Why Do So Many Blacks think that Black People Can't Be Racist towards whites?

[Stiff]

I'm going to just say this and leave it alone tho:

Not every white person is as powerful as y'all are giving them credit for

and not every Black person is as weak as y'all paint them to be.

 

[willywanker]

There are many racists towards whites on here..

@zzombie @40acresandaMule

Named and shamed fuckers, have a nice evening.

 

[Stiff]

Let me put it this way. We can afford to be completely rigorous and intellectually honest and still win the race argument. White people can't.

This is why black prevarication so troubles me, and why I'm always condemning "lying, confused militants."

The black cause is furthered -- not jeopardized -- by being intellectually honest.

and who gives a shit about white people , we are not supposed to baby them and hold their hand on this issue.

You act like talking sense and being intellectual to racist and those who benefit from racist institutions has worked in the past.

The problem is blacks are still begging to be heard and you dudes wanna play a fair game with a dude whose already a 100 points up by playing dirty , for what ? a moral victories? (and so you can justify why you date or sleep with white women lol). You are not gonna will something that is your earthly right (your freedom) this way, we owe white people nothing.

It is a completely unfounded and unrealistic belief to think that you can be an ethnic group that lives in America and not deal with white people.

Yes but deal with them on our own terms not by their standard ( that should be and i believe has always been the goal) we have had to have compromises and make concessions because they know they got us with that game.

This whole thing all "we'll slavery mustve been part of our fault,well we must bring this on ourselves because part of must be racist, we'll we did bring colonialism to our self' how does it help the black narrative other than just strengthen the white narattive that nothing is wrong with America and the west ?

Is that what I'm saying or is that another straw man?

 

[Stiff]

There are many racists towards whites on here..

@zzombie @40acresandaMule

Named and shamed fuckers, have a nice evening.

I can guarantee two things:

1. They are not negatively effecting your quality of life in any substantial or meaningful way

2. They are not ashamed

 

[A Talented One]

Let me put it this way. We can afford to be completely rigorous and intellectually honest and still win the race argument. White people can't.

This is why black prevarication so troubles me, and why I'm always condemning "lying, confused militants."

The black cause is furthered -- not jeopardized -- by being intellectually honest.

and who gives a shit about white people , we are not supposed to baby them and hold their hand on this issue.

You act like talking sense and being intellectual to racist and those who benefit from racist institutions has worked in the past.

The problem is blacks are still begging to be heard and you dudes wanna play a fair game with a dude whose already a 100 points up by playing dirty , for what ? a moral victories? (and so you can justify why you date or sleep with white women lol). You are not gonna will something that is your earthly right (your freedom) this way, we owe white people nothing.

It is a completely unfounded and unrealistic belief to think that you can be an ethnic group that lives in America and not deal with white people.

Yes but deal with them on our own terms not by their standard ( that should be and i believe has always been the goal) we have had to have compromises and make concessions because they know they got us with that game.

This whole thing all "we'll slavery mustve been part of our fault,well we must bring this on ourselves because part of must be racist, we'll we did bring colonialism to our self' how does it help the black narrative other than just strengthen the white narattive that nothing is wrong with America and the west ?

Wow, just wow. Who is saying that?

I mean, really.

Plus, if I remember correctly, didn't you say (back in the day) that you graduated from Princeton?

Smh. Just disappointing.

 

[willywanker]

There are many racists towards whites on here..

@zzombie @40acresandaMule

Named and shamed fuckers, have a nice evening.

I can guarantee two things:

1. They are not negatively effecting your quality of life in any substantial or meaningful way

2. They are not ashamed

BUT if I was to post the same things they do about my black brothers and sisters I would be banned instantly, and rightfully so!

 

[Ubuntu1]

I agree with your premise that if a black person hates a white person without provocation, then yes, it is racism. Hating someone for oppressing people that look like u for 100s of years does not fall into the same category. I don't unerstand how u don't see the difference. For arguments sake though, let's say every black person in the world admitted that they are racist. What happens now??

I DO see the difference though.

At the bolded then that will be the one thing that Black people will agree on

So what the fuck is the point of this thread?? If u subscribe to the belief that racism is a real concept, that slavery and Jim crow and black laws and previous and current police brutality are very real, how can blacks be racist?? U see the difference in what I outlined but u still think blacks can be racist?? Please explain, because this is starting to look like a troll thread

that slavery and Jim crow and black laws and previous and current police brutality are very real

These are all systemic racism. Systemic racism doesn't encompass ALL of racism. To say that it does is to let plenty of whites who have/had no power to actually do any oppressing off the hook for being racist.

Most white people didn't own slaves…only the elite did. Plenty of whites fought to uphold slavery because they subscribed to the ideology.

The largely poor and uneducated Southerners didn't set the agenda and write the laws for the Black codes and Jim Crow..it was the wealthy landowning elites. But the poor were just a racist as the rich. WTF power do poor whites have? They have perceived power and that's why they go along with it. This idea that Blacks can't be racist because they don't have power feeds into that notion.

And A Black can be racist if he believes that Blacks are a superior race of human. It's simple. If you say a Black person being racist isn't as bad as a white person being racist because it's reactionary and there's no power structure behind it then I'ma say you're absolutely right because again you're arguing against points I'm not making or trying to make.

I was going to GOAT or cosign this until I read the bold. I think it's overlooked by some people that some white people resent 'black people' for the same 'reactionary' reasons that some black people hate 'white people' and part of the problem (in my opinion) is that we think in terms of groups and not invidividuals/individual interactions (if that doesn't sound idiotic). There may be some white people who hate black people out of sheer prejudice, for no other reason than our being different than them or just being unappealing in some way from their point of view (the same is true for some black people, maybe with some anti-white humor that everyone takes for granted, it's not necessarily driven by moral outrage or a desire for revenge against people you feel victimized by) but there are also some who have bad experiences with black people and people of color and/or are tired of the double standards, the more or less socially accepted 'reverse' racism, the stereotypes about white people perpetrated by some black people (including their being racist and the only people who can be racist - which is probably a slap in the face to some white people who have been treated ruthlessly by some black people) and the general ethnic chauvinism and lack of empathy for outgroup members that some black people show. There is a reason why most people who are racist have exceptions and do like and care about some individuals within the groups they despise.

I don't know about entire black countries benefitting from oppressing whites but there was the farm issue in Zimbabwe and, apparently, anti-white affirmative action and crime in South Africa. I also vaguely remember hearing about white women being raped upon independence in the Congo.

 

[zzombie]

There are many racists towards whites on here..

@zzombie @40acresandaMule

Named and shamed fuckers, have a nice evening.

I have a racial outlook on life but i am not racists as i don't believe my race or any race is genetically superior to any other nor do i try and cause any unneeded suffering to any other race of people.

i don't support race mixing and i consider all the other races to be my competition but that does not make me a racist and i am sick and tired of some of you small minded brainwashed leftist idiots call me a racist.

 

[zzombie]

There are many racists towards whites on here..

@zzombie @40acresandaMule

Named and shamed fuckers, have a nice evening.

I can guarantee two things:

1. They are not negatively effecting your quality of life in any substantial or meaningful way

2. They are not ashamed

BUT if I was to post the same things they do about my black brothers and sisters I would be banned instantly, and rightfully so!

What do i post that is so horrible to you??? that the white man is a natural faggot, that i don't fuck white pussy and neither should any other black man. That's what makes me a racist???? FUCK OUT OF HERE

 

[willywanker]

You may not be a racist but you make racist comments, them comments do not offend me I think it's good to speak your mind, I just think it's bullshit that if a white racist joined tomorrow he would be banned, fuck it I am not trying to get into no racial debates I just wanna spark this bush and kill people on gta but my hoe is hogging the t.v, she looks tired and her shitty show is almost done, happy days.

 

[phukkyou2]

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I just think it's bullshit that if a white racist joined tomorrow he would be banned

And in reality if we were to go on Caucasian or Jewish based functions like this one for example and told the truth then the same thing would happen as well. They aren't lettin them in either. You don't see Black Hindus goin hard over at them Politico Forums

 

[LUClEN]

That whole racism = discrimination/prejudice + power thing is bullshit

If one has no power how do they enforce their racist views?

If you subscribe to an ideology that says that it's possible for one race is inherently superior or inferior to another…you're a racist.

If we really want to get abstract anyone who even recognizes arbitrary races is racist

Some trailer park hick from Idaho has no power…so he can't be racist? Nah b.

Not having wealth does not mean one does not have power. Many of the people who opposed the civil rights movement had no money and were dirt poor. This did not prevent them from responding to protest with violence. There are other kinds of power than just money or influence. Violence, sexual coercion, and other forms of persuasion are all methods of control that allow for those who are otherwise powerless to exhibit power.

The problem is white people try to call Black people racist as if Black people's racism = white people's racism

I agree with this wholeheartedly. Just because there are racial prejudices that exist within nonwhite communities does not mean they are similar at all, in magnitude, effect, or anything else.

In all honesty if more Black people were racist, Black America would probably be better off because it would result in increased self-esteem. On the contrary tho…there's probably more Black White Supremacists than there are Black people who are racist.

How aren't supremacists of any race inherently racist? Sounds paradoxical.

 

[PapaDoc223]

Who gives a fuck what white think? You think jews,arabs and asians care what white people think? FOH.

 

[5th Letter]

There are many racists towards whites on here..

@zzombie @40acresandaMule

Named and shamed fuckers, have a nice evening.

I can guarantee two things:

1. They are not negatively effecting your quality of life in any substantial or meaningful way

2. They are not ashamed

BUT if I was to post the same things they do about my black brothers and sisters I would be banned instantly, and rightfully so!

Take your ass to stormfront

 

[usmarin3]

prejudice and racism aren't the same thing imo. Racism is more of a systematic thing where power is required to oppress people. Black people don;t have the power to be racist imo, prejudice yes.

 

[Ilyasah]

This is stupid, as most black people are more racist to each other than anything. A biochemical agent could be let loose that affects all whites, which results in the extermination of all white people, and the next day white supremacy would still reign supreme as most black people believe and practice white supremacy themselves.

 

[The Iconoclast]

When will people realize that the answer to "can blacks be racist against whites" question is actually fairly easy to answer.

The question is simply a debate over semantics - so whatever you're definition of racism is, determines your answer for the aforementioned question.

Both sides can make an argument about the definition of racism that is accepted in academic circles. So this isn't a cut and dry debate because when discussing 'race' there's virtually always an arbitrary element attached.

 

[A Talented One]

When will people realize that the answer to "can blacks be racist against whites" question is actually fairly easy to answer.

The question is simply a debate over semantics - so whatever you're definition of racism is, determines your answer for the aforementioned question.

Both sides can make an argument about the definition of racism that is accepted in academic circles. So this isn't a cut and dry debate because when discussing 'race' there's virtually always an arbitrary element attached.

You're not paying close attention. The definition about racism many use to deny that blacks can be racist has two components: prejudice and power. One response to an argument relying on this is something I said on the first page: Blacks, in some situations and contexts, do have power. So even going by this definition (which I don't actually accept) blacks can be racist.

 

[Like Water]

When will people realize that the answer to "can blacks be racist against whites" question is actually fairly easy to answer.

The question is simply a debate over semantics - so whatever you're definition of racism is, determines your answer for the aforementioned question.

Both sides can make an argument about the definition of racism that is accepted in academic circles. So this isn't a cut and dry debate because when discussing 'race' there's virtually always an arbitrary element attached.

You're not paying close attention. The definition about racism many use to deny that blacks can be racist has two components: prejudice and power. One response to an argument relying on this is something I said on the first page: Blacks, in some situations and contexts, do have power. So even going by this definition (which I don't actually accept) blacks can be racist.

You're talking about the fringe elements that have no bearing on the whole, and in those instances, they're simply that; fringe elements. They are the exception, and not of the normal variety. How you're using the exception to apply to a well-documented generalization is fruitless. And the fact that no one has called you and @Stiff out on this bullshit is crazy.

White people have never been oppressed by anyone other than other white people. How many white people will be denied jobs because of their names? How many innocent white children will be gunned down by the police because they're white?

And even if by chance these things somehow occur, they are literally a "one drop in an ocean annually" occurrence.

If you are basing your argument on these premises, then you have no argument.

 

[D0wn]

A mf thinking they are superior because they are a certain race don't mean shit, unless they're race can and have systematically oppressed others because of their supposed superiority. That's racism, anything else is harmless prejudice in that it doesn't affect your life.

Wtf I care if some redneck with no real power thinks they are better than me? Issue arises when a person or persons in power uses that belief to Cray systems and institutions to disadvantage people based on their prejudice.

And if you can't understand this simple concept, either you are deliberately being dense our obtuse, or you are beyond mentally retarded.

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