Why Did PAC Beef With NAS and JAY?

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It was simple, Jay Z got it cause of "Brooklyn's Finest", say what you want about that line either it was good or not, it was enough to piss Pac off. It was the only time Biggie called Pac out by name. It is ironic Pac said about Jay Z "He broke and I smoke daily". Cleaver line only if Jay Z did not become one of the richest rappers in hip hop history. As for NaS, Pac just threw him in the Eastcoast bunch. He tried to seperate him from Biggie and Jay Z but it didn't happen cause of "The Message". No matter how NaS tries to spin it the song was a Biggie, Pac and Jay Z diss. NaS was trying to go for the crown with that song. Pac was furious with the "Fake Thug, No Love" line that it was all out war with NaS. Pac was one of the 1st to call out NaS for taking Rakim's lyrical style and running with it. At the end of the day Pac dissed damn near everyone on the Eastcoast it's just funny to look back at it cause he tried to make it like he was only going afer Biggie but it was clear he had an issue with a lot of rappers on the East.
 
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rapmastermind;1147319 said:
It was simple, Jay Z got it cause of "Brooklyn's Finest", say what you want about that line either it was good or not, it was enough to piss Pac off. It was the only time Biggie called Pac out by name. It is ironic Pac said about Jay Z "He broke and I smoke daily". Cleaver line only if Jay Z did not become one of the richest rappers in hip hop history. As for NaS, Pac just threw him in the Eastcoast bunch. He tried to seperate him from Biggie and Jay Z but it didn't happen cause of "The Message". No matter how NaS tries to spin it the song was a Biggie, Pac and Jay Z diss. NaS was trying to go for the crown with that song. Pac was furious with the "Fake Thug, No Love" line that it was all out war with NaS. Pac was one of the 1st to call out NaS for taking Rakim's lyrical style and running with it. At the end of the day Pac dissed damn near everyone on the Eastcoast it's just funny to look back at it cause he tried to make it like he was only going afer Biggie but it was clear he had an issue with a lot of rappers on the East.

well @ that time n 96 j was broke compared 2 tupac & if pac was still alive jigga would not b n da position hez n now cuz when pac said FUKK JAY-Z & nobody brought RD until 2 yrz after 2pac died...& ya wrong about pac goin @ da whole eastcoast cuz da majority of da OUTLAWZ was from da EASTCOAST hell pac was from da east thatz y he was rockin TIMZ n da HIT EM UP video...tupac made it very clear that he was goin after biggie & bad boy & who eva want'd 2 side wit them & just so u know big & bad boy didnt rep da whole eastcoast thatz y pac was droppin 1NATION!
 
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gee757;1147354 said:
well @ that time n 96 j was broke compared 2 tupac & if pac was still alive jigga would not b n da position hez n now cuz when pac said FUKK JAY-Z & nobody brought RD until 2 yrz after 2pac died...& ya wrong about pac goin @ da whole eastcoast cuz da majority of da OUTLAWZ was from da EASTCOAST hell pac was from da east thatz y he was rockin TIMZ n da HIT EM UP video...tupac made it very clear that he was goin after biggie & bad boy & who eva want'd 2 side wit them & just so u know big & bad boy didnt rep da whole eastcoast thatz y pac was droppin 1NATION!

More rappers and producers on the East supported Biggie than that were against him which is clear when you look at the "Life After Death" producer list which features some of the most popular and accliamed Eastcoast producers ever. Yes Jay didn't have this type of money in 96 but he was far from broke. And Pac did get at a lot of people from the East. I mean Fugees Really Pac, Fugees?. He was wilin out before he died.
 
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rapmastermind;1147371 said:
More rappers and producers on the East supported Biggie than that were against him which is clear when you look at the "Life After Death" producer list which features some of the most popular and accliamed Eastcoast producers ever. Yes Jay didn't have this type of money in 96 but he was far from broke. And Pac did get at a lot of people from the East. I mean Fugees Really Pac, Fugees?. He was wilin out before he died.

ok but tupac still had riderz n BROOKLYN & QUEENZ & all ova ny & da proof was da 1NATION album biggie couldnt make no album like that pac was fuukin wit da wu , bbc , greg nyce , red man , treach imean da eastcoast list goes on...& tupac got @ da fugeez cuz they was talkin shit like LL!
 
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gee757;1147388 said:
ok but tupac still had riderz n BROOKLYN & QUEENZ & all ova ny & da proof was da 1NATION album biggie couldnt make no album like that pac was fuukin wit da wu , bbc , greg nyce , red man , treach imean da eastcoast list goes on...& tupac got @ da fugeez cuz they was talkin shit like LL!

true..............
 
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On the orginal version of Hit 'Em up Pac says "Fuck Jay-Z" at the end but on the retail version it is censored.
 
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Tree Fiddy;1144618 said:
I still don't know the details to this story.

Only thing I know is Pac thought Nas was referring to him in "Fake thug, no love, you get the slug . . ."

And with Jay-Z, I know of no stories involving both him and Pac in the same vicinity.

Any LEGIT answers?

Them lil nikkaz got their NY feelings hurt.
 
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MR.CJ;1147950 said:
he did...........

It's crazy cause the Fugees and the Outlawz where from the same area. The Outlawz (East Orange, NJ) and the Outlawz (South Orange, NJ) they might have had some mutual friends. They might have been able to step in and squash it.
 
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Logic First;1147971 said:
Them lil nikkaz got their NY feelings hurt.

On the Firm's Affirmative Action (Remix) Nas disses B.I.G. with "More cake, I take the crown off the so-called king of the town

And lock it down".
 
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Llahsram;1147896 said:
On the orginal version of Hit 'Em up Pac says "Fuck Jay-Z" at the end but on the retail version it is censored.

I've heard that & said it another thread but niggas didnt believe. At the end when he was spazzin niggas there is a short silence u hear and thats supposedly where he said it. Allegedly Hussein Fatal convinced him to take it out b/c at that point Jay been nuetral in the east/west rivalry
 
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Llahsram;1148040 said:
It's crazy cause the Fugees and the Outlawz where from the same area. The Outlawz (East Orange, NJ) and the Outlawz (South Orange, NJ) they might have had some mutual friends. They might have been able to step in and squash it.

what? lol!!!!!!!
 
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bull6599;1148080 said:
Allegedly Hussein Fatal convinced him to take it out b/c at that point Jay been nuetral in the east/west rivalry

y do people say this?? wherr is da proof???
 
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MR.CJ;1148105 said:
what? lol!!!!!!!

On the Dave Chapelle Block party Lauryn Hill said that they (Pras, Wyclef, and Lauryn) where from South Orange, NJ. And somebody on Youtube posted the news report of Yaki Khadfi's death and they said the Outlawz was from East Orange, NJ.

 
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bull6599;1148080 said:
I've heard that & said it another thread but niggas didnt believe. At the end when he was spazzin niggas there is a short silence u hear and thats supposedly where he said it. Allegedly Hussein Fatal convinced him to take it out b/c at that point Jay been nuetral in the east/west rivalry

This is true but I swear I read it in an interview with Hussein but I don't know where it is.
 
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Llahsram;1148173 said:
This is the version where Pac disses Jay-Z on Hit' Em Up at 6:01


VINDICATION LOL!!! Props my nigga. I knew I heard that shit somewhere I just couldnt remember where.
 
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so fatal did tell pac to take it out well i'll be damed

man pac should have left it in, jay might of been mob deep status now
 
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