Mumo X;3474959 said:Freeman never had Cam's buzz. He wuz a project.
that doesn't mean he came into a worse situation. since he was a 'project' it was probably better seeing as how he diidn't have the expectations
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Mumo X;3474959 said:Freeman never had Cam's buzz. He wuz a project.
Will Munny;3475140 said:Little early for these kind of debates... or maybe its the perfect time for them.
matt-;3475269 said:Cam had a top
WR and a Top TE and two great running backs to throw to. He's got
weapons
matt-;3475018 said:Freeman is already on pace to have fewer touchdowns and more int's than he had last year so maybe last year was something we wont see again. and maybe the job Cam has done through these first four games is something he won't be able to repeat for the rest of the season. maybe the team runs the ball more, maybe he throws for less yards from here on out. its all up in the air. the performances by either one of these guys could go in the opposite direction at any point. its almost impossible to predict, but i think its safe to say that Cam Newton is obviously the best quarterback of the two and will be forever
PPLSIntiative;3475229 said:I think they'll both have illustrious careers. Cam may have the slight advantage because of his tutelage under the great Warren Moon. However both are proven on the collegiate level, Freeman is proving himself in Tampa, and Cam when he get's some receivers will be overall one of the best QBs to ever play, barring any major injuries of course. When it's said and done I think both QBs should they continue on their current trajectory will be mentioned with the likes of Brady, Peyton, Palmer, and by the time their careers end they just might pass them into that Elway, Namath, Montana, Moon stratosphere.
PPLSIntiative;3475229 said:I think they'll both have illustrious careers. Cam may have the slight advantage because of his tutelage under the great Warren Moon. However both are proven on the collegiate level, Freeman is proving himself in Tampa, and Cam when he get's some receivers will be overall one of the best QBs to ever play, barring any major injuries of course. When it's said and done I think both QBs should they continue on their current trajectory will be mentioned with the likes of Brady, Peyton, Palmer, and by the time their careers end they just might pass them into that Elway, Namath, Montana, Moon stratosphere.
Mumo X;3475562 said:Freeman starts slowly and finishes strongly. Jus watch. And Cam might take a step backwards next year when Defenses adjust....... And why arent dudes in here talkn bout the "clutch" factor? Cam may end up havin passed for more yards than Freeman but the latter wil win more rings and have a better career.....When Bucs get a Steve Smith caliber WR, then we'll talk.
joeyfkncrakk;3477481 said:If you wanna factor in Cam at Auburn he was probably the most Clutch QB in all of football being played last year... He had all types of comebacks not just 4th quarter drives... he willed Auburn to comeback from deep defecits damn near every week when it wasnt a comeback... and he only played there 1 year, he changed the whole culture immediately just like he is doing at Carolina this year... He has kept the Panthers in every game this year, playing the Packers, Patriots, Bears... I know Cam would have put damage to the Colts unlike Ffreeman who plays down to every teams competition... I like Freeman's heart though on that 3rd down run where he power dove for the 1st, that was a man's play... but I like Cam who power dives for TD's... they both are beast, I just like Cam Newton's whole aura as a qb
PPLSIntiative;3475229 said:I think they'll both have illustrious careers. Cam may have the slight advantage because of his tutelage under the great Warren Moon. However both are proven on the collegiate level, Freeman is proving himself in Tampa, and Cam when he get's some receivers will be overall one of the best QBs to ever play, barring any major injuries of course. When it's said and done I think both QBs should they continue on their current trajectory will be mentioned with the likes of Brady, Peyton, Palmer, and by the time their careers end they just might pass them into that Elway, Namath, Montana, Moon stratosphere.
KeepOnPushing;3479375 said:and im'a go out on a limb here and say Cam Newton , here's why......this off season the panthers showed me they're not scared to help cam out weapons wise, and also keep there core veterans around them and spent money, was most of it on players they already had? yes.....but they spent it
the Bucs were one of the teams who had the most to work with in the NFL money wise and really could have hit the market and they did nothing, think all they did was pick up a few average players and over spend for a damn punter.....if they gonna be cheap then Josh Freeman will never make it to as far as he can...
i can see the Panthers in 2 years being just as good as the bucs if not better once they add a few more pieces in the right places, and Freeman is not the passer Cam is, Freeman is good but Cam can fuckin' air that thing out , not saying Freeman aint solid but Cam upside is fuckin scary..
KeepOnPushing;3479375 said:and im'a go out on a limb here and say Cam Newton , here's why......this off season the panthers showed me they're not scared to help cam out weapons wise, and also keep there core veterans around them and spent money, was most of it on players they already had? yes.....but they spent it
the Bucs were one of the teams who had the most to work with in the NFL money wise and really could have hit the market and they did nothing, think all they did was pick up a few average players and over spend for a damn punter.....if they gonna be cheap then Josh Freeman will never make it to as far as he can...
i can see the Panthers in 2 years being just as good as the bucs if not better once they add a few more pieces in the right places, and Freeman is not the passer Cam is, Freeman is good but Cam can fuckin' air that thing out , not saying Freeman aint solid but Cam upside is fuckin scary..