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Peezy_Jenkins;5791240 said:Jamaica;5791231 said:Peezy_Jenkins;5791212 said:no need to blame lil jon for non rappin ass niggas, there were many before him
There were but they were perceived as jokes or novelty acts. rappers like mc hammer, vanilla ice, marky mark, tag team, quad city dj's were mostly novelty acts and weren't taken serious. gucci mane is treated as a serious artist, so was lil jon etc.
yea, gucci mane and lil jon are treated as serious entities, but so is asap rocky and jim jones tho, just cuz gucci mane isnt the conventional lyricist, doesnt make him wack and just cuz asap rocky is from another region doesnt mean he's above avg.
Jamaica;5791251 said:P. Town;5791226 said:Jamaica;5791176 said:P. Town;5791143 said:What is being wack though Jamaica?
Where are these rules at?
Back in the days the rules were that you had to be dope lyrically. This is not even a south vs east thing, because a lot of southern rappers from back in the days like 8ball and mjg, outkast, scarface, goodie mob abided by these rules of spitting dope lyrics. Then once Lil Jon popped he gave non rapping ass niggas the confidence to pick up the mic, and with the south backing anything that's how they got hot.
wack is Gucci Mane.
Bruh, shut up. You niggas like simple ass niggas like Guru and ODB, but the rule was you had to be dope lyrically
You niggas say Legal Drug Money is a classic, but Mr Cheeks weak ass the only nigga rapping on that shit
War Report is a classic to ya'll, but Noreaga is on every song
Lil Cease has a solo album, but the rule was you had to be dope lyrically
Guru, ODB, Mr Cheeks and Nore weren't lyricists. You got things confused no one is saying you have to be a lyricist, no one is saying that if you're not lyrical then you're wack. Guru wasn't lyrical but he wasn't wack, Cheeks, (90's) Nore etc were decent rappers.
KingJamal;5791263 said:Any nigga who listens to Papoose can't tell me shit
Bucket Nekkit lmaooo
Plap Star;5791262 said:its crazy how niggas say gucci mane is wack then in the same breath say odb is a legend
cmon b
even tho i agree that now, gucci mane aint really shit, but his old shit tho........
its just trap nigga gospel, we like it cause we can relate to it
yall aint gon relate to it up north cause its a totally different vibe up there
yall like dark and dirty shit cause up north its dark and dirty and fast livin, everybody close together like rats
down south everybody got yards and shit, its sunny outside, we can sit in the trap all day, our fast livin is not as fast as ny
we happy cause we livin in paradise, when you compare it to up north, so we make happy music
look at most of wu tang videos, these niggas in alleys and shit around barrels of fire
now look at southern videos around that same time, we havin cookouts and car shows with bitches dancing
nigga we like to party and our music reflects that
BlackAX410;5791281 said:NYC wackness:
Bay Area wackness:
lls some of yall actin like wackness only is in da south nd its not subjective is hilarious
Gen. Stasia;5791285 said:Plap Star;5791262 said:its crazy how niggas say gucci mane is wack then in the same breath say odb is a legend
cmon b
even tho i agree that now, gucci mane aint really shit, but his old shit tho........
its just trap nigga gospel, we like it cause we can relate to it
yall aint gon relate to it up north cause its a totally different vibe up there
yall like dark and dirty shit cause up north its dark and dirty and fast livin, everybody close together like rats
down south everybody got yards and shit, its sunny outside, we can sit in the trap all day, our fast livin is not as fast as ny
we happy cause we livin in paradise, when you compare it to up north, so we make happy music
look at most of wu tang videos, these niggas in alleys and shit around barrels of fire
now look at southern videos around that same time, we havin cookouts and car shows with bitches dancing
nigga we like to party and our music reflects that
This is so not true. All yall Greats make "Dark" Music.... UGK, Ghetto Boys, 8Ball MJG, Outkast shit the best music that came from the south was from a group called the DUNGEON Family. Aint shit Paradise Like about a Dungeon.
Jamaica;5791283 said:KingJamal;5791263 said:Any nigga who listens to Papoose can't tell me shit
Bucket Nekkit lmaooo
The difference is I called him out for making wack shit like that. While y'all give passes for the shit southern rappers put out.
Plap Star;5791297 said:Gen. Stasia;5791285 said:Plap Star;5791262 said:its crazy how niggas say gucci mane is wack then in the same breath say odb is a legend
cmon b
even tho i agree that now, gucci mane aint really shit, but his old shit tho........
its just trap nigga gospel, we like it cause we can relate to it
yall aint gon relate to it up north cause its a totally different vibe up there
yall like dark and dirty shit cause up north its dark and dirty and fast livin, everybody close together like rats
down south everybody got yards and shit, its sunny outside, we can sit in the trap all day, our fast livin is not as fast as ny
we happy cause we livin in paradise, when you compare it to up north, so we make happy music
look at most of wu tang videos, these niggas in alleys and shit around barrels of fire
now look at southern videos around that same time, we havin cookouts and car shows with bitches dancing
nigga we like to party and our music reflects that
This is so not true. All yall Greats make "Dark" Music.... UGK, Ghetto Boys, 8Ball MJG, Outkast shit the best music that came from the south was from a group called the DUNGEON Family. Aint shit Paradise Like about a Dungeon.
but on them same albums you would hear dark shit you would hear light shit
as compared to most ny albums where the album has almost the same beat and same vibe on every song
themadlionsfan;5791186 said:Jamaica;5791139 said:These niggas trying to rewrite the rules on emcees. You can enjoy the wack shit all y'all want but please don't sit there and say that being wack is okay just as long as the beat is banging.
this is something southern listeners don't understand or won't admit.....since when in the history of Hip Hop is a rapper considered good by simply having bangin beats?....and this is one of the things that led to the current state of Hip Hop...rappers getting a pass because they spit real shit, get the bitches twerking or they are getting money...and are not held accountable and givin a pass for their wackness....
Gen. Stasia;5791308 said:Plap Star;5791297 said:Gen. Stasia;5791285 said:Plap Star;5791262 said:its crazy how niggas say gucci mane is wack then in the same breath say odb is a legend
cmon b
even tho i agree that now, gucci mane aint really shit, but his old shit tho........
its just trap nigga gospel, we like it cause we can relate to it
yall aint gon relate to it up north cause its a totally different vibe up there
yall like dark and dirty shit cause up north its dark and dirty and fast livin, everybody close together like rats
down south everybody got yards and shit, its sunny outside, we can sit in the trap all day, our fast livin is not as fast as ny
we happy cause we livin in paradise, when you compare it to up north, so we make happy music
look at most of wu tang videos, these niggas in alleys and shit around barrels of fire
now look at southern videos around that same time, we havin cookouts and car shows with bitches dancing
nigga we like to party and our music reflects that
This is so not true. All yall Greats make "Dark" Music.... UGK, Ghetto Boys, 8Ball MJG, Outkast shit the best music that came from the south was from a group called the DUNGEON Family. Aint shit Paradise Like about a Dungeon.
but on them same albums you would hear dark shit you would hear light shit
as compared to most ny albums where the album has almost the same beat and same vibe on every song
This is so not true either. If u hear a album with the same vibe through out its because Majority of the time its a conceptual album. And the whole "Formatted Album" came from Biggie with Ready to die where its standard to have a Party Track, Chick Song, Street Song, Anthem type song. Before it was just make the songs u feel like making and put it out to the public.
BackInWhite;5791318 said:mc hammer and vanilla ice wasn't taken seriously?!
7x platinum vanilla ice and $30 million a year mc hammer?
shut the fuck up, nigga
just shut the fuck up
niggas in here tryna rewrite history like wack rap started in the south
to be quite honest with you niggas like nwa or ll cool j or big daddy kane wasn't complex lyrically AT ALL
if them niggas came out today with the shit they was sayin then they'd be chief keef status