in public ud be put in a straight jacket

thats just like if a homeless person comes up to you and says he is jesus reincarnated

you gon look at him like he out his fuckin mind
 
I dont think the human race is advanced enough to be saying for a fact if omnipotent beings exist or not....we still rage war against one another over money and religion
 
kai_valya;5373852 said:
Plap Star;5373831 said:
CopperKing;5373815 said:
Plap Star;5373800 said:
CopperKing;5373792 said:
Human race cant even travel past their own moon... y to bet gonna rule out the existence of universal beings

i kinda find it hard to believe its a mothafucka in the sky playin the sims with my life

I find it hard to believe that there is a gigantic ball of gas in space that has been burning for millions of years, a planet so large that that ball of gas cant be seen if next to it or the fact that gigantic meat eating lizards roamed the earth...doest mean it ain't true

ok believe what you believe

dinosaurs aint real either, but i iant gon get into that

get your dumbass outta here

i hope you believe in evolution seeing as you are the missing link

kai i just wanted to troll with the dinosaur shit

but i aint feel like ogin back and forth for hours, i aint that type of poster

so disregard that post
 
Plap Star;5373848 said:
CopperKing;5373843 said:
Ahh Yes...but there was a time when there was not proof and if u were to say those things in public ud be put in a straight jacket

thats just like if a homeless person comes up to you and says he is jesus reincarnated

you gon look at him like he out his fuckin mind

I look at every homeless person like that anyway
 
after reading some of the examples it seems to me that the approach to teaching kids about God is extremely flawed here and that whoever is doing the teaching doesn't even understand what is in the Bible. Its buffet christianity. Christians do this when they just pick out which parts of the bible they like and focus on that and pretend the rest doesn't exist, but i guess even non-christians can be guilty as well.

and even adults who just want to be left alone, don't want to see christianity anywhere, and don't want people talking to them about it have to understand that talking about it, especially to non believers is an essential part of the religion. not separating yourself from it is essential. If its someone's perogative to be left alone why are they the one's who get offended or turned off when a Christian talks about religion to them. Especially since its more than just a perogative, its mandate? Why do you want them to respect you when you don't afford them the same respect? Basically what i'm trying to say is that if you have a COEXIST sticker on your car you just need to drive it off a cliff
 
Ajackson17;5373722 said:
I think saying for certainity a deity doesn't exist is still lying cause you don't know that there is a deity or not. That is hugely arrogant in my book, but I would tell them to look it up for themselves and come up with their own answers and beliefs.
"I think saying for certain that an objectively-unobservable giant, omnipotent, hip-hop horseshoe crab doesn't exist because is still lying because you don't know there is an objectively-unobservable giant, omnipotent, hip-hop horseshoe crab or not."

^^Poor reasoning b.

What's arrogant is thinking that any claim someone makes shouldn't be ruled out simply because part of that claim is that others aren't able to disprove it.
 
kai_valya;5373770 said:
i think carl sagan said it the best i've ever heard

"An atheist is someone who is certain that God does not exist, someone who has compelling evidence against the existence of God. I know of no such compelling evidence..."
His argument fails because the claim of the "supernatural" is an unscientific one. So by the very nature of the claim, evidence can't be compiled for or against it.

Such claims don't automatically get a status quo of "true" or "valid" simply because someone comes up with them.
 
Cain1;5373779 said:
Believes God doesn't exist but doesn't have proof.

Believes God is real and exist but doesn't have proof.

Same group of people no matter how you look at it.
Nah. The bolded group is the one making the unsubstantiated claim.

People that believe Godzilla exists and secretly rules the world aren't the equivalent of people that believe Godzilla is just a fictional being used in various media.
 
CopperKing;5373843 said:
Ahh Yes...but there was a time when there was not proof and if u were to say those things in public ud be put in a straight jacket

But there was reason for someone to come up with those things, there is proof for the claim of a "giant ball of gas", as one just simply needs to look out at. They may not agree w the argument, but the fact that you can point at it and say "that's what I'm talking about", cannot be denied.

Some people claim god is simply the universe, not an actual being. God is a title, that's all. I don't believe in an actual being that is "god", I don't think anything was created. I also don't label things "god" in the universe, things to me are just.
 
CopperKing;5373869 said:
Plap Star;5373848 said:
CopperKing;5373843 said:
Ahh Yes...but there was a time when there was not proof and if u were to say those things in public ud be put in a straight jacket

thats just like if a homeless person comes up to you and says he is jesus reincarnated

you gon look at him like he out his fuckin mind

I look at every homeless person like that anyway

well damn b

very christian of you
 
VIBE;5373743 said:
Saying something exists without any proof is lying, because you have no facts or any basis to fall back on to support your claim.

To claim something doesn't exist, because it doesn't have any factual evidence, isn't lying but the truth.

Atheism = Christian when it comes to facts, saying you don't know if something exist because you can't measure and quantify it would be the best answer. Your five senses don't mean nothing if the theory of dimensions is proven factual and a multiverse exist than there could be much older universes than ours. We don't know anything so we are trying to say this is or that isn't fact when we have no documentation no way to measure it than it belongs in a grey area.
 
CopperKing;5373849 said:
I dont think the human race is advanced enough to be saying for a fact if omnipotent beings exist or not....we still rage war against one another over money and religion

Your not giving humans much credit.

I'm not saying humans are incapable of error...

but I honestly think that the idea of a supreme being has been elevated to (for whatever reason) an unfathomable incomprehensible level.

for no reason at all... NONE

but if you actually think about how far we have come and how far we have advanced...its ridiculous..

I agree, We our are own worst enemy. We could solve any and every problem in this world ... and the ones we can't solve.. we can prepare for...

but thats to easy.. Humans are a scaredy batch

so...

 
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IMO, teaching children the belief in God is about just that.

You teach the belief...keyword being belief...to believe in something.

The belief in God gives many people a purpose to life. Something that needs to be installed in children from a young age. A belief in a purpose.

People who don't believe in God should not force the belief on children.

A modern an impartial parent will lay down all aspects and allow the child to come to their own beliefs as they grow up.

I myself do not go to church but make sure mama takes my kids at least once/twice a month.
 
MC The Rapper;5373890 said:
So what values,morals, and overall identity are you instilling in your seed .

These can be instilled without a bible, not every culture has had a Christian bible and followed these rules. Not all of them have had the same idea of "god".

One says do not murder, the other requires human sacrifices.

God is different for all people.

I teach my kids good "morals", but it has nothing to do w the bible.
 
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