Why are the vast majority of all hip-hop haters centralized on the east coast??????

[thesynthesis]

nyc has not got one single rapper on the caliber of jay and nas

forreal without jay and nas what do you have left?

all they have is a bunch of has beens and flops

juelz santana, nigga wants to be a westcoast gangbanga

fab, nearing 40

dipset had its day

etc...

like who have eastcoast got? niggas better stay collabin with the south to stay somewhat relvant

thank rick ross for putting styles p and jay on his songs and letting diddy manage him....

thank j cole and j electronica for keepin roc nation buzzin....

diddy, jayz , all them record labels aint fuckin with no ny york niggas forreal

if yall niggas stopped hating and let go of the late 90's yall might have some buzz or a movement

 

[rapmastermind]

I co-sign this post..and I'm from the South. I have a high standard when it comes to Hip Hop myself. That's what wrong with the peeps down here..afraid to call out trash knowing that's exactly what it is.

Because the South got the rawest deal in Hip Hop History (I mean nobody would play southern Videos or music, it was sad what happen to the South in Hip Hop History). I wasn't even mad when they finally got some shine this decade. What made me mad was NYC coined the term "Hater", it was something that blew up during the East/West Beef. Biggie and Puff made it a NYC thing when it came to be "Hated On" yet other regions embraced the term and filpped it on NYC and said, "No It's you guys that are the haters".

I've lived in NYC for years now but like I said, I was born in the South, and Lived in the South, as well as out West. I've been to the Midwest but never lived there. So from my experiences I can say that yes NYC does have a complex cause again Hip Hop was born there so there is a sense of entitlement. The south are like the "Middle" Child of the Hip Hop family so they always cry out for attention even if the music is very subpar. The Midwest is the baby of the family. Though it's the least reconized region we still overall show it love, Big had Bone on his album, Jay put on KanYe West etc. The West was the only powerhouse region that messed with the East directly.

But again out of all the regions, the South is the worst at calling out the wack artist. They fall back on the "Stop Hating" ideals established in the East to give these weak artist pass after pass. I understand that Hip Hop is different in every region and what's wack to someone in NYC may be Classic to someone in the South. Again I have Southern ties so I never hated on the South but I cannot cosign a lot of the Hip Hop in the South. It's really that bad and again my Southern Brothers need to stop trying to give that stuff passes. Out of all the regions though, The South and Midwest has the most open arms. NYC and the West really felt they ruled everyone.

 

[tri3w]

from the east....now lets gets this straight nwa, death row tupac etc all got love back east.....not everyone is going to like they shyt but them cats got love...if u listen to some eastcoast shyt in the mid 90's west cost slang pops up so if this cats wont getting love how did this happen....outkast really didnt get love until the second album....nelly was all over hot 97 so somebody was liking that shyt same with the south.....not everybody gonna like it homie it aint hating if you just dont like something......

idk y people dont understand this...........Cube was comin out to NY Recording his album, usin East Coast beats...........Kurprt is From philly, Got luv from NY and Was Claimed by LA..........all the other shit was bullshit

 

[rapmastermind]

idk y people dont understand this...........Cube was comin out to NY Recording his album, usin East Coast beats...........Kurprt is From philly, Got luv from NY and Was Claimed by LA..........all the other shit was bullshit

Exactly, I think this "NYC hated everyone" is overblown. NYC had love for Pac, he was born in NYC. Of course New York rode with Biggie, I mean that's a given but we still had and still have love for Tupac. NYC liked N.W.A, Dr Dre and Snoop. As Well as Warren G. Of course NYC wasn't happy with the Dogg Pound Video with Snoop so they lost some points with that. Now NYC has been very critical of the South. We warmed up to Outkast after ATLiens dropped. Master P didn't get much love from NYC. Jay Z was on the "Ha" remix so the South got a little love in the late 90's from NYC. So again, it's not a matter of NYC hating everyone, it's a matter of NYC has again a very high standard for Hip Hop. And guess what, that won't change.

 

[thesynthesis]

Exactly, I think this "NYC hated everyone" is overblown. NYC had love for Pac, he was born in NYC. Of course New York rode with Biggie, I mean that's a given but we still had and still have love for Tupac. NYC liked N.W.A, Dr Dre and Snoop. As Well as Warren G. Of course NYC wasn't happy with the Dogg Pound Video with Snoop so they lost some points with that. Now NYC has been very critical of the South. We warmed up to Outkast after ATLiens dropped. Master P didn't get much love from NYC. Jay Z was on the "Ha" remix so the South got a little love in the late 90's from NYC. So again, it's not a matter of NYC hating everyone, it's a matter of NYC has again a very high standard for Hip Hop. And guess what, that won't change.

high standards yet they gave no luv to getto boys or face,

 

[king of nyc]

Because niggas is fuckin up what they created

what he said

 

[dholt23]

how you know that

 

[skpjr78]

You seem angry...

When Flava-Flav's legacy is perused years from now people will mock him for his coonish antics and praise him for being a member of one of Hiphops greatest and socially conscious groups...not many artists are fortunate to have something that redeemable to off-set their misdeeds.

When you speak negatively about Bad Boy do you include Young Joc and his Grammy nominated songs with them?? What about Young Jeezy when he was signed to Bad-Boy South??

Was Ol Dirty Bastards behavior worse than C-Murda murdering a black child??

Was "Flava of Love" any worse than 3-6 Mafias "Hollyhood" or Plies "Goonette" Lukes "Parental Advisory" or the Ying Yang twins on "Cribs"??

You called Wu-tang "washed-up" as if Geto Boyz has a buzz other than Willie Dee going to prison.

Its odd hearing a poster talk about "commercial-ass-rappers" when LiL Wayne and Young Money are the most commercial brand in HipHop.

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any credibility that flavor flav had he smoked away a loooong time ago. any nigga who tries to excuse this coon or somehow reduce his level of cooning is a coon himself. griff washed his hands of flav decades ago and chuck d knows he is a damn fool/crackhead. for you to somewhat justify the flava flav coon show highlights ur ignorance, hypocriscy, and all out stupidity.

young joc was trash. the only ppl i saw bumping that shit was east coast niggas who were trying to push their overrated, white folks approved, commercialized,bulshit into the south. bad boy south was in business for what 2 weeks?!? i wish puff would do us all a favor and shut down bad boy records as a whole. please put that old injured dog out of its misery. they havent been relevent since '97.

as far as ol' dirty bastard he was a perment black eye on the image our ppl. is he worse than c-murder yes, no, maybe who cares. was shyne worse than c murder when he shot an unarmed woman in the face just to impress puff? when it was all said and done puff and shyne had seperate trials, seperate lawyers, and shyne got 10 years b/c he wanted 2 imnpress another nigga who forgot his name 2 weeks later. i guess shooting an unarmed woman in a club to impress a nigga named puffy is gangsta in nyc. then when u combine that with niggas like dmx aka pookeythat doesnt leave you east coast haters with much of a leg to stand on. we can do this all day long.

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[rapmastermind]

high standards yet they gave no luv to getto boys or face,

Yes they got a raw deal from NY, Jay ended up working with Face a lot and NY loved "Mind playing tricks"

"Is My Mind playing tricks, like scarface and bushwick, Wille D having Nightmares of Girls Killing me" - Biggie

 

[thesynthesis]

if it werent for the south nobody minus jay wud be selling record for the last 5 + years

there wud be no hip hop right now, itd be dead...

 

[dholt23]

mofos hating asses

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

1st whoever said the South or where ever was more of a "Melting Pot" than NYC is lying. NYC has the most diversity in one place than anywhere in the U.S. I can get on a train and the whole joint looks like the united nations. Queens is the most diverse place in America as far as the most cultures in one place. NYC you can walk down the street and hear tons of different languages. Yes Cali has a strong Latino population but so does NYC. We have it all here. I've lived in the South and it's still to much "Black/White" issues even now after all these years. I've been out West also. Never really been to the midwest.

The bottom line some of you can call NYC haters or whatever but without New York, Hip Hop wouldn't be where it is today on a global scale. NYC has it's wack rappers just like anyone else, but NYC's best rappers and groups pretty much outshine ever region in Hip Hop History. So again, don't be mad and upset NYC has high standards of Hip Hop. The creators of the genre should have high standards. I'm not a South Hater, I was born in the south and think they got the rawest deal out of any region, but the level of trash Hip Hop coming out of the South surpasses any region and most of the time my southern brothers get defensive and defend that mess instead of calling it out. Say what you want but NYC calls out it's garbage. So it's not like we just call out other regions, NYC rappers have to go through so much to even get respected on their own city.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City

New York is the most populous city in the United States, and the center of the New York metropolitan area, which is one of the most populous metropolitan areas in the world. A leading global city, New York exerts a powerful influence over global commerce, finance, media, culture, art, fashion, research, education, and entertainment. As host of the United Nations Headquarters, it is also an important center for international affairs. The city is often referred to as New York City or the City of New York to distinguish it from the state of New York, of which it is a part.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queens

In Queen these neighborhoods comprise the most diverse county in the United States.[57] Several of these neighborhoods are home to a diverse mix of many different ethnicities. In Queens there are over 150 Languages that are spoken which is a record for the United States for one place. In Queens, the black population earns more than whites on average.[72] Many of these African Americans live in quiet, middle class suburban neighborhoods near the Nassau County border, such as Laurelton and Cambria Heights which have large black populations whose family income is higher than average. Those areas are known for their well kept homes, suburban feel, and low crime rate.

So Black Americans in New York (Queens) make more than Whites and have the most income for Blacks in one place in America. NYC is the mecca, like it or not Hip Hop orgins are there.

As far as being a melting pot it is not while it is true the area is a huge and highly populous mosaic the cultures are fiercely seperate from one another and thus not a melting pot. Example the pueto ricans beef with the dominicans who also beef with the haitians who in turn beef with the jamaicans who cannot stand the italians who hate the irish and the circle of distinct seperations goes on and on through the different cultures and communities but you get the point.

WHile in the South In Chicago and Cali it seems everyone assimilates more into one culture, We have Teriyaki Burger and Taco Shops out here can get Greek Mexican Hybrid Dishes or irish Spanish mixed meals. For the most part everyone mixes together based on currency rather then ethnicity. In Raleigh I lived in apartments where Their were haitians Jamaicans Domincans Puerto Ricans Koreans Whites and Greeks Lived in large Numbers beause we were all basically Lower Middle Class.

From what I have seen and heard from NewYorkers shit is extremely Polarized and seperate and the only thing you kats tend to share as far a culture is your Love for being New yorkers and the seperations you Kats have kept for generations...

 

[dholt23]

dam thats too much reading^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[tri3w]

Exactly, I think this "NYC hated everyone" is overblown. NYC had love for Pac, he was born in NYC. Of course New York rode with Biggie, I mean that's a given but we still had and still have love for Tupac. NYC liked N.W.A, Dr Dre and Snoop. As Well as Warren G. Of course NYC wasn't happy with the Dogg Pound Video with Snoop so they lost some points with that. Now NYC has been very critical of the South. We warmed up to Outkast after ATLiens dropped. Master P didn't get much love from NYC. Jay Z was on the "Ha" remix so the South got a ltitle love in the late 90's from NYC. So again, it's not a matter of NYC hating everyone, it's a matter of NYC has again a very high standard for Hip Hop. And guess what, that won't change.

it was Bullshit..........East knew wat it was with the West, We respected the West, they Have Just as many Classic as the East...........The reason y the SOuht is kinda dealt wit hard is because they keep supportin their wack Artisit, somehting that neither Coast Really did

 

[rapmastermind]

As far as being a melting pot it is not while it is true the area is a huge and highly populous mosaic the cultures are fiercely seperate from one another and thus not a melting pot. Example the pueto ricans beef with the dominicans who also beef with the haitians who in turn beef with the jamaicans who cannot stand the italians who hate the irish and the circle of distinct seperations goes on and on through the different cultures and communities but you get the point. WHile in the South In Chicago and Cali it seems everyone assimilates more into the culture We have Teriyaki Burger and Taco Shops out here can get Greek Mexican Hybrid Dishes or irish Spanish mixed meals. For the most part everyone mixes together based on currency rather then ethnicity. In Raleigh I lived in apartments where Their were haitians Jamaicans Domincans Puerto Ricans Koreans Whites and Greeks Lived in large Numbers beause we were all basically Lower Middle Class. From what I have scene and heard from NewYorkers shot is extremely Polarized and seperate and the only thing you kats tend to share as far a culture is your Love for being New yorkers and the seperations you Kats have kept for generations...

Oh yea, it was your comment about the melting pot thing. My point isn't that NYC is the only diverse place in America. That would be a reach, there is diversity all over America cause America in genenral is the melting pot in the world. But as far as one place, I'd agrue NYC is the most diverse. I can eat food from every region and country in the world in NYC, I really can't say that about anywhere else in the U.S. Cali Latino and Asian population may be more extensive than NYC, true, but NYC had just so many different culture groups in one place it has to take th cake. Again I've lived in the South and out in Cali for awhile so I've been able to compare.

NYC you feel like you are in a different country everyday depending on where you are in the city. There are parts of Queens that I feel like I'm in Asia or the middle East as well as South America. The diversity is insane. Now just because of this diversity doesn't mean NYC isn't racist or have racism. Most of these cultures live amongst themselves in their own neighborhoods. But the fact is we all live amongst each other, again just ride any train in New York on your tipical day and the train will look like the United Nations, I don't think anywhere can really truly cliam that.

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Because the South got the rawest deal in Hip Hop History (I mean nobody would play southern Videos or music, it was sad what happen to the South in Hip Hop History). I wasn't even mad when they finally got some shine this decade. What made me mad was NYC coined the term "Hater", it was something that blew up during the East/West Beef. Biggie and Puff made it a NYC thing when it came to be "Hated On" yet other regions embraced the term and filpped it on NYC and said, "No It's you guys that are the haters".

I've lived in NYC for years now but like I said, I was born in the South, and Lived in the South, as well as out West. I've been to the Midwest but never lived there. So from my experiences I can say that yes NYC does have a complex cause again Hip Hop was born there so there is a sense of entitlement. The south are like the "Middle" Child of the Hip Hop family so they always cry out for attention even if the music is very subpar. The Midwest is the baby of the family. Though it's the least reconized region we still overall show it love, Big had Bone on his album, Jay put on KanYe West etc. The West was the only powerhouse region that messed with the East directly.

But again out of all the regions, the South is the worst at calling out the wack artist. They fall back on the "Stop Hating" ideals established in the East to give these weak artist pass after pass. I understand that Hip Hop is different in every region and what's wack to someone in NYC may be Classic to someone in the South. Again I have Southern ties so I never hated on the South but I cannot cosign a lot of the Hip Hop in the South. It's really that bad and again my Southern Brothers need to stop trying to give that stuff passes. Out of all the regions though, The South and Midwest has the most open arms. NYC and the West really felt they ruled everyone.

Co-sign again especially on the bold...I caught plenty of flack from niggas because when Lil Jon and The Eastside Boys, Young Joc, Ying Yang Twins, D4L, Dem Franchise Boys, etc..at the time of the Southern explosion I was one of the few screaming out "Garbage...that shit is beyond wack!"...and niggas was looking at me like "why the fuck you hating on the Southern artists?! You from here! But you rather bump these East Coast niggas shit"...on some dumb-out ignorant shit. But what was so funny about it, I was always bumping Eightball & MJG, UGK, Scarface, T.I with my Nas, Biggie, Jay-Z, Wu-Tang Clan etc...

 

[skpjr78]

ppl laughed wehn they heard meth and the wu talking down on wacka. and for the record i agree that wacka is wack. but meth and the wu would have had way more credibility if they would have said the same shit to ol' dirty. dude was a coon and a clown. ol' dirty was 1,000 times worse than wacka. im from atl and i cant name 3 wacka flacka songs. i can name dozens of ol' dirty bastard songs and i with all of the videos i cant forget the clown ass coon images of him that were beemed all over the world.

its funny when this nigga was making a fool of us all ny niggas and the wu in particular didnt say shit. hypocrites man. now you got meth and these other old niggas talkin shit. i would have takin these guys way more serious if they had stopped this shit in its tracks 15 years ago. keep it real man yall niggas are hypocrites and haters.

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[Pond Scum]

i think the question really is why do you bums spend so much time hating on new york and making up stories about how we feel about your music.

 

[Pond Scum]

Yes they got a raw deal from NY, Jay ended up working with Face a lot and NY loved "Mind playing tricks"

"Is My Mind playing tricks, like scarface and bushwick, Wille D having Nightmares of Girls Killing me" - Biggie

not to mention geto boys featured on kool g rap live and let die, jay putting on ugk, and also hopping on the remix to "ha"

these people are so blinded by their hate of new york they make up scenarios in their heads about how ny rappers snub them

how come people not from ny are so insecure about what ny rappers think about them?

 

[Wishbone Jones]

TEXAS>>>any state period