Why Do So Many Blacks think that Black People Can't Be Racist towards whites?

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I don't necessarily disagree with defining racism as racial prejudice + power (which plays out as racial discrimination) but very people have no power at all (the only people who have absolutely no social power are those who are completely paralyzed and incapable of interacting with the external world and even they have some power over themselves, they have a choice in how they deal with their situation). Power is what you can do (or alternatively the influence you have over other people and things). Even most slaves had the physical power to harm some innocent white people and thus to discriminate against them even if they lacked the same legal rights as whites and their racism would be punished.

If a person is white in America, society automatically gives them more power than blacks.

What does that mean, specifically? 'Society' is comprised of individuals so you're really arguing that if a person is white in the U.S, other people give them more power than they give to black people. Do you mean politicians and the citizens who vote them into office, teachers, police officers, sanitation workers, nurses, celebrities, who? What power do white civilians have that black police officers, black judges and black politicians don't have? What can they do that black civilians can't? The idea of white and male privilege (which definitely exists, in some circumstances, I just don't believe that whites and males are systematically privileged or that people of color and women never are) is so vague and 'abstract' to me, it doesn't refer to any specific concrete thing. The Zebra killings in the 1970s carried out by the Death Angels (if I remember correctly) is an example of anti-white racism carried out by black people. If a radical group of white civilians randomly killed people of color walking around in public it would be an indisputable act of racism. If black people do the exact same thing, it's not a legitimate example of racism because they, as black men, lacked the power to be racist ; not to kill people but to be 'racist'. This only works with a concept of 'racism' that is just so detached from the actual conrete world involving specific situations and circumstances and not just completely abstract ideas espoused by 'liberal' academics. Even if it wasn't 'racism', why would racism be any worse? Either way, people were killed because of their race (or assumed ethnicity, some of the victims were actually Middle Eastern, if I remember right).

The problem is white people try to call Black people racist as if Black people's racism = white people's racism

That's obviously bullshit because if every single Black person were to wake up and be racist towards whites…white people wouldn't be held back in any way.

I don't think there's a fundamental difference but I would agree that black people, 'as a group', are vulnerable to widespread white racism in a way that white people aren't to black racism because white people are the majority in Western countries.

Our feelings are reactionary to a large degree.

I think some white people resent 'black people' for some of the same reasons that some black people resent 'white people' (bad personal experiences, double standards and negative stereotypes about them perpetrated by out-group members,). At least, "society" is, on paper, sympathetic to anti-black racism ; it's not generally considered politically correct.

Can you, as a Black person or any other minority, degrade another race to the point where it affects your (do you mean their?) job, where you (they?) live, where your (their?) child can attend school?? Do you, as a Black person control how other races can be portrayed via big market media?? Are u as a Black person, able to be as rambunctious, hood, loud, etc. without your personal actions being a reflection of your race as a whole??

To some extent, yes. White people can be the victims of these things.
 
Ubuntu1;8157008 said:
I don't necessarily disagree with defining racism as racial prejudice + power (which plays out as racial discrimination) but very people have no power at all (the only people who have absolutely no social power are those who are completely paralyzed and incapable of interacting with the external world and even they have some power over themselves, they have a choice in how they deal with their situation). Power is what you can do (or alternatively the influence you have over other people and things). Even most slaves had the physical power to harm some innocent white people and thus to discriminate against them even if they lacked the same legal rights as whites and their racism would be punished.

If a person is white in America, society automatically gives them more power than blacks.

What does that mean, specifically? 'Society' is comprised of individuals so you're really arguing that if a person is white in the U.S, other people give them more power than they give to black people. Do you mean politicians and the citizens who vote them into office, teachers, police officers, sanitation workers, nurses, celebrities, who? What power do white civilians have that black police officers, black judges and black politicians don't have? What can they do that black civilians can't? The idea of white and male privilege (which definitely exists, in some circumstances, I just don't believe that whites and males are systematically privileged or that people of color and women never are) is so vague and 'abstract' to me, it doesn't refer to any specific concrete thing. The Zebra killings in the 1970s carried out by the Death Angels (if I remember correctly) is an example of anti-white racism carried out by black people. If a radical group of white civilians randomly killed people of color walking around in public it would be an indisputable act of racism. If black people do the exact same thing, it's not a legitimate example of racism because they, as black men, lacked the power to be racist ; not to kill people but to be 'racist'. This only works with a concept of 'racism' that is just so detached from the actual conrete world involving specific situations and circumstances and not just completely abstract ideas espoused by 'liberal' academics. Even if it wasn't 'racism', why would racism be any worse? Either way, people were killed because of their race (or assumed ethnicity, some of the victims were actually Middle Eastern, if I remember right).

The problem is white people try to call Black people racist as if Black people's racism = white people's racism

That's obviously bullshit because if every single Black person were to wake up and be racist towards whites…white people wouldn't be held back in any way.

I don't think there's a fundamental difference but I would agree that black people, 'as a group', are vulnerable to widespread white racism in a way that white people aren't to black racism because white people are the majority in Western countries.

Our feelings are reactionary to a large degree.

I think some white people resent 'black people' for some of the same reasons that some black people resent 'white people' (bad personal experiences, double standards and negative stereotypes about them perpetrated by out-group members,). At least, "society" is, on paper, sympathetic to anti-black racism ; it's not generally considered politically correct.

Can you, as a Black person or any other minority, degrade another race to the point where it affects your (do you mean their?) job, where you (they?) live, where your (their?) child can attend school?? Do you, as a Black person control how other races can be portrayed via big market media?? Are u as a Black person, able to be as rambunctious, hood, loud, etc. without your personal actions being a reflection of your race as a whole??

To some extent, yes. White people can be the victims of these things.

Holy shit, this long af
 
Stiff;8156977 said:
atribecalledgabi;8156961 said:
Stiff;8156730 said:
Trillfate;8156707 said:
Brother_Five;8156640 said:
oh... u going full Dominicoon? who got to u!?

Yesterday's thread was funny... but this worries me bruh

lmao stay with me bro…this thread is actually a counter attack of a right wing talking point that gets thrown around

I'm following you..

Black Supremacy is a real ideology and it's racist

but I'm not following you...

Like look at those Black Israelites that stand on the streets and yell at white people as they walk by. Those are Black Supremacists.

Black Supremacy is a philosophy that is under the umbrella and influence of White Supremacy. It is a direct result of White Supremacy.

Right wingers tend to say things like "Blacks are more racist than whites" and that's obviously false when most Blacks are interested in integrating with whites and gaining their acceptance.

those black "supremists" are not going around killing white people to further their race.

they are not planning a race war and preparing in woods, and forming militias.

yelling at someone? really?

you are comparing yelling to globally doing everything in a persons power to keep someone from reaching an even level.
 
2stepz_ahead;8157032 said:
Stiff;8156977 said:
atribecalledgabi;8156961 said:
Stiff;8156730 said:
Trillfate;8156707 said:
Brother_Five;8156640 said:
oh... u going full Dominicoon? who got to u!?

Yesterday's thread was funny... but this worries me bruh

lmao stay with me bro…this thread is actually a counter attack of a right wing talking point that gets thrown around

I'm following you..

Black Supremacy is a real ideology and it's racist

but I'm not following you...

Like look at those Black Israelites that stand on the streets and yell at white people as they walk by. Those are Black Supremacists.

Black Supremacy is a philosophy that is under the umbrella and influence of White Supremacy. It is a direct result of White Supremacy.

Right wingers tend to say things like "Blacks are more racist than whites" and that's obviously false when most Blacks are interested in integrating with whites and gaining their acceptance.

those black "supremists" are not going around killing white people to further their race.

they are not planning a race war and preparing in woods, and forming militias.

yelling at someone? really?

you are comparing yelling to globally doing everything in a persons power to keep someone from reaching an even level.

You just proved my point bro and dug out what I was getting at. The MOST hateful Black people (hateful towards whites)…ALL they do is stand on street corners and yell at people as they walk by.

The MOST hateful of white people (hateful towards Blacks)…form mobs…lynch Blacks…run in churches massacre Blacks…bomb churches…set churches on fire…become police officers and kill blacks…become judges and literally sell black defendants to private prisons etc.

So let's not act like black racists don't exist. Let's put that shit out there and be clear…a Black racist AINT GOT SHIT ON A WHITE RACIST

 
fortyacres&amule;8157038 said:
What are you "new blacks" getting from appeasing white people by saying blacks can/are racists to whites?

You are fuckin worse that all those

"all livesmatter" muthafuckaz.

i agree..

since we did blacks think they can get comfortable?

white people never got comfortable and stay protecting their position or trying to get more power when they own everything already.

but give a nigga a patch of grass an they wanna stop fighting and have a picnic
 
Some of y'all still think that Black people only exist in the United States?

In 2015, y'all still don't know that Black folks exist all over the world?

There's nations that have predominantly Black populations and Black rulers.

Are you suggesting that these leaders don't have ANY power because they're Black?

Are you suggesting that these leaders are physically and psychologically incapable of being racist because they are Black?

Some Blacks have power.

Most Blacks don't exercise that power to discriminate against

other races.
 
Stiff;8156948 said:
manofmorehouse;8156906 said:
Stiff;8156818 said:
S2J;8156783 said:
Just use another term: prejudiced, hateful, suspicious, whatever. We can be all that

But the definition of racism is set in stone and no level of newnigganess will change that. Black people cannot be "racist"

Easy. But...in b4 the 15 page thread

That's the thing tho…it's like Black people have their own special definition of racism…I can dig it tho but let's stop saying incorrect things

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I'm not saying that Black prejudice against whites has nearly the same weight as white racism against blacks or is anywhere near as significant so please don't argue that with me…because that's not what I'm saying.

So what are you saying, exactly?? Your definitions say that people believe one group is better than another. You think Blacks as a whole think Whites are better than us?? Seriously?? Moreover, the definitions assume that their is an unfounded hate, that you see a certain race and go "fuck them". I think we can all agree that Blacks, Native Americans, Mexicans, etc have a real case to not fuck with Whites as a whole. If not hating someone that has enslaved, tried to eradicate, raped your people for generations and act like we're all equal is racist, sign me up as the president of the shit

Bruh…what in the blue hell are you talking about? Take a deep breath.

If I'm Black…and I believe that whites are an inferior race of people…then I'm a racist…by every definition of racism that I've ever seen.

Black Supremacy is a real ideology and it's racist…does it hold white people back the way White Supremacy holds everybody else back? Nah. Black people ruin our own credibility when we try to act like Blacks can't be racist towards white. Let's acknowledge that there are Black racists and then compare the damage to white racists and then tally it up.

Show me your definition of racism and where you get it from.

The definition I provided is on the first page. If that thorough definition is unclear to u, I don't know what to tell u. U being black and thinking you are better than a white person is definitely racist. U feeling hatred towards Whites because of past and present racist shit that has transpired on blacks by whites as a whole (which is why the vast majority of Blacks hate whites) is something different. Agree to disagree, I just find your ideas on racism interesting, to say the least...
 
Stiff;533157 said:
In all honesty if more Black people were racist, Black America would probably be better off because it would result in increased self-esteem. On the contrary tho…there's probably more Black White Supremacists than there are Black people who are racist.

Black people aren't about that anti miscegenation, pro endogamy, anti multiculturalism, pro intolerance, anti diversity, pro hatred "we are pure, superior, and noble; everyone else is hopelessly inferior" life.
 
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fortyacres&amule;8157038 said:
What are you "new blacks" getting from appeasing white people by saying blacks can/are racists to whites?

You are fuckin worse that all those

"all livesmatter" muthafuckaz.

2stepz_ahead;8157047 said:
fortyacres&amule;8157038 said:
What are you "new blacks" getting from appeasing white people by saying blacks can/are racists to whites?

You are fuckin worse that all those

"all livesmatter" muthafuckaz.

i agree..

since we did blacks think they can get comfortable?

white people never got comfortable and stay protecting their position or trying to get more power when they own everything already.

but give a nigga a patch of grass an they wanna stop fighting and have a picnic

^^^ y'all are missing my point like a mf

I want Black people to stop trying to bend and twist definitions. That's not required…we have the moral high ground and are fighting a just fight. You can rely completely on facts and still have the better message. White supremacists and white people in general can't.
 
manofmorehouse;8157059 said:
Stiff;8156948 said:
manofmorehouse;8156906 said:
Stiff;8156818 said:
S2J;8156783 said:
Just use another term: prejudiced, hateful, suspicious, whatever. We can be all that

But the definition of racism is set in stone and no level of newnigganess will change that. Black people cannot be "racist"

Easy. But...in b4 the 15 page thread

That's the thing tho…it's like Black people have their own special definition of racism…I can dig it tho but let's stop saying incorrect things

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I'm not saying that Black prejudice against whites has nearly the same weight as white racism against blacks or is anywhere near as significant so please don't argue that with me…because that's not what I'm saying.

So what are you saying, exactly?? Your definitions say that people believe one group is better than another. You think Blacks as a whole think Whites are better than us?? Seriously?? Moreover, the definitions assume that their is an unfounded hate, that you see a certain race and go "fuck them". I think we can all agree that Blacks, Native Americans, Mexicans, etc have a real case to not fuck with Whites as a whole. If not hating someone that has enslaved, tried to eradicate, raped your people for generations and act like we're all equal is racist, sign me up as the president of the shit

Bruh…what in the blue hell are you talking about? Take a deep breath.

If I'm Black…and I believe that whites are an inferior race of people…then I'm a racist…by every definition of racism that I've ever seen.

Black Supremacy is a real ideology and it's racist…does it hold white people back the way White Supremacy holds everybody else back? Nah. Black people ruin our own credibility when we try to act like Blacks can't be racist towards white. Let's acknowledge that there are Black racists and then compare the damage to white racists and then tally it up.

Show me your definition of racism and where you get it from.

The definition I provided is on the first page. If that thorough definition is unclear to u, I don't know what to tell u. U being black and thinking you are better than a white person is definitely racist. U feeling hatred towards Whites because of past and present racist shit that has transpired on blacks by whites as a whole (which is why the vast majority of Blacks hate whites) is something different. Agree to disagree, I just find your ideas on racism interesting, to say the least...

If you agree with everything I'm saying then why are you arguing against me?
 
fortyacres&amule;8157038 said:
What are you "new blacks" getting from appeasing white people by saying blacks can/are racists to whites?

You are fuckin worse that all those

"all livesmatter" muthafuckaz.

It's not about appeasing anybody. It's about trying to be objection about an argument.
 
fortyacres&amule;8157100 said:
And moreover whose definition of what racism is or has been do yall follow ?

Dictionaries written, explained and defined by The white man.

Whose language do you speak?

The language created, developed, and cultivated by The white man.
 
Stiff;8157111 said:
fortyacres&amule;8157100 said:
And moreover whose definition of what racism is or has been do yall follow ?

Dictionaries written, explained and defined by The white man.

Whose language do you speak?

The language created, developed, and cultivated by The white man.

this is is a dumb talking point
 
AggyAF;8157122 said:
Stiff;8157111 said:
fortyacres&amule;8157100 said:
And moreover whose definition of what racism is or has been do yall follow ?

Dictionaries written, explained and defined by The white man.

Whose language do you speak?

The language created, developed, and cultivated by The white man.

this is is a dumb talking point

How so? How can you accept the language of the white man but then reject his definitions for words within said language?

If we're speaking English then what other definitions are you going to use?
 
Stiff;8157068 said:
fortyacres&amule;8157038 said:
What are you "new blacks" getting from appeasing white people by saying blacks can/are racists to whites?

You are fuckin worse that all those

"all livesmatter" muthafuckaz.

2stepz_ahead;8157047 said:
fortyacres&amule;8157038 said:
What are you "new blacks" getting from appeasing white people by saying blacks can/are racists to whites?

You are fuckin worse that all those

"all livesmatter" muthafuckaz.

i agree..

since we did blacks think they can get comfortable?

white people never got comfortable and stay protecting their position or trying to get more power when they own everything already.

but give a nigga a patch of grass an they wanna stop fighting and have a picnic

^^^ y'all are missing my point like a mf

I want Black people to stop trying to bend and twist definitions. That's not required…we have the moral high ground and are fighting a just fight. You can rely completely on facts and still have the better message. White supremacists and white people in general can't.

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The single most important thing I have been trying to convey on here.

GOATed.
 
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