Why Do Down South Cats Like and Support Garbage Rappers?

[CashmoneyDux]

I was talking about some real shit tho. you can't deny that!!! Lol at some niggaz. some of ya'll need to read a book. or some shit anyways.

And Nigga you need to take an English class, Gotdamn that titangraph was littered with so many grammatical errors that I thought Dro wrote it.

 

[A1000MILES]

Lol...While I can understand that experience...It's sad that some of y'all niggas would have to come down to Atlanta and get drunk in a club...Just to een conceptualize why that music sounds like it does and why niggas like it...Lmao...

 

[P. Town]

No matter how many Brooklyn t-shirts DJ Premier wear he from down South and will forever be from down South. Not no, he was born in Texas and moved to New York when he was 5, that man started his Djing career in Texas. So you NY niggas and all that Hip-Hop roo-rah ya'll love so much, the South did that. Even if we don't respect DJ Premier cause he a fuck nigga, the South did that

 

[Lil Silent]

I was talking about some real shit tho. you can't deny that!!! Lol at some niggaz. some of ya'll need to read a book. or some shit anyways.

And Nigga you need to take an English class, Gotdamn that titangraph was littered with so many grammatical errors that I thought Dro wrote it.

lol my nigga I've been to college already, Pardon me on my grammatical errors. Sorry about that homes.

 

[CashmoneyDux]

No matter how many Brooklyn t-shirts DJ Premier wear he from down South and will forever be from down South. Not no, he was born in Texas and moved to New York when he was 5, that man started his Djing career in Texas. So you NY niggas and all that Hip-Hop roo-rah ya'll love so much, the South did that. Even if we don't respect DJ Premier cause he a fuck nigga, the South did that

Brah how the hell did damobb2deep give you two reactions?

 

[BackInWhite]

i bet genstasia got some fat cute light skin feet

 

[damobb2deep]

No matter how many Brooklyn t-shirts DJ Premier wear he from down South and will forever be from down South. Not no, he was born in Texas and moved to New York when he was 5, that man started his Djing career in Texas. So you NY niggas and all that Hip-Hop roo-rah ya'll love so much, the South did that. Even if we don't respect DJ Premier cause he a fuck nigga, the South did that

Brah how the hell did damobb2deep give you two reactions?

yea, somebody explain that.

If u on yo cell phone and u have bad reception you can press 2 reactions and they will both go thru..

 

[BackInWhite]

i wanted to give runningwolf 2 reactions no homo

he was cool about me callin him chief sucksalot

that's real nigga shit

 

[ohhhla]

Niggas riding for the south because that's where they are from.

Most southerners have terrible taste.

You got niggas thinking Toomp>>> Premo

Wu Tang sucks, KRS-1 is trash and etc

They put their whole emotional behind this.

Now BDK Isn't that nice lyrically.

Y'all delusional

Niggas still stating they opinions as facts.

Point out where I stated something as a fact.

Fuck outta here.

You just have bad taste, that is all.

That's not a fact.

A fact is something you can confirmed.

I didn't say "It's a fact that southerners have bad taste."

I said in general y'all do.

 

[BackInWhite]

Niggas riding for the south because that's where they are from.

Most southerners have terrible taste.

You got niggas thinking Toomp>>> Premo

Wu Tang sucks, KRS-1 is trash and etc

They put their whole emotional behind this.

Now BDK Isn't that nice lyrically.

Y'all delusional

Niggas still stating they opinions as facts.

Point out where I stated something as a fact.

Fuck outta here.

You just have bad taste, that is all.

That's not a fact.

A fact is something you can confirmed.

I didn't say "It's a fact that southerners have bad taste."

I said in general y'all do.

shut up, nigga

 

[Knives Amilli]

Ima say this:

The South gets a lot of criticism from me because it seems like they let a lot of niggas get airplay off of something as fucking retarded as street cred/hood love. Jeezy really started this shit but you can name a good amount of niggas who honestly are subpar and one dimensional, yet have deep and/or growing fanbases. Gucci, Flocka, Webbie, Boosie, Future, Rocko, Yo Gotti, Scooter, etc....

Most of these niggas are fucking interchangeable with one another, aint really saying nothing we haven't heard before, aren't particularly skilled or innovative, yet are some of the most popular artists in the South (honestly I will give Boosie his props, he has more substance than the rest of 'nem).

Like lets keep it real: you ask an average Gucci fan exactly WHY they listen to this nigga, I bet money the typical answer would be something along the lines off:

"gucci be talking that "real shit". "That hood shit". "that dboy shit"

And no offense, but i cant support a nigga off of that alone. The South seems to have this idea about supporting Dboys and hood niggas because somewhere along the lines of Black history down there, hood niggas became the heroes/boys next door. And everyone likes to support the regional hero.

The problem is that this is to the detriment of legit, skillful, and artistic MC's. Niggas like Currensy, Krit, Cole, Ross to an extent, Little Brother, shit ill even throw OutKast in there....these niggas and more don't really get that love like that from modern southern audiences because they aint about that club/hood shit.

Meanwhile in the East Coast (since that seems to be where the comparison is made 9/10), MOST of the bigger acts have had to sell their skill first as MC's, then all of the other irrelevant details about their street/personal life take center stage. Aint nobody except hardcore fans give a shit about Jay, Beans, Free, Cass, X, Biggie, Nas's, Cams, Fabs, Banks, etc. street life; these niggas sold themselves as MC's/artists first and foremost.

Only East Coast niggas you can really make an exception for are 50 ( who was marketed as the ULTRA THUG who was found and tamed and trained by Dre and Em), French (who up until linking up with KhaledRoss/Brick Squad/Diddy was just a nigga riding the last of the Dipset/Max B wave) and ASAP Rocky (who is a beneficiary of the "new" cross cultural, hipster, vibe in Hip Hop and a Drake cosign).

 

[A1000MILES]

^ Wow, that's some bullshit...

 

[Knives Amilli]

^ Wow, that's some bullshit...

counter argument then?

 

[A1000MILES]

^ Wow, that's some bullshit...

counter argument then?

"Let a lotta niggas get airplay off street cred"

...You just described southern California's whole market...The gangsta rap mainstream phase ain't start in the south...

"And no offense, but I can't support a nigga off that alone"

...So, you can't support a nigga that you completely relate to, simply cause his rhyme scenes and subject matter aren't complex?...If you love a song cause it hits you, but the rapper isn't "skilled", you shun it?...

"The problem is that's to the detriment of legit, skillful mc's"

...Outkast, TI, Ludacris, UGK, Scarface, David Banner, Chamillionaire, Trick Daddy, Wayne, Juvenile, Young Buck, J Cole, Nappy Roots...Have all sold more records than Gucci, Waka, Boosie, SouljaBoy, etc...So what is this support you speak of?...Support on the club scene?...In the south, the club is a large part of our culture, and certain music goes with it...Artists who make that type of music well can buzz all around the region, cause when we in a party mood that's what we wanna hear...Iono nobody that listens to club music all damn day...Plus, the only reason that those type of artists een get on YOUR radar is cause folk outside the south begin to play the records and talk about em...

"In the east coast, most the bigger acts had to sell they skills first as emcees"

Your comparison is off...Any southern artist in the same lane as those northern artists you mentioned had to do the same displaying of skills...They didn't initially have huge club/radio singles that got them popping nationwide...Their whole thing was "Look how well I can rap! Look at the different subject matter I touch on!"...A nigga in a club lane doesn't make music for that same purpose...It's "Listen to this shit when you in your party mode! Get money, fuck bitches, smoke blunts, pop bottles! Oh, I can rap cool too. But I know that's not what you focused on right now. Aw shit, the hook comin back!"....That goes for any region...There's rappers who care more bout showin off their skills, and rappers who care more bout making songs that cater to a certain lifestyle...AND Beans, Freeway, Cass, and Banks didn't get on cause they were just so nice...They were nice niggas attached to famous niggas...

 

[Splackavelli]

Same reason yall grew up on this cornball nigga.

i'm from Miami and I like his shit

 

[nj2089]

Grown ass man saying OMG smh

Nigga follow your screen name, be silent, shut da fuck up, log off, get out your feelings, and go reevaluate your life

Damn man

 

[Cutler 26 INT's LOL!]

I remember back when niggas on here thought "Beamer, Benz and Bently's" would bring NY back...

I dont think I laughed so hard ever in my life...

 

[S2J]

Im from the DMV and visited Atlanta this past wekend and it all makes sense. Them nggas get it in! Lol

I never heard 'turn up' so much in my life...but then the DJ came on and said some new shyt:

"TURN DOWN FOR WHAT!?"

Lol Its party music and it gets nggas hype. I get it now.

We been saying "turn down 4 what" 4 a min now...

 

[Knives Amilli]

"Let a lotta niggas get airplay off street cred"

...You just described southern California's whole market...The gangsta rap mainstream phase ain't start in the south...

At what point did I say that this was a behavior unique to the South? Also look at the MODERN So.Cal Rap scene: The hottest MC's coming out of that region aren't as tethered to gangbanging as they've been in the past. Schoolboy Q and Jay Rock are the only ones I can think off and even then; their whole schtick/image isn't completely defined and necessitated by a history of gangbanging, at least IMO.



"And no offense, but I can't support a nigga off that alone"

...So, you can't support a nigga that you completely relate to, simply cause his rhyme scenes and subject matter aren't complex?...If you love a song cause it hits you, but the rapper isn't "skilled", you shun it?...

Your goddamn right I wont support a nigga thats a mediocre rapper. THIS SHIT ISN'T FUCKING HARD. 9/10 when niggas suck at rapping? Its due to a hilariously bad mix of lyricism or flow, lack of imagination, empty or one dimensional subject matter and/or glorification of some shit that I personally think is retarded....

For the most part if you suck at rapping, its probably because your not TRYING hard enough. I'll be damned if I reward mediocrity. Do I like some songs by some quote unquote bad rappers? Sure. Guys like Waka, scooter, etc. at points make a record that while composed of their usual bullshit, resonates with my taste. And a broken clock is right twice a day. Point is, i'm not some rap elitist; most of the niggas I outright dislike have some common denominator (usually a lack of subject matter). At some point, in art or sports or whatever, you draw a line at whats acceptable. Lets not act like ALL OF A SUDDEN, there's no general consensus of whats a quality artist/record in hip hop and what isn't.

"The problem is that's to the detriment of legit, skillful mc's"

...Outkast, TI, Ludacris, UGK, Scarface, David Banner, Chamillionaire, Trick Daddy, Wayne, Juvenile, Young Buck, J Cole, Nappy Roots...Have all sold more records than Gucci, Waka, Boosie, SouljaBoy, etc...So what is this support you speak of?...Support on the club scene?...In the south, the club is a large part of our culture, and certain music goes with it...Artists who make that type of music well can buzz all around the region, cause when we in a party mood that's what we wanna hear...Iono nobody that listens to club music all damn day...Plus, the only reason that those type of artists een get on YOUR radar is cause folk outside the south begin to play the records and talk about em...

Key words here are "MODERN SOUTHERN AUDIENCES". I even gave a general timeline when I referred to Young Jeezy, whose early success was hugely in part based upon on him being a street nigga.......................

"In the east coast, most the bigger acts had to sell they skills first as emcees"

Your comparison is off...Any southern artist in the same lane as those northern artists you mentioned had to do the same displaying of skills...They didn't initially have huge club/radio singles that got them popping nationwide...Their whole thing was "Look how well I can rap! Look at the different subject matter I touch on!"...A nigga in a club lane doesn't make music for that same purpose...It's "Listen to this shit when you in your party mode! Get money, fuck bitches, smoke blunts, pop bottles! Oh, I can rap cool too. But I know that's not what you focused on right now. Aw shit, the hook comin back!"....That goes for any region...There's rappers who care more bout showin off their skills, and rappers who care more bout making songs that cater to a certain lifestyle...AND Beans, Freeway, Cass, and Banks didn't get on cause they were just so nice...They were nice niggas attached to famous niggas...

At the bolded: And ultimately that seems to be a huge part of what we're arguing here. Ultimately what *I'M* saying is that the South props niggas up in the club/hood lane as the guys carrying your region. I think thats a fucking problem and reflects bad on Southern rap music. Look at other regions: The West has propped Kendrick Lamar/Black Hippy up as those guys. The Midwest has Ye, Big Sean, Em, Cudi, MGK. NY......well NY has yet to turn out a true all around star since the guys from Jay/Nas's era; closest thing is ASAP Rocky and maybe French......My point is that most of these niggas are the guys who are carrying their region and are far more skilled and versatile as artists and MC's than all those other Southern niggas I named.....And these guys aren't defined by making club/street shit. Only in the South do you damn well HAVE to cater to that crowd to get any love. Otherwise, tell me a non-hood/club rapper from the South that gets alotta love from the streets, at least on par with say Gucci.

 

[runningwolf1980]

"Let a lotta niggas get airplay off street cred"

...You just described southern California's whole market...The gangsta rap mainstream phase ain't start in the south...

At what point did I say that this was a behavior unique to the South? Also look at the MODERN So.Cal Rap scene: The hottest MC's coming out of that region aren't as tethered to gangbanging as they've been in the past. Schoolboy Q and Jay Rock are the only ones I can think off and even then; their whole schtick/image isn't completely defined and necessitated by a history of gangbanging, at least IMO.



"And no offense, but I can't support a nigga off that alone"

...So, you can't support a nigga that you completely relate to, simply cause his rhyme scenes and subject matter aren't complex?...If you love a song cause it hits you, but the rapper isn't "skilled", you shun it?...

Your goddamn right I wont support a nigga thats a mediocre rapper. THIS SHIT ISN'T FUCKING HARD. 9/10 when niggas suck at rapping? Its due to a hilariously bad mix of lyricism or flow, lack of imagination, empty or one dimensional subject matter and/or glorification of some shit that I personally think is retarded....

For the most part if you suck at rapping, its probably because your not TRYING hard enough. I'll be damned if I reward mediocrity. Do I like some songs by some quote unquote bad rappers? Sure. Guys like Waka, scooter, etc. at points make a record that while composed of their usual bullshit, resonates with my taste. And a broken clock is right twice a day. Point is, i'm not some rap elitist; most of the niggas I outright dislike have some common denominator (usually a lack of subject matter). At some point, in art or sports or whatever, you draw a line at whats acceptable. Lets not act like ALL OF A SUDDEN, there's no general consensus of whats a quality artist/record in hip hop and what isn't.

"The problem is that's to the detriment of legit, skillful mc's"

...Outkast, TI, Ludacris, UGK, Scarface, David Banner, Chamillionaire, Trick Daddy, Wayne, Juvenile, Young Buck, J Cole, Nappy Roots...Have all sold more records than Gucci, Waka, Boosie, SouljaBoy, etc...So what is this support you speak of?...Support on the club scene?...In the south, the club is a large part of our culture, and certain music goes with it...Artists who make that type of music well can buzz all around the region, cause when we in a party mood that's what we wanna hear...Iono nobody that listens to club music all damn day...Plus, the only reason that those type of artists een get on YOUR radar is cause folk outside the south begin to play the records and talk about em...

Key words here are "MODERN SOUTHERN AUDIENCES". I even gave a general timeline when I referred to Young Jeezy, whose early success was hugely in part based upon on him being a street nigga.......................

"In the east coast, most the bigger acts had to sell they skills first as emcees"

Your comparison is off...Any southern artist in the same lane as those northern artists you mentioned had to do the same displaying of skills...They didn't initially have huge club/radio singles that got them popping nationwide...Their whole thing was "Look how well I can rap! Look at the different subject matter I touch on!"...A nigga in a club lane doesn't make music for that same purpose...It's "Listen to this shit when you in your party mode! Get money, fuck bitches, smoke blunts, pop bottles! Oh, I can rap cool too. But I know that's not what you focused on right now. Aw shit, the hook comin back!"....That goes for any region...There's rappers who care more bout showin off their skills, and rappers who care more bout making songs that cater to a certain lifestyle...AND Beans, Freeway, Cass, and Banks didn't get on cause they were just so nice...They were nice niggas attached to famous niggas...

At the bolded: And ultimately that seems to be a huge part of what we're arguing here. Ultimately what *I'M* saying is that the South props niggas up in the club/hood lane as the guys carrying your region. I think thats a fucking problem and reflects bad on Southern rap music. Look at other regions: The West has propped Kendrick Lamar/Black Hippy up as those guys. The Midwest has Ye, Big Sean, Em, Cudi, MGK. NY......well NY has yet to turn out a true all around star since the guys from Jay/Nas's era; closest thing is ASAP Rocky and maybe French......My point is that most of these niggas are the guys who are carrying their region and are far more skilled and versatile as artists and MC's than all those other Southern niggas I named.....And these guys aren't defined by making club/street shit. Only in the South do you damn well HAVE to cater to that crowd to get any love. Otherwise, tell me a non-hood/club rapper from the South that gets alotta love from the streets, at least on par with say Gucci.

^what in the fuck?