Why do people act like HBK drew money??

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Wrestling had been in a slump for years post-steroid scandal (1992 somewhere about). Hogan didn't even pick business back up when he returned. Yoko, Diesel they all failed to draw big in that climate. WCW was suffering too, in fact WCW didn't draw shit until the nWo angle happened in mid-96, Hogan had been in WCW for 2 years by then.

So the argument that HBK wasn't a draw, is nonsense. Drawing compared to who? He was a bigger draw than Diesel that's for damn sure and Diesel had a title reign twice as long as Shawn's. The argument that Shawn can't draw was made up by folks who blame him for WWF's slide into mediocrity but the product was shit, and the business climate was also bad. Then to compare Shawn's ability to draw to Hulk fucking Hogan? You kidding me?

Let's be honest, and I ask this question to everyone who makes this argument: Who would you have put the title on?

You just said it yourself Diesel & Bret were no-draws. Undertaker was in & out with injuries so you can't use him. Austin was a nobody until June, HHH was floundering and jobbing so he was nowhere either. They actually gave the belt to Sid, and then he proceeded to not sell out the next few events despite his popularity as well. Bulldog? Owen? Vader is the only other option but he didn't get any momentum til later in 1996.

All this "drawing ability" shit is stupid anyway. As a fan I couldn't care less who draws what.
 
Paul Hate.;490651 said:
I honestly would have bypassed him and focused on HHH and Austin that year instead of that overated junkie.

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HBK wasnt really a money draw tbh....he had no outside appeal or attraction only people that liked him were white hardcore wrestling fans
 
Late 1994 til early 1996 was a dark time for WWF/E....

1995 WWF alumni.

BABYFACE ROSTER

Diesel

Bret Hart

Lex Luger

The Undertaker

Ahmed Johnson

British Bulldog

Razor Ramon

Savio Vega

Bart Gunn

Billy Gunn

Adam Bomb

1-2-3 Kid

Bob Holly

Duke Droese

Fatu

Doink

Fatu

Sionne

Aldo Mantoya

Marty Jannetty

Barry Horrowitz

HEEL ROSTER

Sycho Sid

Shawn Michaels

Bob Backlund

Yokozuna

Owen Hart

Dean Douglas

Jeff Jarrett

Mabel

Mo

Jerry Lawler

Isaac Yankem

Goldust

Bam Bam Bigelow

King Kong Bundy

Tatanka

Irwin R. Shiester

Hakushi

Kama

Skip

Hunter Helmsley

Waylon Mercy

Tom Prichard

Jimmy Del Ray

Jean Pierre Lafitte

Henry Godwinn

Rad Radford

Steven Dunn

Timothy Well.

Buddy Landel

Crush

Mantaur

TAG TEAMS

Million $$ Corp

Owen & Yokozuna

Smoking Gunns

Men on a Mission

Bodydonnas

Allied Powers

Blu Brothers

Headshrinkers

123Kid/Bob Holly

Heavenly Bodies

Well DunnOTHER

Lawrence Taylor

MANAGERS

Ted DiBiase

Jim Cornette

Paul Bearer

Harvey Wippleman

Mr Fuji

The Roadie

Lou Albano

Afa

Shinja

Uncle Zeb

WOMEN

Sunny

Alundra Blaze

Bertha Faye

Aja Kong
 
I think people see him as an amazing talent not amazing draw. Hogan, Flair, Austin, The Rock trascend the sport. Sting, Macho Man and Warrior were borderline trascending In fact, very few trascend the business.

So basically I think overall in ring ability, charsima, on the mic, and as far as all around HBK will be a GOAT to alot of people n not necesarilly as someone who sold the most nerchandise. Lets not get the perception confused. We are all huge fans of his work as real wrestling fans n not for the business side of shit.
 
CopperKing;5515358 said:
HBK wasnt really a money draw tbh....he had no outside appeal or attraction only people that liked him were white hardcore wrestling fans

^exactly.He was a product of the WWF hype machine.
 
niggas really disrespecting the goat hbk, when the entire industry was down, sid vicious and diesel certainly werent doin their thing, disgusting, hbk had to be at least a decent draw and one of the best in ring ever, matter fact, who judges their favorite wrestler on drawing ability?
 
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I dont got time to bring up ppv orders,ticket sales at those same ppv's or shit like that.Just google.Bret was ok to slight above okay as a draw cuz of canada,the uk and germany love him like crazy.

But HBK aint draw shit.Him and deisel almost put them out of business.
 
I think Cena has somewhat transcended the business..in a minor way.He's a minor crossover celebrity for wrestling.

He's the most popular wrestler in the last 10 years basically no one comes close.
 

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